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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 10:18 PM Original message |
Overpopulation and Terrorism: Rats in a Cage |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Human rats.....interesting concept.... |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 10:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. In the 1970s they did an experiment |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. "Population, Evolution and Birth Control," by Garrett Hardin is |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I think we are being reduced to "rat-like" behavior due to the |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 06:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
58. On the other hand, I spend a lot of time in the densely populated Tokyo |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think pollution/climate change/overpopulation |
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brokensymmetry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. If you like Collapse - you need to read |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. I agree with you. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 09:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
55. The example of Tikopia is very hopeful, IMO |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. I think one of the worlds problems |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think it a problem, but I think what is the bigger problem |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Not sure what you mean - could you explain further? |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 01:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. What part? |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. I am of the mind that population/resource control needs to be |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. I agree |
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rawtribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-05 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. If you loved |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. Are you sure about this? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
11. This, of course, is nonsense |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
12. the poor outnumber the rich by 7:1 |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 02:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Underproduction |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. eh? |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Underproduction of goods/services |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Both - the result is misery for those that don't have ACCESS |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 02:41 AM Original message |
Start reading Garrett Hardin |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
14. Start reading Garrett Hardin |
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julianer (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
15. I completely disagree |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Come, pull your head out of the sand |
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julianer (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Exactly |
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Hope springs eternal (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Bullshit: NYC has crime rate comparable to countryside and dropping |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Do you even live in NYC? |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Would you at least admit that during rush-hour it's packed with |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. I agree with julianer |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. There are two separate problems - Unfair distribution of resources |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. For god's sake, read between the lines - my intent was not to |
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julianer (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 05:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
57. Well any study that |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
17. I posted about this very experiment three days ago |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
23. Over the years, I have traveled many times to India, China,many other |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. However, it's not just about wealth and food - |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. This portrait of India is outdated overcome by many developments there. |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Hardin a "know nothing"? |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. He may be loaded with credentials but he can be a know nothing when it |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
25. Selective use of fact. |
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brokensymmetry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
28. Excellent post. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
31. Hogwash. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
38. I find it unbelievable that so many discount overpopulation |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Fortunately for all of us, the majority of the world does not live like |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. "Overpopulation is actually......" |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Six billion miracles is enough! |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I do not accept the idea that human beings are a plague upon the earth. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. I admire your optimism, although I don't share it. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
43. Excellent video resource: Bartlett, "Arithmetic, Population, & Energy" |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. "To anyone who has a mental/emotional barrier to the concept of "finite" |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. It is hardly denial when ordinary people living ordinary lives with |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Yes, I agree with making people's lives better in these countries |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I agree. It is our moral responsibility to see countries like India and |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Because Shanghai is comparatively rich-- |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Think I should introduce KlatooBNIKto to 'Peak Oil '? Naaah. |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 06:45 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. FYI, India and China hold more than 40% of the world's population and yet, |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Species Extinctions and Habitat Destruction in India |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Top 4 for mammal extinctions; 1. Indonesia, 2. India, 3. Brazil, 4. China |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. The biggest mammal extinctions in India and China occurred when |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-05 02:43 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Link for that statement? n/t |
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agincourt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
46. Most of our troubles go back to overpopulation, |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Movies like "ZPG" & "Solent Green" from the 1970's were based on |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
50. Yet there is a statistical correlation |
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Theres-a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
52. Thanks for posting this! |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
62. Global Extinction Crises Escalates |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
64. I don't think overpopulation is the problem |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
66. Rats? Cages? The world is a vampire, sent to drain.... |
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