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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:39 PM
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Indiana cookie company pulls ads:"Can't promote people CHOOSING to be gay"
http://www.ellisonbakery.com/

An Indiana bakery has pulled a large ad campaign from a trade magazine in response to the publication's decision to run a pro-homosexual editorial.

For years Ellison Bakery has advertised extensively in Dairy Field magazine, a trade publication for the dairy industry. Recently, however, Dairy Field ran an editorial critical of conservative pro-family groups such as the American Family Association for censuring Kraft Foods for its pro-homosexual policies. AFA has particularly targeted Kraft lately because of the food company's sponsorship of the 2006 Gay Games in Chicago

Upon seeing the editorial criticizing the pro-family group, Ellison Bakery general manager Todd Wallin quickly pulled the company's $20,000 advertising account from the magazine. "This is not a personal attack against people who have chosen this type of lifestyle," he hastens to explain, adding that homosexuals, like all people "are created in the image of God." Nevertheless, the executive adds, "I don't support things that would promote people making those bad choices."

"I received a call back from the president of Stagnito Communications," the Ellison Bakery official notes. He says the publishing company head mentioned that his editorial staff has been asked not to write about sex, politics, and religion -- a policy with which Wallin agrees to some extent. "They are a trade publication," he says, "and that's really not the appropriate venue for those types of things."...

"I don't want my company to be seen that way, and certainly personally do not want to do things that would promote people making that type of choice," Wallin says. He maintains that Dairy Field had no business printing the pro-homosexual editorial and feels it was inappropriate for inclusion in a trade publication.

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/7/82005c.asp
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:41 PM
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1. We don't choose to be gay. One sometimes feels like hitting one's head...
against a wall, reading for the 101,232rd time that we somehow woke up in the morning and "chose" to be gay.

God, this gets fucking tiresome.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:45 PM
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4. I know terrya. It is indeed tiresome.
Sigh.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:45 PM
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5. i didn't choose to be straight either
and neither did any of those hate-filled bastards.

I feel for you. I really do.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:46 PM
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7. Don't you remembe that time in your life your were asked to choose?
/sarcasm Do these people feel they have so much attraction to both genders that it is just a choice. Maybe they are all completely bi sexual and think all it would take would be one slip up and they would be having wild gay hot sex.

If they cant see it in themselves to be able to choose either gender then why do they think we do?
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:43 PM
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2. Oh Jesus H. Christ
can someone get this people a FREAKING LIFE?

I see they have a lovely hate mail option on their website. :D
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:44 PM
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3. Idiots.
"For years Ellison Bakery has advertised extensively in Dairy Field magazine, a trade publication for the dairy industry. Recently, however, Dairy Field ran an editorial critical of conservative pro-family groups such as the American Family Association for censuring Kraft Foods for its pro-homosexual policies. AFA has particularly targeted Kraft lately because of the food company's sponsorship of the 2006 Gay Games in Chicago"

"He maintains that Dairy Field had no business printing the pro-homosexual editorial and feels it was inappropriate for inclusion in a trade publication."

So, a dairy trade magazine can't write an editorial condemning a boycott of the largest dairy food producer in the world? I would think that issue is central to a trade magazine's purpose. He's just lying by diversion - his real issue is that he hates gays.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:46 PM
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6. Indeed. He can take his lousy cookies & peddle them to the right wing
I bet they're crummy anyhow. :)
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:47 PM
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8. No they're pretty good
Archway Cookies. But I won't eat them anymore anyway and I'm telling them why.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:53 PM
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12. Are you sure these are Archway
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 07:54 PM by Bluebear
which ARE good! :)
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:57 PM
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16. If you look through the website it says somewhere
that they make "some varieties of Archway Cookies"

Yes they are good. I used to get them! But there are other yummy cookies in the world. Even some made by Kraft.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:58 PM
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17. I found it
http://www.ellisonbakery.com/1-about/history1.html

Down the page under "Archway Cookies"

Archway Cookies

In 1949, Ellison Bakery began producing Swanson Homemade Cookies, which are now known as "Archway Cookies". Donald Ellis became one of the earliest pioneers of Archway, producing a high-quality product made from only the finest ingredients.

His vision, energy, and business acumen helped Ellison Bakery become the exclusive producer of Archway cookies for Indiana, Kentucky, and later Wisconsin. Ellison Bakery held this license until 1997. At that time, Ellison renegotiated its agreement with Archway so that now the Bakery supplies certain varieties of Archway Cookies throughout the United States.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:59 PM
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18. Thanks gollygee. Time to start baking my own I guess!
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:48 PM
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10. Ha! Crummy. Cookies.
:)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:52 PM
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11. Either that
or they're afraid of losing business since they think they'd lose a lot of business by people who don't like gay people. :shrug: I think it's so lame.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:48 PM
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9. Time to boycott Archway cookies
it's what Ellison bakery makes.

zalinda
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:53 PM
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13. Is that true?
You are the second to post that, if true no more Archway for me!
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:55 PM
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14. no more archway cookies for me
and they are (unfortunately) good cookies
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:59 PM
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19. Thank you for the info. No more Archway cookies for me, also.
Fuck them. Not one more dime from me.

And I think it's time to pass this along to some friends.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:57 PM
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15. This is one company I won't be buying any products from.....
and besides the general manager is ignorant. The magazine was writing an editorial criticizing the American Family Association for their censuring of Kraft Foods not an article about sex, politics or religion. God I hate ignorance and intolerance but I'm afraid it will always be with us.
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Fritz67 Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:01 PM
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20. And I live in Indiana...
This is just the sort of Red State arrogance and bigotry I have to deal with all the time.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:02 PM
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21. self-delete
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 08:04 PM by Zenlitened
I see in a post above that they make some varieties of Archway.

Sorry, Archway. I choose not to buy.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:03 PM
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22. The website says they make "some varieties"
maybe I'll write to Archway as well and tell them why I won't buy Archway Cookies anymore.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:03 PM
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24. Maybe they will seek out another bakery!
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:05 PM
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25. Yeah! writing Archway will probably be more effective really
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:06 PM
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27. You're right -- I saw your previous post after I wrote.
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 09:03 PM by Zenlitened
And I agree -- no more Archway for this house.

:hi:
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drmom Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:03 PM
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23. Okay...why would someone CHOOSE to be a mistreated minority?
Speaking as a lesbian, if I had any actual choice in the matter, I would not have picked the path where my family disapproves, society limits my rights, and we always have to be careful about who we tell, so as not to be the targets of violence. Isn't this in itself enough "proof" that one does not choose their sexual orientation?
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:05 PM
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26. Ok.. I got a question...
This is not a personal attack against people who have chosen this type of lifestyle," he hastens to explain,adding that homosexuals, like all people "are created in the image of God." Nevertheless, the executive adds, "I don't support things that would promote people making those bad choices."

Ok so if homosexuals are created in the image of God, does that mean that God has some homosexuality in him as well? If he does how could he condemn a part of creation that is also himself. It would be like a parent spanking themself for a wrong doing that the childdid.

Any thoughts?

Dee
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:06 PM
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28. Contact information for Archway Cookies
who contract with Ellison to make some varieties of their cookies:

Call 1-888-4ARCHWAY (1-888-427-2492)
8 a.m. to 5 p.m. EST/EDT

Archway Cookies, LLC
67 West Michigan Avenue Suite 200
Battle Creek MI 49017

I don't see an email option at all.
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really annoyed Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:12 PM
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29. Your Cookies Promote Obesity! Bad "Lifestyle" Choice!
:sarcasm:

I apologize for my language, but I can't stand these homophobic dips*its.

Being an arrogant a*sshole and promoting it as "Christianity" or "morals" is a bad lifestyle choice, in my opinion!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:14 PM
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30. Reminds me of a conversation
I had with my father last weekend. I told him that I didn't think it was a choice, that some people were somehow genetically pre-disposed toward it, and perhaps some environmental factors in childhood contributed to it.

Of course, I don't know. No one really does. But what I DO know is that, as a boy reaching puberty, I never CHOSE to like women...it just developed on its own. So it's not an irrational concept for me to consider that gays--male or female--don't have to make a choice either. It simply develops on its own.

My dad laughed and said--"I'd never thought of it like that."

He's pretty open minded...but I think saying that made him think a little differently than he had. He asked about bi-sexuals, and I said that I thought, for some, it may be a choice. Or, then again, it may be just that their body chemistry works both ways. I'm not sure about that...I've never really been attracted to males, so I'm shooting in the dark there. But I've known a few bi women, and that's the way it seems to me.

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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:21 PM
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31. ummm... I'd have to say that
the body chemistry works both ways. at least for me! :)
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:34 PM
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32. You respond to both male and female pheremones
most likely. I do not.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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