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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:55 PM
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Proof That lack of Applause at last night Speech was not planned
The conservatives are claiming that the lack of applause at Bush's speech last night was planned or that the troops were order not to applause. That is a lie. Bush and company allocated 40 minutes for the speech last night but due to the lack of interruptions for applause, the speech only ran 28 minutes. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4724156
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Still, the White House had allotted 40 minutes for the remarks. Without the applause that may have been anticipated, Mr. Bush wrapped up in just 28 minutes.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:58 PM
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1. I heard on NBC Nightly News....
that the first applause was initiated by one of craphead's staffers. The soldiers could not applaud when he entered the room because they were standing at attention...and not allowed to move.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:00 PM
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3. I wonder if the WH had to send down applause orders
:rofl:

I wish some of those guys heckled him on live TV---unfortunately, they could face a courts martial on orders of the C-in-C if they did that
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:06 PM
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5. ABC's Terry Moran reported that, too. n/t
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:10 PM
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9. The soldiers were seated. They did not want to applaud the Fraud
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:51 PM
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28. You can be seated and at attention at the same time
:shrug: Don't know if that was the case here or not though.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:15 PM
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17. Craphead?
Why don't you quit mincing words and say what you really think, auntie?
The Professor

P.S. - Long time, no talk.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:20 PM
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18. Shithead????
Hi Professor!

:hi:
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:21 PM
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19. Still A Little Too Subtle, I Think
Hope to see everyone soon. In Philly this week. Be back tomorrow evening. Worked 3 14 hour days this week. I'm burnt.

The Professor
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:26 PM
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21. I can imagine....
antiwarwarrior is masterminding a get-together for Sunday, July 10 at Jimmy's Woodlawn Tap. There is a thread that has sort of disappeared in the Illinois forum.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:58 PM
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2. That is hilarious
That is even better than when the soldiers heckled Rumsfeld.

Bush must have felt like a real ass waiting for everyone to cheer for him. I wonder if these guys had been in a nasty part of Iraq and are no longer in the mood to cheer for someone who got their buddies killed :shrug:
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:05 AM
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33. I'm sure they were hoping for good news.
The fact they went out of his way to have this at a military base I'm sure possibly set them up to think he was going to give them a timetable. "Six months and we're out!!" would have gotten him his Hooah!'s.

Instead, our President told them that they were being killed and it was "worth it."
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:00 PM
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4. on Democracy Now, you could hear pauses when he expected
applause--and instead got an uncomfortable silence.

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:09 PM
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7. Hehehehe
I love it! Do you have a direct link to that video? I'd like to see that part. ;) Maybe that's why he looked like he was going to cry at the end! Nobody claped for lil Georgie.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:23 AM
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38. Here's that video.
http://www.c-span.org/

Go to "Recent Programs >>"

Click on: Pres. Bush Speech on Iraq & War on Terrorism (06/28/2005)

I just found it, am starting to watch this mess, myself!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:14 PM
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16. That was when he flipped through the pages of the notebook
for something to do during the pause.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:26 PM
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22. Is that why he was crying by the end of it?
:shrug:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:34 PM
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24. No, he missed Jeff Gannon. "Bulldog! Bulldog! Bitch slap me...
again Bulldog."

"I just wish I could rub the nob,
of my one true love,
that shaved nippled hunk
I call bulldog."

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:08 PM
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6. Interesting
I thought it was supposed to be an hour too but then it got cut thirty min's early. :shrug: Very interesting. I also heard that they were told not to clap and figured they put an extra thirty min's on just in case Bush wanted to say "freedom is on the march" a dozen more times.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:10 PM
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8. This is just the beginning.
Can cat calls and ripe tomatos be very long in coming?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:13 PM
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12. Cream pies.
:evilgrin:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:12 PM
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10. 40 minutes minus 28 minutes = 12 minutes of applause they expected?
They are truly out of their collective minds. They expected 30 percent of the allotted time to be applause?

OMG, they are delusional.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:13 PM
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13. Maybe not that
but they expect appaluses at certain points after he spoke about something. Not all together but at the highlight points of his speech.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:38 PM
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25. Hey, they thought Iraqis would pelt our guys with candy, too.
They aren't very sharp.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:20 PM
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31. No kidding!
Maybe they also expected him to spend a minute or two tripping over complicated words...like, "good evening".
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:12 PM
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11. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
Good GOD, I love it. Not even the TROOPS, who are under ORDER to look all happy and supportive, clapped enough to fill up those extra 12 minutes.

12 fucking minutes of non-clapping throughout the speech that was supposed to happen. Classic.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:13 PM
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14. spin-spin-spin!! :=D
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:14 PM
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15. I remember reading
someone posted one point when they were clapping a guy kept his hands in his lap and another solider had to nudge another solider to clap. LOL!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:14 AM
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37. not all clapped
one shot of the "spontaneous applause" on CNN showed a couple of rows NOT clapping, the camera quickly cut to another row of our troops clapping

same thing happened at the end of the speech

clapping or not - the applause was extremely subdued, polite clapping like you would hear at the end of a poor performance and you are only clapping to be polite
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:10 AM
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36. I actually listened on NPR...
and I noticed the silence. I thought perhaps there was no microphone where it could pick up stuff. Like 12 minutes went by with no response. Then there was that applause cue and it certainly sounded coerced. There was a small group that sounded truly enthused, but it certainly wasn't spontaneous applause and it was utilitarian...steady perfunctory applause that would have greeted something like, "And let's thank wonderbread for providing the toast! Give them a hand!" It drizzled out quickly, with one tiny rev when the people who started it tried to keep it going. It didn't keep going.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:26 PM
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20. I heard today that David Corn was supposed to do an
analysis/rebuttal on NPR, but once they found out the speech was more of the same, NPR told Corn never mind.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:31 PM
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23. I saw that article
It is pretty sad when the speech was so lacking in substance that they did not want any analysis.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:46 PM
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26. Maybe that's why he was crying
he didn't get a single hooya
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TheUnspeakable Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:49 PM
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27. Did anyone hear the speech on the radio?
I caught the tail end and thought he KILLED! ABC local affiliate must have turned the volume of the applause way up (or dubbed it in)because it was really loud and the reporter said "THUNDEROUS applause-an OVERWHELMINGLY ENTHUSIASTIC response from the troops for their commander-in chief" I was completely bummed and felt hopeless that all of these people would react that way. Then I read DU today and it's a whole different story. Thanks DUers!!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:38 PM
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30. You need to write to that affiliate
This makes an interesting story. Do you have a tape or a transcript from the affiliate?
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TheUnspeakable Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:58 AM
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32. No, I don't have a tape..
It's the station that carries Sean Hannity's show and when I listen to Randi Rhodes I change over to it during commercial breaks just for laughs. Apparantly they had cut away from Sean to cover the speech and it was some reporter (I don't know who)I'm going to check and see if I can email them or something-really it was so freaky to find out what it was actually like after hearing that!
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TheUnspeakable Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:10 AM
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35. Just emailed them
"Could you please tell me who the commentator was after the coverage of Tuesday night's speech by President Bush? It was during Sean Hannity's show, but it wasn't Sean. This person said there was thundering applause and an overwhelming response to the speech-I was left with a totally different impression than what I have since learned happened. Thank you"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:45 AM
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40. I heard it on the radio
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 03:45 AM by nadinbrzezinski
and it was subdued... local AAR station, they ran the CBS feed
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:02 PM
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29. Were casualties from Afghanistan Chinook crash out of Ft. Bragg?
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 08:17 PM by Octafish
I heard the troops aboard were special forces.

That might explain the, um, stares.

Most important: May God grant their families the strength to continue.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:05 AM
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34. You might have something there, Octafish.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:24 AM
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41. It was also the Special Forces from Fort Bragg
who had Osama surrounded in Tora Bora when the brass showed up and took over the operation. Then the helicopters came and took Osama away.

It was also Fort Bragg that had a number of 'suicides' from the same force a short time later.

The folks at this base have been through a lot, yet Bu$h barely recognizes their sacrifices. No wonder they're not jumping for joy when they see him.
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bdot Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:42 AM
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39. Idea of Republican media outlets.
They should have responded that the reason that the speech was so short instead of filling the allotted time frame was because they figured there would be a lot of demostrations and protestors. Since there were none of them during the speech, everyone must have loved the speech.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:14 AM
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42. The NYT is discussing the silience
The NYT is discussing the silence. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/30/politics/30speech.html?

After two presidential campaigns, Mr. Bush has finely tuned his sense of timing for cueing applause, especially when it comes to his most oft-expressed declarations of resolve to face down terrorists. But when the crowd did not respond on Tuesday , he seemed to speed up his delivery a bit. Then, toward the end of the 28-minute speech, there was an outbreak of clapping when Mr. Bush said, "We will stay in the fight until the fight is done."

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