Most Conservative/NeoCon Places to live?

Well, I have been to several places that felt like Plesantville when it was still in Black and White and no one was eating red apples but you have to spend a few days in a town before you get a feel for the number of Stepford Wife types their are. These places stick out in my mind.

Grand Junction, Colorado - I work for a company that is based in GJ and EVERYONE!!!!! is a Bush lover!!! I am based in New Mexico but ALL my co-workers in Grand Junction listen to Rush and Hannity. The kind of people who think Deep Throat should have gone to jail.

Some others in Colorado: Rifle, Delta, Rangely, Hayden, Craig etc.

Farmington, New Mexico - This is a rural Oil Town where Halliburton is one of the biggest employers. Lots of Red Necks! Some other red towns in New Mexico: Roswell, Hobbs, Clovis, Carlsbad etc.

These towns in Utah, just to name a few (Utah is so Red it puts the former Soviet Union to shame): Blanding, Manti, Monticello, Price, Vernal, Kanab etc. etc. Basically every town accept Indian Reservation towns are red in Utah.

even 20 years ago,when I used to live there.Every home had a nanny and a maid(in my son's school)-but none of the moms worked.You couldn't park a pick-up in front of your house in some subdivisions.I lived in an apartment in this exclusive neighborhood,which killed these people because their kids had to go to school with commoners and people of "different races".I moved after my lease was up because I couldn't stand those phony,self-righteous "Christians".

Uncanny! You didn't have a neighbor named Terri, did you? LOL! She moved from Plano for precisely the same reason. Indeed, she was a lesbian and lived with her girlfriend, and she said life was hell for them in Plano.

No-I was too busy working 2 jobs so I could get the f* out of there.They should post warning signs when you enter those neighborhoods...

tormenting the conservatives. :evilgrin:

Plus, the demographics are slowly changing. The kool-aid drinkers are fleeing further and further north, and there are signs that the city of Plano will one day be a very diverse community.

I remember reading an article several months ago, not sure of the details but they went by percentages of GOP vs Dems etc. Also, South Central Pa is headquarters for one of the branches of Arian Nation ( it split in two not long ago) , Harrisburg-Lancaster area has Skin Head headquarters for state and I think the general area is listed for first or second for Nazi groups - more information on "hate Groups" is available through the Southern Poverty Law Center. Pa. I think Pa is tied or in top 3 in nation for White Supremecy groups such as the Nazi, Skinheads and Arian Nation. Likewise, Lancaster county is very conservative wih various bible groups. Talk Radio is all hate all the time, but they will shout you down if you question them on it. This is the area of the state that believes the wacko senator "Santorum" is great leader.

I couldn't believe the amount of Bush stickers I saw there.

I didn't know there was a Farmington in OK.

Ugh.

...and seen us in Oklahoma! :)

We were making our way back to Minnesota from Colorado and took a wrong turn, winding up in Grainfield, KS before we knew it and had to take "the back country roads" to North Platte. I saw lots of "cowboys" on the road.

These are entire towns or areas, not just suburbs...

Pensacola FL
Naples FL (more old rich GOP, but GOP anyway)
Jacksonville FL
Greenville SC
Bentonville AR
Springfield MO
Lancaster PA
Tulsa OK
Wichita KS
West Texas: Big Spring, Midland, and Amarillo stand out.
Let's throw in a college town for good luck: College Station TX

I agree with you, that there is, however, nothing quite as intellectually desolate as West Texas, Little Texas, and non-SLC Utah.

I used to live off of F road. I could tell so many horror stories about that place. Meth, radical religious movements involving cult phenomenon and believe in super powers, girls all getting married at 19 and fucking around within two months. A moral Abyss. The only place I have ever heard a satanic radiostation because the christians are so annoying.

You may never escape!

area in the nation. In the last election almost 90% of the vote went to Bush. Most of the towns you list are in the south or east of Utah, they tend to be slightly more diverse culturally (i.e. a higher population of non-mormons). Price in particular has a strong Union tradition and still votes Dem. Not that anyone would confuse a Democrat elected in Utah with a liberal or progressive.

Stepford in the flesh

I can't believe MY town is defiled by all these right-wing lunatics who are more concerned with their own pocketbooks than the well-being of the world. Luckily, though I know they're out there, I don't see many around.

Don't forget we're the second library system in the country to adopt the Orwellian fingerprint scanners, because you know so many TERRAISTS are going to use public library for their TERRA needs.

How are you familiar with the area? Do you live here too?

Almost the rest of the county is Blue, but these guys are monied assholes that use our streets and our infrastructure without paying taxes. (Chaney had a house here just before 2000 - oh that's right he was from Wyoming - yeah right.) Bush is going to move there when he's either impeached or makes it through all 8 years, H. Ross Perot, and a whole bunch of rich guys you've never heard of.

(Oh, and Richard Condon lived there, he wrote "Pritizi's Honor" and "The Manchurian Candidate" -only lib I knew that lived there, and he despised the place. When he wrote about it in "Emperor Of America", it was an acid parody of HP.)

<Got you beat Mr. S? Probably not, but my dad went to college in Naperville. WAY long ago. I'm sure it's changed, now freeperville.>

Of course -if Highland park is the alpha of conservatives,Ellis county(where I live) has to be the omega-nothing but uneducated NASCAR fans-but they DO pay taxes....and we DO have a small chapter of Drinking Liberally,so all is not lost.

Well, Ellis is different that Dallas or even Tarrant counties.

There is nothing wrong with that, as a matter of fact, I feel closer to the "county" people than I do to the PARK CITIES people. Aren't they special?

I live in "Old East Dallas" which turns up in the DMN as where people just got shot. If you or I drive an old enough car into HP/UP we'll be arrested for not having a good enough car! And you know that's true.

I love the people that hang out there...they are such free spirits...

...'cause I gave up Deep Ellum about 10 years ago.
:cry:

But in my day ... LOL ... what a good place. Just too many cops sometimes.

Or not enough cops, depending on your point of view at the time.

Nope, me and the old lady stick to Lakewood now, with a bunch of old farts like ourselves, and just love it.

Horrible.. North of Saratoga Springs
I'm from Minnesota and this place is the worst I've been.
Stupidity reins. W stickers everywhere.
given there are the Democratic groups trying to change things..but, it is hard to believe..
You would think with it's past of being heavy industry ..they would get it. But nooooo....NYC gets the blame for all their troubles.

for a breath of liberal air!

:)

In the '04 election, Kerry actually won St. Louis county by a 56/44 margin IIRC.

West County is a different story however. They call this area the Beverly Hills of St. Louis. You'll typically see lots of large SUV's sporting W'04 stickers, and McMansions far and wide.

I've been to Naperville, IL before and I'd have to say that West St. Louis county is a carbon copy.

West County...:crazy:

Used to be a different place. Alot of money has migrated to that area, which probably explains alot.

Rush is on 24 hr a day.

It's Republican but not too overwhelmingly. But if you go just like 10 miles west you can almost feel it getting more conservative. The closer you get to Texas the more overwhelmingy Republican it gets. You go north though, to Lake Charles and it's pretty 50/50. Former Congresswoman Willy Mount (D) was mayor for 8 years there and she did wonders for that city. Ashame David Vitter narrowly defeated her in the Senate race. I'd love to see her return back to Congress in 06 though.

and I remember people worrying about the future of America because Jimmy Carter had just been elected president, to the point that they were worried about the survival of the country. Being very young and from Georgia, this attitude mystified me. I wasn't aware of what Utah was like before that.

So, yeah - an extremely red, red, red place.

Actually, the whole state is Republican controlled. Roy Moore hails from Alabama, and the whole court system is pure Republican. Both the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court are 100% Republican.

I'll also add another vote for Orange County, California, and Colorado... various parts of Florida... Plano, Texas too - yes - Dallas, too (Plano is a suburb of Texas).

Shelby County Alabama. Very rich.

Home of Dick DeVos, Amway scion and 2006 Republican gubenatorial candidate and his contemptable bitch of a wife Betsy, former chairmonster of the Michian Republican Party.

Seat of the Christian Reformed Church, which is a very hard-core, right wing Christian fundamentalist church.

Everything in West Michigan is infused with Jesus-this and Jesus-that and Republicanism run amok. Many mainstream businesses in this area cow-tow to the religious extremists and are not open in Sundays.

It's funny, though, currently, the city of Grand Rapids has a democratic mayor who used to be the pastor of one of the UCC churches in the area. When we first moved there, Grand Rapids had a moderate republican mayor, who was an african-american (Lyman Parks).

The city is getting pretty liberal/democrat, and the old money dutch are moving to Ada, Cascade, and other suburban communities. I will give this for GR-there are no really bad neighborhoods. There's two iffy ones-the area immediately west of downtown, and South Division AVE just south of downtown. Even those don't compare to a good part of the city of Detroit. GR has done the historic preservation thing very well, and has well-maintained beautiful old buildings.

The whole Gerald Ford thing makes me laugh-the GOP there act like Ford was their kind of republican, and he wasn't. He was a pro-choice moderate.

I'll never hate GR for two reasons: Yesterdog and Schuler Books.

I was born in Grand Rapids and returned for college and a few years after college. Very conservative! I wasn't allowed to mow my lawn on Sunday and the washers/dryers in my apartment complex were locked up on Sunday - some of that reformed/calvinist stuff I've never understood.

That being said, there are wonderful things about Grand Rapids and two of them are Yesterdog and Schuler Books! I couldn't agree more but I'll add the Beltline Bar to that list.

A little Italain deli/pizza place down on Bridge Street, west of downtown. It's heaven....

but after living in Boston for the last 15 years, you couldn't pay me enought to move back. I get the heebies whenever I'm back there visiting my family.

And on and on and on .....

I read that over 90 percent of the people there are Republican.

and it's the home of James Dobson and Focus on the Family

there.

I don't get it..

for reunion. Love my friends, but had to dig my nails into my palms
most horrifically when the subject of the "election" came up. I KNEW it had been stolen; and they spoke of John Kerry as though HE were the draft-dodging train wreck, not W.
I politely ( but painfully) held my tongue...just like Mommy taught me.
Jeebus, the STUPIDITY was astonishing!!!!

White folks, Fundies, Repugs and Racists.

Very blue

plenty of red here in nj...not where i'm from (my town is like 6-to-1 dem), but in the northwest counties (e.g. morris, warren, sussex, hunterdon). some of them are fundies, but a lot of them are just rich snots. lots of money, stepford wives, kids in prep schools. and there's plenty of red in some of the southern counties too. we're just lucky those places have less people than the blue counties.

it's probably not as bad as red areas in red states, but at least you're used to it if you live in a red state.

My grandparents lived there for years and I must say, that is one shitty little town. Sage brush, oil rigs, flat as a pancake, no zoning laws (apparently), lots of tough guy rednecks, and college football is the big entertainment. On the other hand, I got to go to northern New Mexico a few times and that is gorgeous!

In fact, the whole eastern part of the state is culturally closer to Texas than it is to New Mexico. If we gained El paso and lost the eastern part of the state, we'd never go red again.

It concerned a punk rocker named Brian Deneke who was repeatedly run over by a high school kid driving a Cadillac and killed - his skull was crushed under the tire. The killer was a HS football player who got 10 years of probation.

It appeared to be the reddest city in America.

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Which is the #1 reason I don't venture outside I-285 if I can help it.

Any place that would elect Gingrich over and over and over again. Sheesh. The only reason my parents liked living there was being able to vote against the creep. After they retired, they left faster than you can say 'Impeach Bush'.

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Christian Reformed Calvinist like Grand Rapids MI. Nothing open Sundays. Hard to find bars in some towns. No Dem has the remotest chance of winning office.

You should see their local paper. The "religion" section outweighs most everything else.

NOW I live in, get this, Moore, Oklahoma. I think it's even righter than Clovis.