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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:51 AM
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U.S. Trying to link Zarkawi to London Bombings
Here we go, ladies & gents. I just heard on MSNBC that US intel says that Zarkawi *may* have been involved on some level with the bombings in London.

Are we taking bets as to which repuke will be the first to get on the air and raw-raw the Iraq war with this piece of *may* be info {or *may* just more shit for lies}?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:54 AM
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1. They probably will find a connection
There's definately an ideological connection between the two groups. There might even be a real connection; although we'll never know for sure.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:56 AM
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4. Didn't they find unexploded devices?
Or is that already down the memory hole?

No surprise that our worthless media is already making shit up to help Bush catapult his propaganda.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:01 AM
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5. You are right, we'll never know for sure
As long as they have intel shape shifters dispensing info, we will never know what is real & what is made up. Pretty sad.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:54 AM
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2. On "some level"
... meaning he watched the coverage of the bombings on TV. MSNBC spreads more bullshit than a fertilzing machine. Where was "U.S. Intelligence" before the bombings happened. This is incredible! I'm so sick of living in Truman Show America.
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:54 AM
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3. Which means that Kevin Bacon was also involved. >
At least we know where he is. Take him down~
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:03 AM
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6. And they probably had to use all 7 degrees
..to come up with their association.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:04 AM
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7. you mean our imaginary Mr. Boogeyman?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:49 AM
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12. Yep. The one legged boogyman n/t
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:04 AM
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8. If so, how does that work to the NeoCon advantage?
It disproves Bush's idiotic theory that we fight them there so we won't have to fight them here. It shows they can bring the fight to us if they so choose.

It also shows the Iraq invasion hasn't made us safer at all. Before the invasion Iraq never attacked us or England. Since the invasion we are now at risk. They have created more terrorists, not decreased the number.

We need to frame this issue correctly before the right wing stands logic on its head and the sheeple swallow it whole.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:47 AM
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11. Your analysis is correct...however
we see the pattern of the neo-cons turning logic on it's head time after time, and the sheeple indeed swallow it whole.

Right now their talking point is that there was terrorism before the Iraq war---that's their only talking point, but they are hammering it almost unquestioned. Ron Reagan is doing a pretty good job at dismantling the propaganda, but he is but one voice in a sea of con-talk.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:56 AM
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14. I think you are missing the more compelling point.
They portray Zarqawi as the leader of the Iraqi resistance. If they can blame the bombings in London on him, it justifies continuing the war Iraq.

Its a big pack of lies, but if they can convince people that the forces we are fighting in Iraq are themselves involved with attacks on London(and presumably New York) than they have a much better justification for war than the absurd "fight them there instead of here"
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:06 AM
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9. This utilization of suggestion really pisses me off.
The frequency of the use of suggestion is gross as hell. :grr:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:06 AM
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10. IF he was, the British, at least, will see the blood on Bush's hands
Al-Zarqawi was a result of Bush's illegal and pointless invasion. Americans are too naive to get that, but the British, who have higher standards for whom they would want to drink a beer with, apparently, don't fall for his lies as easily.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:53 AM
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13. LOL, yep, just like he ran the fallujah resistance by telephone.
Im pretty sure he is the reason I was late for work this morning.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:22 PM
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15. I'm wondering the same thing -
Here are the two mysterious connections with this attack:

1) Rudy Ghouliani was right outside a subway entrance at the time of the bombings. Hmm.....that seems a little strange.

2) The Israeli Embassy was allegedly contacted just minutes before the first bomb blast. Who called them? Who knew? Certainly not "Al-Qaida", because they're not friends. Somebody else did.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:23 PM
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16. No, it was ETA!
/Aznar
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