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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:13 PM
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DEBATE: Is McClintock protecting Arnold?
Arnold gets called out by Arianna and McCLintock answers for him and defends Arnold's position?

maybe that's why McClintock is there?
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:18 PM
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1. Keep us updated...Please!
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:19 PM
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I'm not watching ...
but you're telling me that Arnold - big, strong, terminator Arnold - needs McClintock to protect him? ROFLMAO!


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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:19 PM
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2. More like the referee is protecting Ahnold!
He just gave Ahnold about 50 % of the time to respond to the last question.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:20 PM
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3. Won't People notice arnie can't answer for himself?
and that mcclintock is a butinski?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:21 PM
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4. Green Party just lied about the 38 Bill deficit!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:21 PM
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5. and where's mention of Enron stealing billions from the CA budget??
That's all that needs to be said to tie Arnold to the Bush petro-nazis and drop him like a turd into the bowl of political obscurity.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:29 PM
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10. Ariana mentioned it...
when they were discussing the so-called good years of the '90s, she reminded the others that the '90s created monsters like Enron.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:23 PM
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6. Go Ariana! Hitting arnold on sex, violent movies, hummers....
She is a fast talker, equated morality with balancing the budget.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:24 PM
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7. Way too many Arnold fans cheering in the background.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:27 PM
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9. Can't wait to see the transcripts to get a count...
of the number of times the moderator called on Ahnold vs. the rest of the candidates. I would almost bet that it's 2:1.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:29 PM
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12. There have been cheers for Ariana too.
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:25 PM
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8. Why won't Arianna bring up Arnold meeting with Ken Lay
?
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:29 PM
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11. Ariann and ahnold going at it the most.
She tied him to Bush policies and he talked over her saying 'if you want to run against Bush, go to New Hampshire.'
He's using his testosterone to dominate the dialogue. She's fighting back pretty well...
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:30 PM
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13. Arianna - TWO MIN WARNING.
Arianna is RUNNING THE DEBATE!
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:32 PM
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16. What did she say a couple minutes ago that everybody hooted over
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 08:33 PM by karlschneider
and the mod said it was a 'personal attack'? I was taking a pee and missed it. :grr:

Edit: never mind, you guys already said!
:D

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:33 PM
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18. Great! We know she an eloquent talker....I remember when
I used to hate her voice on the old cnbc geraldo show when she would be talkin' against Dems!

Glad she came out of the Dark!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:31 PM
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14. Yeah! He was talking over her and she said 'that's the way you treat woman
The moderator said that was a clear personal attack and ahnold could respond. He said 'I've got a perfect part for you in Terminator 4.'
Meaning dunking a woman's head in a toilet fyi...
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:36 PM
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22. That remark should go over real well ...
with the women of California. Maria must be so proud. :puke: Keep talkin' butthead - show the voters your true colors.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:31 PM
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15. DID YOU JUST HEAR WHAT ARIANA SAID!!
OMG, and the mod sided with Arnold. Arnold was talking over Ariana, and she said that it was obvious that he did not know how to treat women, so the MOD steps in and says that Ariana is personally attacking Arnold, and cuts her time and allows Arnold to finish the response time, at which time Arnold said something like "I have a role for you in Terminator." What an asshole. IF you guys in cali elect him, you deserve it.
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tico Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:34 PM
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19. I'm leaving Cali if Ahnold wins
I do miss my family in MS.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:33 PM
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17. Bustamante frequently being contrite and saying 'you're right' to critics.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:34 PM
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20. Ahnold keeps saying 'worker's conversation' instead of compensation.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:36 PM
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21. go Arianna!
expose him
hit his buttons

its the only chance to torpedo this neo-nazi pig
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:42 PM
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23. Topic:how much to spend on healthcare for kids of illegal immigrants.
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 08:43 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
Bustamante sez 'don't take it out on the kids' to cheers.
Ahnold: his pro-family rap. 'Gov't hasn't made it avail to those who qualify.'
Ariana: Digging him on his vote for prop187. And his denying driver's licenses to the kids parents.
Ahnold sez the license denial is because of security issues.
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shepard Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:46 PM
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25. McClintock says
Illegals are cutting in line in front of the legal immigrants
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:18 AM
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30. Hi shepard!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:45 PM
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24. This debate SUCKS (plus analysis of a question)
Arnold appears to be dominating, in his moronic way. He speaks loudly and over all the others. Bustamante doesn't come off too well. McClintock is milquetoast, Camejo isn't getting to say much. Arianna is feisty against Arnold and making some great points but Arnold is using
his macho image.

Talking about health care. "How much money should California spend on health care for children of illegal immigrants?"

Cruz: be compassionate, not kids' fault, immigrants work hard, pay taxes, provide much of the work in services -- (he got nice applause)

Camejo: same as above mostly but stronger, rejects term "illegal" for immigrants, these people are moving here to feed their families, we need to help; right on Peter!

Arnold: important to take care of children; make sure every child is insured (yeah let's see him back that up); he appears to be dodging the question about immigrants. Arianna is challenging him on it! Says she's glad to hear he wants to give insurance to "illegal immigrants" --

McClintock: says we are talking about "illegals", undermines immigration laws.

Arianna: what I like about Tom McClintock is you know where he stands, unlike Arnold. Arianna is SLAMMING Arnold at every opportunity. Gotta love it.

Arianna talking about Prop 54! Go go go!


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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:46 PM
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26. This moderator absolutely sucks
I wish he'd quit protecting the moron
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KTM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 08:56 PM
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27. Ahnold makes me think of Monty Python...
specifically, the character of Death in The Meaning of Life who says "Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you
Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'.

Ahnold just keeps interrupting, "Lemme tell you something".. someone needs to tell him to shut up.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 09:07 PM
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28. Arianna is helping us, IMHO, by beating Arnold to a pulp
Arianna is awesome. :)
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 09:16 PM
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29. He's nailed him on inaccuracies.
Here comes the scripted end and he's saying it like he would if he were in a movie.
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