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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:36 AM
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Let's Be Columbo - Let's Out THINK ROVE!

Rove is not a brain scientist, he is just a cunning crook.

He has managed to get away with his dirty tricks because he has a lot of doors pushed open for him by POPPY.

With all the collective wisdom at DU, we should be able to determine what he is doing , why he is doing it and what his next trick will be.

He is simply a bully that is backed up by his GANG.

Columbo would be putting the pieces together and writing it all in his little dirty notepad.

Let's be Columbo, what do we have to do to bring this bully to justice?

:bounce:

We are the worker bees
Naysayers need not respond :bounce: :think: :hi:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:38 AM
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1. Bolton should have tapped Rove's phone
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:41 AM
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4. Do you think that he did tap it?

That wouldn't be a total surprise.
Bolton sure has something on Bush because he had a lot of power and Bush won't back down on him.

Huum
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:45 AM
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7. Hmm...I was kidding when I said that but now that you mention it....
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BlueStateBlue Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:15 PM
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40. Hope he doesn't get suicided n/t
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:38 AM
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2. We could always beat him at his own dirty little game...
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 10:41 AM by TheGoodCitizen
The smear campaigns he ran in Texas worked pretty well for him. I like the Rove "Wanted" poster idea!
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:46 AM
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8. Remember the "Democrats bugged my office" crap in Texas?
We found out later that he in fact had bugged his own phone. What an asshat! He's scum and will do anything to simply win. He doesn't care about people or really politics. He's all about Rove. He is an egotistical p.o.s., period!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:54 AM
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10.  + for us saying " ROVE Outs Plame!"


We know that he probably did out her.

But, if we work like he does, that will bring him down.

One thing we know about a bully. They really get upset if someone turns the tables on them.

I worked in an elementary school and believe me I know about little bully bears like Rove.

Think of him as a third grader. That is what he really is - a third grader all dressed up with a lot of real power/money behind him.

Underneath, he is a scared little wimp.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:02 PM
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24. YOU are correct, sir
"But, if we work like he does, that will bring him down."



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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:57 PM
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25. + for Treason and Perjury!!! Love Your graphics!


We know that he wants to keep his dirty work a secret.

Have you ever heard him take credit for any of this crap?
No, he is a dark of night bully.

Your graphics are wonderful.
We need to expose him to sunlight and see how he likes it.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:57 PM
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23. Yes...
and I also remember them saying that from the time the office was empty and the time they found it, it couldn't have been on the wall for more than 2 or 3 minutes.

:grr:
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ryan_cats Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:30 PM
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30. Please please tell me you have a link.
Please please tell me you have a link. I vaguely remember that, I want to shove it in some relative's face.

It's the dump on Karl day-yea!

Proof is a b*tch, Do you think he prefers the top or bottom bunk?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:47 AM
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9. + for Smearing him Back


Bullies have a real hard time dealing with their own medicine!

Remember that he was behind the Swift Boat Liars, he and the media made that work like a charm.

I love your idea about posters because we must BE our own Media in order to get the word out about him.

He really is a behind the scenes type of bully. If you asked Joe Six Pack who he is they would probably say, " Rove? Never heard of him."
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 02:39 PM
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26. + For Keeping Him Jumping From Smear to Smear Charge


Let's make him work like a juggler--- keep those balls moving....

That could be a great graphic, Rove with Dirty Tricks Balls
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:34 PM
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31. This gang will spit on their mother to get in power


but we always have to play fair.

I am not saying that we should tell LIES on Rove.

We have too much TRUTH to tell about him.
We do need to get the truth out however.
America thinks he is just doing his job, we know better.

Columbo would know that he was guilty immediately.
Columbo would play up to him and have ROVE help him solve the mystery.

Usually, he gets them to feel comfortable with him, have them give him various scenarios then WAM OH!

Fitzsgerald do your duty Pleeeese!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:52 PM
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44. + For A Little Of His Own Smear Medicine nt
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:40 AM
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3. DU goes diabolical? n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:44 AM
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5. Look, their story is essentially this, "We are dirty vindictive
bastards who tried to discredit a truthful public servant because his story interfered with our plan to start a war under false pretenses, BUT WE DID NOT BREAK THE SPECIFIC LAW REGARDING DISCLOSING THE IDENTITY OF A COVERT AGENT." So why don't we just say, "fine, now please explain why dirty vindictive lying bastards are allowed to work at the White House."
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:08 AM
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11.  + for US saying it loud and clear


We can not depend on the sheep in the Media to say it.

We must bring ROVE down because he is the key to this administration.

POPPY pulls the strings and he needs ROVE to pull them tighter.

CHENEY has no heart and he is really tired, so he needs ROVE to do the energy dirty work. One thing a crazy like ROVE has is ENERGY!
He probably takes more uppers than Rush.

The CHIMP needs ROVE because he doesn't even know how to ride a bike. Remember, ROVE is the CHIMP's Brain.

The MEDIA needs ROVE to scare them and make them afraid to ask questions. They are not afraid of SCOTTIE. If ROVE goes, the MEDIA just may change enough to throw the gang out!

So ROVE gone would make it a house of cards.
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:02 PM
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45. Rove won't be "gone" if/when he's gone. >
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 10:03 PM by mr_hat
Not that hard to see, folks.

He's setting himself up as the fall guy, just so the heat will dissipate. He'll continue to pull the strings regardless.

edit: fat fingers
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:44 AM
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6. We need a Columbo in the WH press corps to follow throught
"Oh, just one more thing,"
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 06:15 PM
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36. We need someone to go CRAZY on Scottie


and shock the crap out of them.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:13 PM
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37. I'd shovel out real money to view that!
;)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:13 PM
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43. Here are my 401 K $$$$
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:29 PM
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46. You don't have to dig that deep (assuming you 401 k is worth anything)....
LOL, I only has to dig in my couch for loose change to make the payment on my dial-up connection. Hoot, did you see the WH press conference meltdown today? Takes Peter Falks line "Oh, just one more thing" to a new heights .... We are going to win this damn thing!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:39 PM
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47. Columbus would have been smiling after Scottie hit the mat

today~

My hero Columbo would have been exiting that Press Room and he would turn around and walk quickly, with that cigar, up to Scottie,

" Excuse me, I know how busy you are, I just wanted to ask you one more thing..."

Oh, Columbo would be able to catch these crooks.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:11 AM
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12. What do the facts prove?
There are the facts we know and the facts in evidence that we don't know.

From a conceptual level, we have a couple of choices. From a legal perspective we have to follow the facts (Dragnet style)in evidence.

Thinking:
Scenario A - The facts add up to what level of criminality for these people. (Those you can't prove it for, at this time, may become unindicted co-conspirators.) The lawyers (all sides) will argue this til the cows come home. The facts can be spun.

Scenario B - The working hypothesis or theory is supported by these facts. (These people had access, motive, intent and execution means and methods.) This is the public and inference/deduction counts more than the facts. The court of public opinion looms large because it can be told like a movie of the week story complete with villans, epic battles and hero (Wilson) fights for his lady love (Plame).

Be clear on which audience/scenario the bush administration/cabal et al, is working the refs on, at any particular time... If the facts are on your side play to the facts, if ya got a great story tell the story. Think Iraq, they sold the story, not the facts.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:13 AM
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13. This really ties things together, . Chaney is dirty.....LINK>>>
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 11:17 AM by sam sarrha
here is the dirt on Chaney. chaney did this to cover his criminal ass. he was involved in the production of the WMD's

http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:15 AM
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15. Link didn't work for me : (

And I love to read dirt so please help me to read it.

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:26 AM
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17. it is on Adobie Acrobat..pdf... try it a couple times/ then get freeware
you can get freeware... most computers already have it..

http://downloadcenter.com

type in 'free adobie acrobat download'
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:14 AM
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14. What big Boo-boo did Karl make just before, or during
the campaign's visit to NJ in late October '04? Why did Rove go and lie under the wheels of Airforce 1 on the tarmac before they left the state?

IMWTK
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:20 PM
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20. YES! why was he under that plane! I have forgotten

but I think it is a tip off as to the way he is wired.

He must act like a clown and get away with it at the WH.

They must think he is a crack up so he keeps on doing it to show off and get their attention.

Huuum, what was that leading up to the election?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:44 PM
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33. my initial thought
was that Rove had told GW that they could "take" NJ.. maybe they thought the machines were in more counties than they are (were?) and the NJ visit showed him to be wrong.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:22 AM
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16. He is a real character study in deception... So maybe we should study
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 11:25 AM by lonestarnot
some of his deception tactics: allegations from Bush's Brain movie: Bugged his own office in the White race, stole stationary and announced a grand opening of Al Dickson's office, which he handed out to homeless "damaging his office open", stacked debates with empty note cards to intimidate other teams into loss, has the hots for bushitler, in Robert Edgeworth's run for College Republican Nat'l Chairman, he created phony proxies, had Moeller and Rampton (sp?) imprisoned and ruined their political careers, not to mention their lives (one set of elderly parents died due to stress he caused) for lies and trumped up FBI "investigation"... same FBI agent who investigated bugging incident investigated individuals in the TX Dept of Ag, Hightower race for diversion of donated funds to Hightower race. So he has political enemies imprisoned, induced, blackmailed or whatever Rick Perry into changing parties...had knowledge of subpoenas prior to their being ISSUED, WTF?Hightower race, tutored bushitler on machinations of TX government, "What color of uniform will that cattle guard have on when I git there?" Bushitler quote re time of TX gov. race. real ranch hand there egh? Ran overt whisper campaigns re Ann Richards and lies that she was a lesbian, confronted a local reporter in front of National Press Core, ran overt whisper campaign in McCain v. Bush lies that McCain is mental, put fliers in windshield of cars at Churches that McCain had a "black love child" when McCain had legally adopted a little girl from Africa who had no parents, used 14 million to beat Max Cleland who had been blown up in Vietnam... offensive star, that Rover in this case, and that brings us to BREACHED NATIONAL SECURITY WITH OUTING OF CIA OFFICER, uses the word EVIL often to describe opponents "evil people" "evil they intend" Speech January 18, 2002 used war marketing devices to sell war "long time, alot of treasure, alot of lives." Pokorney family knows for sure their Dad's, Husband's life... gone!

Yeah I'd say RED ROVER You got it com'n to you! Sniveling cur dog!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:54 AM
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19. he is the product of a bullied child.. now he is doing the bullying and
is go'n way manic in the drunken stupor of power.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:29 PM
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21.  + for string of REAL DIRTY TRICKS

You have it all down!

"he has political enemies imprisoned, induced, blackmailed or whatever Rick Perry into changing parties...had knowledge of subpoenas prior to their being ISSUED, WTF?Hightower race, tutored bushitler on machinations of TX government,"


He could not do that acting alone. POOPPY is pulling these strings and opening these doors for him.


Wouldn't it be lovely to see POPPY and BABS( with her dirty little mind) go to jail too!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:06 PM
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38. EEEEEWWWW YE....AH!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:38 PM
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41. Wish the eeeeewwwwye...AH Doctor

would solve the mystery for them.

It would be such a blast to hear DEAN shout out during a Politically Correct interview with Wolf the Whore..... "EEEEEWWWW YE....AH! ROVE SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON AND PERJURY !!!!!"

Remember how they kept playing his yell over and over and over.
Bet they won't play that one.


I could sure get my arms around that yell!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:20 AM
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50.  Let's hope that Fitzgerald is our Columbo


If he can keep digging, he'll catch him in all the dirty tricks.


Please wipe this evil man out of this crime family.

If Karl goes, they will fall like ducks. He is there evil leader that controls what the Chimp's Crowd says and what the reporters can tell us.
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:27 AM
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18. Pray for The Espionage Act to apply
I just read a pretty convincing piece on Kos that spells out the Espionage Act. And seems fairly clear to me that Rove and several others in the Bush administration are guilty, guilty, guilty of breaking that law.

THIS could be the path that Fitzgerald is pursuing. Especially since he has been undermined in the past due to leaks in this White House. No wonder he's so determined.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:40 PM
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22. + Prayers for Fitzgerald and small planes

they don't take kindly to ANYONE that could bring down the Bush empire.

Watch,in a few days they will say that Fitzgerald had a Black Baby by Hallie Berry.


And to think that I use to believe that POPPY was just a weak President but not hurtful. Thank you DU for opening my eyes to the TRUTH.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 02:45 PM
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27. use his arrogance and confidence against him
He thinks he runs the world don't ya know ?

I think there is possibly, another who thinks
he runs the world , Cheney most likely .

How do you get Cheney and Rove to turn against each other ?
Let them destroy each other with their own arrogance IMHO.

Use their own Momentum and force them down to the ground .

Inertia

:think:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:02 PM
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28. Columbo would plant a thought in the mind of one of them


He would tell Cheney that ROVE spilled the beans on him.

Fitzgerald is holding most of the cards, if they don't have him catch a small plane.

How I wish there could be somebody inside that WH that could feel it their duty to tell the TRUTH.

Remember Martha Mitchell? I loved that lady, she knew they were crooks and she said it out loud! Then ,of course, she "got sick" and died quickly.


We need another Martha Mitchell.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:24 PM
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29. Exactly
:headbang:
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:35 PM
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32. Not a Brain Scientist ???
This man ran a campaign that got the majority of registered voters in this country to believe that the Nation would be safer militarily if they voted for someone who served in the National Guard(and his running mate who had other priorities over getting drafted and serving his country) instead of a voting for a man who jumped out of a small boat with his rifle and chased down an enemy combatant who was pointing a grenade launcher at him !!!!!!......if that's not the definition of an expert on the functioning of the human brain what is????

Where's our Brain Scientist ?????
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:56 PM
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34. This man had power, money and threats

running his entire empire.

It does not take a brain scientist to think of dirty tricks.

Unless he had a lot of cover from the MEDIA and POPPY (with his CIA connections) he would be just an ordinary scum republican.

I'll say it again, he is not a brain scientist, he is a bully with a backup posse.

That is what he is.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 05:15 PM
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35. Maybe so but....
We still need something. There should never be another "swiftie boat" episode in our future.....
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:07 PM
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39. He certainly is a dirty ass player!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:51 PM
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42. You got that right

But it is so much easier to play dirty with a bunch of like minded bullies on your team.

They are all cut rom the same cloth, including Colin Powell. I will never forget how he held up the photos and lied to the world. I will never give him any credit, he is just like them. A killer!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:56 PM
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48. Rove is a one trick pony. He repeats himself. Plus, he is braggart.
He is a danger not because he is so smart (his intelligence is pretty high but not that high). He is danger, because he is a criminal. He has broken the law many times. He gets away with it, because he has made himself useful to people in high places.


The real trick isn't figuring out what he will do. The real trick is making him a liability to *, so that * will be forced to get rid of him. The press hates Rove so much that they may well accomplish this.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:00 AM
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49. Good point, he is now "red meat"
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 10:00 AM by goclark

to the press, according to CNN( no less!)

So Columbo would be very happy with that turn of events. Have the other players assist in bringing one of the big criminals to justice.
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