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taquinas101 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:52 AM
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Could Roy Moore Get Nominated For Supreme Court?
Roy Moore is the Alabama Ten Commandments judge. With some conservatives denouncing Albert "Geneva Is Quaint" Gonzalez as "too liberal" I am starting to think that this is the only way conservatives can get even more radical.

Here's an excerpt from Roy Moore's website:

Statement by former Chief Justice Roy Moore and the Foundation for Moral Law Concerning the Retirement of Justice Sandra Day O'Connor
July 1, 2005

“This is an excellent opportunity for the President of the United States to return the Supreme Court toward a proper understanding of the Constitution and the First Amendment. Sandra Day O'Connor has continuously moved toward a more liberal view and in the recent Ten Commandments cases, McCreary County and Van Orden, she demonstrated a clear misunderstanding of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Her unfortunate legacy has strengthened so-called rights of sodomy and abortion not found in the Constitution, but has eroded fundamental rights actually in the text of the Constitution, such as life, liberty, and property. These inalienable rights have been repeatedly undermined by the removal of the acknowledgment of God from our land and the adoption of international laws to govern our conduct. Justices of the Supreme Court must recognize both the sovereignty of God and the supremacy of the U.S. Constitution.”

Gee, you would almost think that he is campaigning for the job?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:56 AM
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1. Roy Moore's idea of government
Nooses at all trees and the 10 Commandments below them.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:07 AM
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3. what's the deal with the nooses?
I'm no fan of Roy Moore. He's a religious zealot, a crazy man, and an egomaniac and a political opportunist. But I'm not aware of him being a fan of lynching, or a racist. I even saw a program on CSPAN not long ago with some black religious zealots that love Roy. Are you throwing in the "noose" comment simply because Moore's an Alabama resident?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:11 AM
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5. Roy Moore did suggest that gays and lesbians could be put to death

You know, for violating laws of God, etc.

Not exactly pro-lynching--- but not particularly humanifuckingtaritan from where I sit, either.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:18 AM
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6. I never said Moore was humanifuckingtarian
I promise.

He's just a crazy man, and if people ignored him he might go away.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:26 AM
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8. Actually, you said you weren't aware of him being a fan of lynching.
To me, calling for gays and lesbians to be put to death isn't much better.

And he may be "just a crazy man", but he's not a guy walking down the street arguing with himself about time travel- he was elected Chief Justice of an entire State (to avoid charges of regional slamming, I won't say which one) and that ALONE makes him awfully hard to "ignore".
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:40 AM
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9. he was removed from office, because he was deemed unfit
Because he violated the law.

There is NO chance he will be nominated for the Supreme Court. Though the nominee will likely be a lot more evil. Just more careful.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:24 AM
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13. You can be a hanging judge without being a racist
Roy Moore seems to me like the kind of a judge who would drag your ass out into the rotunda of his courthouse and string it up himself if he thought you didn't show the Proper Respect Toward God.

Roy's a hangin' judge, but like you I'm not aware of any racial bigotries he holds.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:49 AM
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17. There was a great article
about Roy in the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Reporter a while back. It might make sense to conclude that a fellow who wants to impose his brand of christianity shows some insensitivity towards those who do not follow it. That includes those of other religious traditions who are frequently non-white. Thus, you might not be aware of any racial bigotries, but many others are aware of subtle things like his statue.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:42 PM
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21. I don't think Roy is a racist
I'm positive he's a contemptible bigot, but race has nothing to do with his feelings. Religion does. Walk into Roy's courtroom as a Southern Baptist and, no matter what color you are, you're all right with him. Walk into his courtroom as anything else and he hates your guts. Once again, color is immaterial.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:03 AM
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2. no
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 03:31 AM by Syrinx
No there's no chance that would happen.

First there's no chance he would be confirmed.

He was removed from the Alabama Supreme Court for refusing to obey a higher court ruling. Plus he's known to be quite insane.

Secondly, he's a religious zealot. Republicans like to use religious zealotry to run on. But the nee-con game is really about big business. Moore on the court would be counter to their cause, though not in a way that would make us lefties happy.

There is no chance that Bush will try to put Moore on the court. None.

If you want to fear Alabama wackos on the court, put your stock in William Pryor Jr. While I doubt he will be a pick either, it's a very much more real possibility than Roy Moore.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:42 AM
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10. Technically he could be nominated
I don't beleive Pubbies are that insane, but technically he could be nominated... would be political suicide I think, but ... he could
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:04 AM
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12. well technically a lot of things could happen
But I don't think it will.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:09 AM
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4. I don't know. Torquemada is still dead, isn't he?
I have no doubt that Bush is currently scouring the land for the worst of the worst of the worst.
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queeg Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:23 AM
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7. I just keep telling myself not to laugh at them----
He appoints this whacko, and there will be a full 5 minutes of silence across this country before it is decided by Lib-elites and Freepers alike that ole' George needs a rubber room.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:59 AM
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11. No, because he's a nut.
The chimpster will want someone like Olson. Olson is also a nut, but not as obvious and a whole lot scarier.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:37 AM
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14. Of course he could! The only question is
Would the Dems roll over and let him in?

Based on their behavior over the past 4 years, I think that's a very open question....
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:07 AM
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15. Yes and that might polarize sides on the issue and show how stupid his
followers are. It's always wise to make people choose sides and reveal their true commitments.

Bring them on!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:26 AM
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16. I don't think bush is that stupid
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 06:27 AM by mmonk
I think it will be a stealth rightwinger and a Scalia or Thomas court. They can accomplish the same evil ends.
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taquinas101 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:53 AM
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18. Wouldn't A Stealth Rightwinger Be Like Gonzalez?
Look at some of the nuts on the far right criticizing Gonzalez as too liberal. If you pick another stealth right winger, Bush will encounter the same problem. The right wingers are still smarting from Bork, and this is their best chance to simply ram a religious right judge down the collective throat of mainstream America.

In other words, a stealth right winger displeases both the left and the right.

BTW I recall that a majority of Americans polled opposed the removal of the ten commandments monument. Thus, many Americans might very well think the nomination of person like Roy Moore to be holy vindication.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:22 PM
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20. No
someone under the radar that is aligned with the Federalist Society mindset.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:54 AM
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19. I think he should be the GOP's next presidential candidate.
With Alan Keyes as VP nominee. :evilgrin:
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