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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:21 PM
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Horrific statements in the media about London attacks, liberals, etc.
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 02:28 PM by iconoclastic cat
I took most of this from dKos. What the hell is going on in this country?

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Fox News: Arabs and "regular" Londoners

by kos
Fri Jul 8th, 2005 at 02:04:58 EDT

Amazing. Fox News reporter, talking about the terrorist who bombed London today:

That these people are, If necessary, prepared to spill Arab blood in addition to the blood of regular -- of nonarab people living in London.


How nice. As nice as Brit Hume thinking the attacks would be a great investment opportunity (his first thought after he heard about the attacks, in fact). And then there's Fox anchor Brian Kilmeade talking about how awesome it was that London got bombed.

And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.


Kilmeade apparently doesn't realize that the UK has had long experience dealing with terrorists (the IRA).

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Did kos' story about Fox piss you off? There is more:

by Closet VB Coder
Fri Jul 8th, 2005 at 10:10:10 EDT

How dumb can Fox be? Dome enough not to take this bs out their transcripts that are edited for clarity. I saw this conversation when it aired, and felt like making a diary then. But I didn't remember the exact words and figured it would be wiped from the transcript. The FP story today just reminded me, so I'd figured I'd check the transcript.


Amazingly enough, they left it in there!
PINKERTON: Well, the two employees took their case to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which would love to find any corporation guilty of discrimination. And one of the - one of the --as -- we'll see, one of them was black, the other was female -- and the EEOC dismissed the case. So I suspect on the merits, so far at least, there's not much evidence that they were unfairly treated.

However, there is clearly - just to refute Jane here for a second - there's clearly, if you're a Wiccan, if you're a Muslim, if you're any kind of odd - I'll take that back.

BURNS: Yes you will.

(LAUGHTER)

PINKERTON: Any kind of non-mainstream, non-religion, you get a much better run than if you get up there and talk about Jesus Christ.


No news to any of us, but Fox News officially states that anything but Jesus Christ is a non-religion. I don't have alot more to add, I just figured it would go nicely with the front page story.
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Round Up all Muslims, Liberals and other Traitors
by lowkell
Fri Jul 8th, 2005 at 06:00:26 EDT

Here are some right-wingers thoughts, if we can call them that, on the terrorist attacks in London yesterday. Unbelievable.

Brit Hume (Fox News): "...my first thought when I heard -- just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, 'Hmmm, time to buy.'"

Brian Kilmeade (Fox News): "that works to...the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together."

Washington Times Lead Editorial "Even when we are debating terrorism here in the United States, the argument in recent months has not focused on how to wage a better war on terror. Instead, we dither over proper handling of the Koran; whether terrorists should be treated like normal criminals; or if Iraq is a central front. Responsible Americans must wonder now if the present debate is moving us farther away from security. "

Michelle Malkin: "London has been a breeding ground for bomb-loving Jihadists."

Captain's Quarters: "We, Brit and American, will finish the job. There is a reason that English-speaking people have dominated the world for centuries..."

Blogs for Bush: "We on the right are lectured endlessly on how the dissent shown by the left vis a vis the War on Terrorism is actually the highest form of patriotism...I've long held that its actually just a bunch of anti-American bellyachers spouting off on things beyond their comprehension."

Trey Jackson: "Enough hand holding, appeasing, talking "their" talk..........THE BUSH DOCTRINE................either you're with us or against us. I say, first Declare War on Syria with our Coalition (Brits, Japanese, Baltic Nations, Israel, Australia) with a tactical approach to moving into Iran. "

Mark Steyn "With hindsight, the Spaniards were let off lightly for their contemptible behaviour ....After the initial shock of stumbling over the truth, what will Britain do? Go back to the Bob Geldof agenda or avenge her dead?"

Little Green Footballs (multiple comments): "We need to stop fucking with these people and kill every one involved. I mean anyone with prior knowledge, anyone who payed for it, and anyone who supported it. Regardless of nationality."

"If its Islamic it will probably blow up. All Islamic get full body searches with VERY high intensity X-rays ."

"The best way to deliver those high intensity x-rays is through some W76 warheads at around 100 kt a piece. It will be easier to give a full body search after that."

"Britain should END ALL ISLAMIC IMMIGRATION NOW....Continuing to welcome the enemy into your country is insane."

"subhumans, first time on 2 feet...round em all up, every friggin' last one of them...unfortunately, I still think it will take even more violence from the Arabs before the West wakes up and goes savage on em"

"Some folks go out of their way to tell me that treasonous, anti-American statements made by high-level Democrats and high-level liberals just about every day don't reflect on Democrats or liberals."

"Say I'm a bigot. I don't care anymore. I spent part of my day reading the insanity at DU, and I know the enemy and he is LIBERAL. They attack the Constitution and our freedoms, and muslim scum attack us with bombs and swords. They are on the same team, there is no doubt."

"Martyring Muslims doesn't seem to make much of a difference to the fanatics. What is needed is to take their human capital out their hands - their children. No more warped children, no more jihadis. "

And on and on it goes in right-wing Hate Land. In sum: 1) the terrorist attacks were actually a good thing, a buying opportunity, and a unifying experience; 2) all Muslims are terrorists (not just the 0.001% who blow up trains, etc.) and should be "rounded up," "shot in the back of the head," kept out of the country and/or have their children taken away from them; 3) liberals and Democrats are treasonous and "the enemy," just as bad as the terrorists; 4) civil liberties and the rule of law should, apparently, be completely thrown out the window in a time of "war;" and 5) if you do anything than vote for right-wingers, then you deserve what you get.

Meanwhile, Democrats universally abhor the London attacks, pray for the victims, urge a greater focus on tracking down Osama bin Laden, and point out that the Iraq war has been a major distraction from the real fight against al Qaeda. For that, we are called "traitors" and "anti-American bellyachers" who have "gone too far." This, my friends, perfectly encapsulates the mentality of the right wing - stifle dissent, demonize the political opposiition, threaten to "round up" and even kill all members of an entire religion (Islam), etc. In its own way, this type of thinking is even more threatening to our Democracy than the terrorists themselves, heinous as they are. Both must be opposed.
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Is it just me, or are things in this country about ready to snap?
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:28 PM
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1. The scariest thing
is that this is practiced in Iraq by some US troops. The cousin of the Iraqi ambassador to the UN was shot in the neck recently by US Marines during a house search in his home. Apparently for no reason. Kids are thrown in the river and so on just for being Iraqis.

The right-wing idiot sheep don't realize that someone wants them to react in exactly this manner. They want to use their hate for political purposes. It's the 1930s all over again, Muslims having been substituted for Jews. The rhetoric is almost identical.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:30 PM
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2. "Muslims having been substituted for Jews"
Not just Muslims. Liberals, homosexuals, non-fundies, teachers, intellectuals, and more.

I don't think we're going to vote our way out of this.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:38 PM
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7. I think all the other groups have been common targets...
of the fascists and totalitarians in recent history.

But I guess you need one "enemy" to really demonize, really get people to hate...then that hatred can be used to help suppress dissent among the "enemy sympathizers" (i.e. liberals, etc.)
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:52 PM
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13. Yes, except all those other groups
were also attacked by the same 1930s movements that attacked the Jews.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:09 PM
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15. "I don't think we're going to vote our way out of this."
You have said a mouthful.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:38 PM
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8. your sig pic gets more and more too close for comfort
a new type of fascism for a New American Century: there will be great distinctions between Nazism and the U.S., enough to keep the populace quiet, and probably with fewer disappearances: but being strangled with a velvet glove is as bad as an iron-shod gauntlet, nonetheless.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:31 PM
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3. By their statements on the London bombings, ye shall know them!
Embeds, like Judith Miller.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:31 PM
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4. Even if the RWer's don't all think exactly this way...
if they support BushCo, they support the same policies that these subhumans do, so, by extension...
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:34 PM
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5. oh they've already snapped
these are our fellow so-called Americans talking this smack.

The only solidarity they have ever felt in their miserable loser lives is in hating everything not white and uptight like themselves.

They hated England when they left it the first time, kicked out by the liberals to fend for themselves in the wilds of America because they were too damn loony to tolerate in England.

They hated native Americans, who they tricked and swindled and murdered and then finally herded onto reservations, and then they hated the blacks in the 50's, the feminists in the 60's, the "chicanos" in the 70's, the jews on and off for a couple thousand years, the gays just because, and now open season on muslims and liberals.

If you were to take away ALL THE HATE there would be nothing left of these people. Nothing. It's their identity now, ingrained into a "lifestyle", to use a word they love to use about everyone else.



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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:37 PM
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6. I consider myself a very rational, logical person.
But I really do think that we may be heading for armed violence at the hands of some of these people.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:46 PM
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10. there is one thing you can be certain of about them
1. they are deluded into thinking that they ARE the mainstream. They are not. Even most people I know who are republican, and even deeply conservative, recoil in horror from this kind of dialogue.

2. they are COWARDS. Armchair revolutionaries. They froth and piss and moan, and possibly beat their wife or daughter in the afternoon, kick the dog, and then they're all used up until they can go find some more meth or oxycontin and do it all again the next day.

Yes some of them are dangerous, more so the ones who can rouse the rabble with a talk show than frighten someone with a pop gun, but not enough to matter against the rest of us who actually did study history and know when and how to keep these monkeys down.

Their mistake is in thinking that the other side is weak or even afraid of them, and that would be a fatal mistake if they ever thought to take up arms against their fellow Americans.

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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:46 PM
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9. Listen , if we Brits can deal with yesterday's attacks,
with courage, dignity and level-headed common sense then we don't neeed these fuckers speaking on our behalf. We don't need their hate spewing over here either.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:49 PM
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11. exactly
they are pimps, selling crocodile tears and hollow emotion and useless rhetoric shamelessly wrapped in a flag with tacky background music to anyone who will listen long enough to justify their advertising slot rates.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:50 PM
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12. Right, Mr Blur....
it must seem pretty silly to listen to us whine about RWers at a time like this. I just hope this will bring about the end of Tony Blair. I thought the last election would teach him a lesson, but what will it take?
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:58 PM
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14. There's a handful of lunatics, there's 60,000 of us liberal motherfuckers
I'm not overly concerned. ;)

As for the pundits, they're only in it for the money. They'll change their tune once this one stops selling advertisement blocks.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:12 PM
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16. ah more news from the front lines of our current cold civil war
yes things are about to go hot, it will take little now
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:14 PM
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17. Do you think this whole problem will come to violence,
or do you think that these blowhards are nothing but hot air?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:25 PM
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18. I hope it will be defused
but 1860 comse to mind more often than not these days
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