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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:15 PM
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Julianne Malveaux called Bush a terrorist and USA a terrorist nation.
Now, what she was trying to say but, Mr. Hannity would not address the true meaning of her statement. She was talking about how this country raped and murdered in order to take control of the soil. For example, the Indians, and Tulsa OK, were two examples she used to point out how the country was taken over. But, Hannity kept spinning it asking, are the troops terrorist.

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Semi-regular USA Today columnist Julianne Malveaux said Monday that President Bush is "a terrorist" and that America is "a terrorist nation."


I found the comments made by the Freepers to be very interesting.

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To: wagglebee
Dear mz. Malveaux:

If true & you truely believe this, how can you, in good conscience, stay here. GET OUT!

I hear there is land available in Zimbabwe...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1440825/posts


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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:18 PM
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1. Funny, they didn't think like that
when Clinton was in office, and they were all convinced the country was ruined, and that a civil war would break out any day.
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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:18 PM
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2. Good for her. n/t
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:22 PM
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3. I don't think we are a terrorist nation----we are in the middle of
a big,fat mess but we can hardly be called terrorists.

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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:24 PM
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4. There is a good percentage of us that can be.
Either specifically causing these "terrorist acts" for their own gain or not standing up against it for the repercussions, social and/or economical that would occur if they did.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:47 PM
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8. No....


Bombing the shit out of children is not considered 'terrorism' under the propaganda you feed off - the information and data the manipulates how you look at the world.

Bottom line is... every day is a London bombing for the people of Iraq. Americans are raping this country.

The cleaning out of the museums being one of the most horrific acts that resemble the torching of Alexandria more than anything.


The Smash of Civilizations
By Chalmers Johnson

In the months before he ordered the invasion of Iraq, George Bush and his senior officials spoke of preserving Iraq's "patrimony" for the Iraqi people. At a time when talking about Iraqi oil was taboo, what he meant by patrimony was exactly that -- Iraqi oil. In their "joint statement on Iraq's future" of April 8, 2003, George Bush and Tony Blair declared, "We reaffirm our commitment to protect Iraq's natural resources, as the patrimony of the people of Iraq, which should be used only for their benefit."<1> In this they were true to their word. Among the few places American soldiers actually did guard during and in the wake of their invasion were oil fields and the Oil Ministry in Baghdad. But the real Iraqi patrimony, that invaluable human inheritance of thousands of years, was another matter. At a time when American pundits were warning of a future "clash of civilizations," our occupation forces were letting perhaps the greatest of all human patrimonies be looted and smashed.

There have been many dispiriting sights on TV since George Bush launched his ill-starred war on Iraq -- the pictures from Abu Ghraib, Fallujah laid waste, American soldiers kicking down the doors of private homes and pointing assault rifles at women and children. But few have reverberated historically like the looting of Baghdad's museum -- or been forgotten more quickly in this country.

Teaching the Iraqis about the Untidiness of History

In archaeological circles, Iraq is known as "the cradle of civilization," with a record of culture going back more than 7,000 years. William R. Polk, the founder of the Center for Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Chicago, says, "It was there, in what the Greeks called Mesopotamia, that life as we know it today began: there people first began to speculate on philosophy and religion, developed concepts of international trade, made ideas of beauty into tangible forms, and, above all developed the skill of writing."<2> No other places in the Bible except for Israel have more history and prophecy associated with them than Babylonia, Shinar (Sumer), and Mesopotamia -- different names for the territory that the British around the time of World War I began to call "Iraq," using the old Arab term for the lands of the former Turkish enclave of Mesopotamia (in Greek: "between the rivers").<3> Most of the early books of Genesis are set in Iraq (see, for instance, Genesis 10:10, 11:31; also Daniel 1-4; II Kings 24).

The best-known of the civilizations that make up Iraq's cultural heritage are the Sumerians, Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Parthians, Sassanids, and Muslims. On April 10, 2003, in a television address, President Bush acknowledged that the Iraqi people are "the heirs of a great civilization that contributes to all humanity."<4.> Only two days later, under the complacent eyes of the U.S. Army, the Iraqis would begin to lose that heritage in a swirl of looting and burning.

In September 2004, in one of the few self-critical reports to come out of Donald Rumsfeld's Department of Defense, the Defense Science Board Task Force on Strategic Communication wrote: "The larger goals of U.S. strategy depend on separating the vast majority of non-violent Muslims from the radical-militant Islamist-Jihadists. But American efforts have not only failed in this respect: they may also have achieved the opposite of what they intended."<5> Nowhere was this failure more apparent than in the indifference -- even the glee -- shown by Rumsfeld and his generals toward the looting on April 11 and 12, 2003, of the National Museum in Baghdad and the burning on April 14, 2003, of the National Library and Archives as well as the Library of Korans at the Ministry of Religious Endowments. These events were, according to Paul Zimansky, a Boston University archaeologist, "the greatest cultural disaster of the last 500 years." Eleanor Robson of All Souls College, Oxford, said, "You'd have to go back centuries, to the Mongol invasion of Baghdad in 1258, to find looting on this scale."<6> Yet Secretary Rumsfeld compared the looting to the aftermath of a soccer game and shrugged it off with the comment that "Freedom's untidy. . . . Free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes."<7>


SNIP

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=4710

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:28 PM
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5. Now this comment proves how evil the freeepers are:
Throw her out of the country. Send her back to Africa and see if she likes it there any better.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:35 PM
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6. They love Condi. Who knew the'Bama girl would choose bigots for allies?
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:36 PM
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7. predictable response from freeper filth......
...after all, freepers are terrorists.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:18 PM
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9. Question is did she really say that or are they embellishing?
n/t
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