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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:39 PM
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Will Fitzgerald Indict Rove? - JOSHUA FRANK
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Earlier this week I reported that a handful of Washington insiders had admitted that they believed Bush's top political strategist, Karl Rove, would be indicted for perjury within the next two weeks. Rove, who has spoken to a grand jury on more than one occasion about the outing of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative, has relayed through his lawyer, and most likely told the grand jury, that he never "knowingly" passed along any confidential information to the press.

The claim that Rove may be indicted for perjuring himself could be inching toward reality. As Time reporter Matthew Cooper spills the beans to a grand jury, special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald may be receiving the testimony he needs to finally charge Rove with a federal crime.

In order to indict an alleged perjurer, the prosecution needs at least two witnesses to step forward. Several journalists have already given their testimony (perhaps the infamous Robert Novak himself) to a grand jury, and it is believed that at least one (possibly more) has already listed Rove as the leaker. If this is true, all Fitzgerald needs is an additional person to claim Rove was their inside guy.

At this point there is no significant evidence that proves Karl Rove played a central role in the outing of Plame. However, there is still ample reason to believe that Rove may have done just that.

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More: http://www.counterpunch.org/frank07082005.html

*singing* "Rove drops keep fallin just like lead..."

:evilgrin:

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:41 PM
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1. If it happens:
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:50 PM
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2. Has there been any word on what Cooper said?
He testified yesterday, right?
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sickem Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:58 PM
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4. Rove knows too much
about this administration for them to ever allow him to face felony charges. They'd have to kill him. If he ever started singing in an attempt to save his own rotten ass he alone could bring down the whole house of cards.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:54 PM
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3. :D
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 12:54 PM by jsamuel
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:10 PM
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7. LOL !!! - THAT... Is Very Good !!!
:yourock:

Bookmarked it for the day I have to stea... borrow it!!!

:evilgrin:

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:59 PM
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5. Hell no, he won't indict Rove; Rove had him appointed for crying out loud.
The Bush** WH is totally controlled by Rove.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:06 PM
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11. Fitzgerald doesn't work in the White House.
Nor does he work for the White House. He doesn't care who appointed him, and he doesn't feel that he owes anyone anything. I've been watching him in Illinois for several years, and he's basically a land shark when it comes to pursuing all the threads in a case. They can't expect to fire him and get away with it, nor can they kill him. They're screwed.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:53 PM
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14. You're a bit confused as to who appointed Fitzgerald...
Plame Time Line
<http://www.rcfp.org/behindthehomefront/search.php?srch=valerie+plame>

QUOTE:

"2003-12-31 SPECIAL COUNSEL WILL INVESTIGATE PLAME LEAK. Attorney General John Ashcroft recused himself Tuesday from the Justice Department\'s investigation into the leak of the identity of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame, as a special counsel was appointed to lead the case. Deputy Attorney General James B. Comey, Jr. named Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the U.S. Attorney in Chicago, as the special counsel in charge of directing the investigation. According to The Washington Post and The New York Times , Ashcroft\'s decision has led some to speculate that the investigation is moving closer to key White House officials, many of whom have close ties to Ashcroft. The investigation began after unidentified senior administration officials revealed Plame\'s identity to columnist Robert Novak, who published her name in a July 2003 column. Plame\'s husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, had publicly criticized the Bush administration for asserting that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from Niger after he travelled to Africa on a CIA mission in 2002."
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 11:46 AM
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15. Yes, I know Comey formally appointed him when Ashcroft recused.
But my belief (no data) is that the WH told Comey who to use. Cynical? Yes. I don't trust those bastards.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:08 PM
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6. I don't know, but if he does, Rove is sure to be convicted.
Fitzgerald would never indict unless he had an airtight case. He's not going to go after the most powerful Repug without damning evidence.

However, since the Repugs control the appellate courts, Rove's conviction will be overturned on a technicality--ala all the Iran-Contra crooks.

Rove will never sing to save his own butt. He knows either on appeal or by a Bush pardon, he'll be free in no time.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:54 PM
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8. Kick !!!
:kick:
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:55 PM
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9. I'll be leaping for joy like everyone else!
:)
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:59 PM
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10. Are there Vegas odds posted anywhere?
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:27 PM
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12. If I can see that on TV, or read it in a newspaper, I'll cry for an hour
just out of relief that my country is coming back from the edge of the cliff.

We can be america, again.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:48 PM
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13. "No significant evidence that proves Karl Rove played a central role...
...in the outing of Plame"?

Hmmm. I'd say that we're hearing from people in the know that seem to believe otherwise.

Fitzgerald has spent two years building the case that will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Rove was indeed an integral part of the conspiracy to not only expose Plame, but to also destroy her global network.

I also believe that destroying Plame's network may have been their ultimate goal, because that was one of the final remaining barriers to the NeoCon efforts to make the world believe that Iraq had WMDs.

And finally, neither Rove nor any of the other members of WHIG would have operated without clear approval from one or both of Bush and Cheney.
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