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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:13 AM
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WHEN did men of the cloth become media whores?
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 04:13 AM by Bluebear
Contact: Rev. Rob Schenck, 703-447-7686; Dane Rose, 202-546-8329 ext. 106, both of the National Clergy Council

WASHINGTON, June 27 /Christian Wire Service/ -- The Reverend Rob Schenck (pronounced SHANK), president of the National Clergy Council and a principal organizer of large scale Ten Commandments demonstrations in Montgomery, Alabama, during the summer of 2003, will be outside the United States Supreme Court on June 27, to await a decision in two critical Ten Commandments cases.

Rev. Schenck will be joined by the Reverends Kenneth Johnson and Phil Fulton of Adams County, Ohio, defendants in a current Ten Commandments case involving court ordered removal of displays from in front of four public schools there, as well as by Bernard Reese and David New, lawyers in the pending Supreme Court Ten Commandments cases.

The office of public information at the US Supreme Court is reporting that today, Monday, will be the last day the court will file opinions before its summer recess.

Press Conference Details---

When: Today, June 27, at 10 AM

Where: In front of the U.S. Supreme Court

Who: The National Clergy Council's president Rev. Rob Schenck; Reverends Kenneth Johnson and Phil Fulton of Adams County, Ohio, defendants in a current Ten Commandments case involving court ordered removal of displays from in front of four public schools there; Bernard Reese and David New, lawyers in the pending Supreme Court Ten Commandments cases.

Why: Comments on court's decision on the two Ten Commandments display cases.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/ncc0627.htm
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:14 AM
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1. When they decided to ignore the Sermon on the Mount
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:23 AM
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2. The tent shows have been with us since I can recall back to 50's
TV maybe did not have them on as it only had the 3 general stations. ABC, NBC, and CBS. Bet they were all over the radio. Our family had TV back in the late 40's
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:28 AM
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4. I remember when Oral Robersts actually
traveled with a tent and truck. He drew tons of ignorant people and look what a kindom he ended up with. Seriously, I think Men of God have been this way since the beginning.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:26 AM
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3. You will be pleased to know that tax $$ pay for this effort through
the bushtapo's "Faith Based Initiatives" program. This year, over 40 billion in taxpayer money is scheduled to be doled out to Christian churches so they can do the work of the Lord.

To my knowledge, there is no oversight whatsoever into how this money is spent. A litmus of the current political / Christian climate indicates the possibility that taxpayer dollars are buying assault weapons for the KKK.

This should make every American sleep better at night.

The true horror will come when sanity returns to our government, and responsible leaders attempt to remove this windfall from the church. We will be between a dog and its meat.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:37 AM
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5. The oldest con game on earth.....
notice I didn't say the oldest profession, though many of these Christian superstars resemble that profession in multitudinous ways. The religious have been separating people from their money from the first day Caveman Grog saw lightning hit a tree while he was inventing something called "the wheel". When the con men realized the number of people too timid to face reality, taking their money for "protection" from a very vengeful god was easy as pie.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:38 AM
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6. When Jesus Died
Paul, I believe, was the first whore (nothing to do with any church being the whore of Babylon; just Paul perverting Jesus's message).
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:32 AM
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8. If Saul had never become Paul
I do believe Christianity would have been a lot better off.

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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:18 AM
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7. In the 80s
Of course there were always instances before then, Paul of the New Testament being the first example, but it began in earnest in the 80s with Falwell and his immoral minority.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:46 AM
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9. Summer of 1980.
I remember reading at that time in either Newsweek or Time how Jerry Falwell had formed the Christian Coalition and was flexing his political muscle with the Reagan campaign and the latter was warmly responding to the overture. A few weeks later, the newspapers published a story about the minister who said that God does not hear the prayers of Jews. Falwell distanced himself from the minister but did not condemn the statement.

After Falwell tested the waters, Pat Robertson became a force to be reckoned with.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:05 AM
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11. your memory is better than mine
but now that you've jogged my brain a bit I remember that it was the first Reagan campaign that set the latest abomination in motion.

I was a teenager then, but had an overwhelming feeling of dread when Reagan was elected. That was my first gut reaction to politics and I haven't been wrong since!
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:54 AM
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10. Some religious have always spoken out.
But this latest political activism on the Right has an interesting background. Look at the origins of Christian Reconstructionism, and/or Dominionism:

The original and defining text of Reconstructionism is Institutes of Biblical Law, published in 1973 by Rousas John Rushdoony--an 800-page explanation of the Ten Commandments, the Biblical "case law" that derives from them, and their application today. "The only true order," writes Rushdoony, "is founded on Biblical Law.

All law is religious in nature, and every non-Biblical law-order represents an anti-Christian religion." In brief, he continues, "Every law-order is a state of war against the enemies of that order, and all law is a form of warfare."


www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/reconstruct2.html

Is this one of the sources of the "10 Commandments" movement?




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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:06 AM
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12. Thousands of years ago.
"Men of the cloth" have *ALWAYS* been media whores! What did you
expect? They're pedling various made-up truths, *OF COURSE* they're
media whores!

Tesha
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:15 AM
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13. Isn't that the same guy that ditched Graham...
(supposedly) after 20+ yrs because Graham allowed Clinton to speak and joked about Hillary running the country?

Why is it every time I see this NON-christian dude's name I want to pronounce it SKANK not Shank?

As for when did men of the cloth become media whores... umm... that probably would have been when the first news source came out. My SWAG is that it's just getting louder and more apparent as the panic increases (and their $$ base slowly erodes) since the human race is slowly waking up and isn't buying their strident hate mongering bigoted anti-Christian crap as much as they used to.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:21 AM
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14. I can just see a new GOP diversionary tactic
Constitutional amendment to add the 10 Commandments to the Preamble.
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