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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:26 PM
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Suze Orman: Public Television Parasite
Wow she's a parasite.

It seems like the 2nd tier public television shows are continuously on pledge breaks, for her self-help financial crap.

Really it makes me wonder if these stations are worth saving.

They have these nation-wide pledge breaks within infomercials for whatever she's selling. I'm sure the free advertising more than pays for whatever write-offs she's getting.

Whats the difference between these sleazy infomercial PBS shows and just plain old TV?

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nine30 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:27 PM
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1. Can someone tie her hands please ?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:29 PM
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2. Verbals Somatic Material components
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 03:29 PM by Moochy
She's definitely casting spells on the PBS viewer.. Somatic gestures, for sure.

You are poor, so you need to spend $270 on a book that will make you NOT poor. (how much does PBS get from that?)


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nine30 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:34 PM
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3. The spellmeister
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 03:38 PM by nine30
I will admit I first get dizzy and then hypnotic as my eyes follow her hands. One time I fell off the couch onto the floor just in time to snap me awake, as I was about to reach for my credit card and the phone.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:42 PM
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9. Saving Throw!
You made your saving throw! :) (stupid D&D reference)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:36 PM
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7. Exactly. This basic fundamental of life needs to be taught at SCHOOL.
:dunce:

Money isn't privileged; we all have to live on it.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:34 PM
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4. But she seems so smart!
:sarcasm:

have a budget .... pay off you debts ..... invest money into diversified
"things" and remember be your own "best friend but be honest w/ yourself."
:puke:
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nine30 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:37 PM
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8. Smartest woman who ever walked.
" have a budget .... pay off you debts ..... "

DANG ! Now if only she could have a place in the Bush cabinet.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:45 PM
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11. I'd like to see her budget
Maybe she can get her own TV show, I hear Tomlinson is giving those out to all the hacks like Tucker Carlson.. or is he just failing on MSNBC?
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:35 PM
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5. I can't stand her
There's something incredibly incongruous about a woman in an expensive designer suit admonishing me to curtail my spending. According to her, we're all in financial doo doo because we like to go to Starbucks too much. Well okay, but given that this is now largely a consumer and service-based economy, if everyone takes her advice and all the Starbucks close down what then? No more crappy service jobs, no more poor suckers to shell out cash for her crappy obvious advice.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:44 PM
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10. Fake Phone Volunteers
How about all the fake volunteers?

Those Suze Orman pledge breaks are made nationally. taped delay. and I imagine is sent down via satellite or delivered as a package.

Nothing like fake volunteers to encourage the poor people to chuck 270 to this snake oil bitch.

More of the same on the way, Let's make PBS a profit center ok Tomlinson?

fuck pbs.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:52 PM
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13. IMO it's almost the opposite...
people get into deep financial shit because they leverage all of their current and projected income into debts masquarading as investments, e.g. that ginormous house at the extremum of their means, with no money for furnature to fill it. Then when times turn bad, they have trouble making those mortgage payments.

OTOH, if you got a modest house, well within your means, and frittered the rest of your income away on things like trips and eating out, then if bad times hit, there's a lot of fat in the budget than can be trimmed for leaner times...
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 05:29 PM
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17. I like Suze
She gives good advice on money, budgeting and living within your means while wearing expensive designer outfits. Why? Because she earned it!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 07:45 PM
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18. Budgeting advice is good, but infomercials for it on PBS?
I respect your opinion about Suze, but does every show she does on PBS need to be full of pledge breaks? It just seems a bit odd to have these infomercial-pledge-break shows on PUBLIC television.


cheers! :toast:
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:55 AM
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19. yeah ... you're right.
poor PBS, just doesn't know what to do with itself these days, with the Repug thugs in charge!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:36 PM
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6. On a related note, we stopped watching PBS kids
LeftyKid started going nuts everytime we went by a McDonalds, I couldn't figure out why- we're vegan, I don't think he's never been there. I found out he and his Dad were watching Sesame Street and a few other PBS shows as I got work done in the am and sure enough, guess who sponsors some of the shows? They have commericials too (although PBS doesn't call them that) and presumably that's where he learned that he wanted to go to McDonald's. As soon as we switched his viewing habits (turns out we like Noggin's morning shows better, and they're only commercials are for other children's shows, mostly they have music and stories between cartoons) we haven't had the problem with the screaming crying shit fits every time we pass the golden arches.

Nova is cool sometimes but since Bill Moyers retired I hardly watch PBS.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:48 PM
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12. Yeah, what's with the commercials?
I'm seeing more and more of them. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of "public television" dontcha think?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:58 PM
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15. KQED is the leader in commercial spots
They claim that these sponsor announcements are only 15 seconds.. which must have changed because KQED runs full 30 second car ads, that are indistinguishable from their commerical TV spots.

The sponsors add a small 5 second blurb about supporting PBS, and through the magic of brand synergy, they hope like crazy to get the two brands to fuck and create a marketing love-child on screen.

"Ooh I like this Audi-PBS thing, it reflects my values"
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:53 PM
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14. Heres a great link from 2000
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1747

Kind of long, but worth seeing their line on kids shows and advertising.

Thank you for your message to PBS about the underwriting of children's programming.

Public television is made possible by a remarkable public-private partnership involving individuals, businesses, state and federal governments, foundations and educational institutions. We are grateful to our underwriters for their generous support of our unique program service, which is used each week by 96 million Americans.

Federal statutes require that program underwriters be disclosed on the air at the time of a broadcast. PBS has strict guidelines for the underwriting announcements on our nationally distributed programs. Our independently owned and operated member stations are encouraged to follow these guidelines as well in their decisions regarding local underwriting announcements. PBS underwriting messages are limited to 15 seconds in duration and never interrupt programs.

PBS's national underwriting guidelines prohibit the promotion of any specific product or service (e.g., no price information, product comparisons, calls to action, or superlatives are allowed). We track the numerous FCC cases which interpret the word "advertisement" and know that PBS guidelines are invariably stricter than what the FCC would seem to allow. The federal statutes and regulations, as well as PBS guidelines, recognize that it is important and necessary to be able to identify underwriters by their specific products or services, without promoting them.

PBS has been parents' trusted television partner for nearly three decades. We take added measures to make sure underwriting announcements before and after children's programs do not evoke advertising messages that are commonly aimed at children on commercial stations. For example, if an underwriter is a product or service that would particularly appeal to children, we allow no depiction of that product, and any message directed toward children must be one of support for public television or for learning and education. Companies whose products or services are not intended to appeal to children, such as Pfizer underwriting Sesame Street, must follow our regular guidelines. We are pleased and gratified when such corporate funders choose to create underwriting spots that relate to the content of the program they are supporting while at the same time delivering a message directed to parents that is both appropriately informative and value-neutral as to its own features.

When it comes to judging whether or not a product is a good one for children to have or to want, we believe that decision is best made by parents. While there are categories that we exclude entirely from underwriting on our national broadcasts (such as firearms, tobacco and distilled spirits), every family has its own standards regarding what is suitable for children.

Finally, since your correspondence reflects that you are concerned about the commercial influence of television on children, we encourage you to help your local public television station obtain the resources it needs to continue to offer fine educational programs in a noncommercial environment. Only PBS member stations present curriculum-based programs accompanied by informative outreach materials to every American home commercial-free and free-of-charge. Obtaining the funds necessary to produce and promote these programs is a constant challenge. We welcome and need the assistance of every individual who desires to improve the children's television landscape.

Again, thank you for bringing your views to our attention. We hope we can work with you to fulfill our mission of ensuring that top quality, noncommercial, nonviolent, educational programming and services are available free of charge to every American child.

Sincerely,

PBS Viewer Services
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:53 PM
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16. So Marlboro, WInchester rifle and Jack Daniels can't sponsor Sesame Street
but anybody else can? WalMart? The RNC? NAMBLA? Anybody? NO responsibility for sponsor messages at all, they get to let anybody try to brainwash my four year old, then I have to try to explain why company X isn't cool- while Sesame Street is on and the poor kid just wants to watch Super Grover? Fuck that.

Great. Today's Sesame Street is sponsored by Ritalin, the US Army and The Bin Ladin Construction Group. Have fun Moms.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:58 AM
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20. The Preachy Pontificator..
:puke: She's the financial equivalent to Dr. Phil (only with more hair)
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