Iraq pics in an email that pissed me off

Okay I got this from my Mom. She thinks FAUX is the only balanced news source. OMG! I know it sux.

Anyway this just takes the cake.
I got this forwarded email from her with the below text and pics.
First off I didn't realize that Iraqis knew how to write english...my bad. And second off...isn't getting them home the best "gift" we can give?

People like my Mom think that there is just so much good going on over there that doesn't get covered because the "liberal" media wants Bu$h to fail.

I am sickened that my dear Mom believes this way but I don't debate her anymore. It's my Mom fer god's sakes.
Sad. ;(
Am I overeacting?

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Too Shocking & Graphic for the Mainstream Media











Subject: Photos that will never make the news.....













Please pass the pictures on. Sometimes in our everyday lives we tend to forget what's going on elsewhere in the world and that the brave men and women of the service are just like you and I. They have family and friends back home who love them very much and are praying for their safe return.


PLEASE KEEP THIS GOING EVEN IF YOU HAVE PASSED IT ON BEFORE

When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer for our troops (land, air, and sea) in Afghanistan, Kuwait, Iraq, and around the world. There is nothing attached....... This can be very powerful......Just send this to people in your address book. Do not stop the wheel, please....


Of all the gifts you could give the US Military, Prayer is the very best one.....

I know it's sad that someone so close to you is in such a state of denial. It would be useless to try to debate her about this. I have a few family members who hold the same position; I have had to separate my love for them from the delusions they hold. I think of them as being in a "cult". They can't help it, and if they woke up tomorrow realizing the truth, it would be too devastating for them.

Can someone remember where? As I recall the kid was dying and was a bloody mess, parents had been shot by U.S. troops or something like that.

Check out the line between the soldier and the kid he's 'leaning against.' it's all blurry. Check out the kid kneeling in front. His head has an edge, and the sharpness is different, like his picture was taken in indoor light.

Wow. I think I'll go over them all a little closer...

What good are the school supplies if the kid is killed a few days later?





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I'm nearly certain that the pic with the soldier petting the cat is actually from an Israel, not Iraq. And the soldier depicted is Israeli not US or any "Coalition". His red boots are the same as those worn by the IDF paratroopers (I don't know of any US units that wears red into combat). Not to mention the style of his helmet and color of the BDU is indicative of the IDF's not the US or that of any other "Coalition" forces with which I'm familiar.

I know its a minor point and there are loads of other nauseating things associated with the email, but it does go to the credibility, motive, and intelligence of the sender if the pictures they're sending around aren't even from the right conflict.

Olive IDF uniform.

They're radically different than the ones in the other pictures. Footwear is pretty standard in the US Military, and an off the shelf boot like that isn't part of the uniform anymore.

I get the same BS all the time from family and friends. It is so frustrating to be confronted with what at this point has to be considered willful ignorance of the true facts in Iraq.

It totally pisses me off when I get the these "patriotic" forwarded e mail in my in box, those on the right just love to believe everything is sunshine and roses there.

iraq doesnt look like that anymore. i doubt you can find a place to take a picture now there isnt filth and wires hanging down, blown up cars or walls with bullet holes

i would like for iraq to be like that. i would like for us to have put iraq together and working on infrastructure and all good. it just isnt. pulling pictures from the first days of occupation isnt going to make it so.

Very nice penmanship.

we were there to help them. Notice some of the soldiers are wearing forest green. That makes them easier targets.

Thumbs up means fuck you. The kids are smiling because they are being naughty.

the soldier with the cat is not a US soldier.

Geez, lots of assholes pray. The 9/11 hijackers probably did a lot of praying that day. I'm not sure what that's supposed to tell us about the occupation force.

But I do see a black book in the foreground that might be a Bible.

I'm just saying, with the obvious misrepresentations of the other photos, including out-and-out fakes... you have to consider other scenarios.

They could've happened five minutes after the arrival of US troops for all we know. I think one or two of those were debunked.

right after the initial invasion.

Glantz, a reporter for Pacifica Radio, said he even started questioning his own assumptions about the war in those early days. Then, according to Glantz, things got fucked up real fast and Iraqi sentiment turned against America because we hadn't restored basic services, Abu Grahib, Fallujah etc.

Check out this recent interview with him:

http://www.againstthegrain.org/ (it's the 7-12-05 show)

Here's a synopsis of his book "How America Lost Iraq" (http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_1585424269,00.html)

A reporter in Iraq shows how the U.S. squandered its early victories and goodwill among the Iraqi people, and allowed the newly freed society to slip into violence and chaos.

As a reporter for the staunchly antiwar Pacifica Radio, twenty-seven-year-old Aaron Glantz had spent much of early 2003 warning of catastrophe if the U.S. invaded Iraq. But, as he watched the statue of Saddam topple, he wondered whether he had been mistaken: In interviews with regular Iraqis, he found wide support for the Americans.

Then, public opinion changed.

In early 2004, the U.S. military initiated a completely unprovoked bombing campaign against the population of Fallujah, increasing support for an armed resistance. The attack confounded many anti-Saddam Iraqis, and plunged the nation into chaos. In How America Lost Iraq, Glantz tells his story of working on the front lines, while revealing truths that most media outlets have missed or failed to report. For instance, 50 percent of the U.S.-trained Iraqi army has either mutinied or refused to fight; the Iraqi public has sustained appalling civilian casualties; corporate contractors including Halliburton and Bechtel have failed to supply Iraqis with the basic necessities of daily life, such as clean water and electricity; and a respected poll shows that 82 percent of Iraqis want the U.S. to leave.

Here is the brutally honest account of a reporter who discovered how popular the U.S. presence was in Iraq-and who then watched this popularity disappear as the Bush administration mishandled the war, leaving us with the intractable conflict we face today.

I think things could turn really different if Bush and his group handled things differently. I don't know why they let things get so chaotic. :shrug: But I heard that guy on Bernie Ward's show once and he did a very good interview. He told how the public in Iraq did start turning when the electricity and water was gone. Of course I would be the same way.

And I'll become a true believer.

Anymore help on debunking this tripe is appreciated.

- 98 dead in single truck bomb yesterday....not on CNN and other MSM.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050717/wl_nm/iraq_dc

that the little girl's whole family had just been killed by American troops. I read the story that went with the pic on msn news a couple years ago.

I remember reading he himself debunked it as well. He's a doctor and was trying to help save the little girl cause she was losing a lot of blood and all her other family had just been killed. You can tell from the words he used that he was really upset by that photo.

pure propaganda. I'm sorry but you are spreading it throughout DU for thousands of people/freepers to copy and further the "Good" news.
That's what you get when you watch Fox.

I Googled the text and it has been in FreeperVille for a while already.
Hell, that is where it originated!

these photos to your mom. especially the israeli soldier pic and the soldier with the baby of the family he (not him specifically, but generally) just blew away. those debunking here might be able to link to support for the debunk.

my s/o has a cousin-in-law who has sent me a couple of things like this . . . specifically he sent me the email about hillary refusing to meet with gold star moms. i replied to him (actually i 'replied to all' :evilgrin: ) with the link to gold star moms website where they had posted that this was untrue. needless to say, he doesn't send me any pro-bush propaganda anymore.

try the truth. it will make you feel better and may make your mom think. btw, make sure you 'reply to all'.

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The same people who pass these sorts of photos around were angry about Michael Moore's Iraq montage Farenheit 9-11. You know- the one with Iraqi children flying kites and playing on swingsets.

Send some of the other pictures.

doesn't look to happy does she? If she was really happy for Bush wouldn't she at least be smiling? That really stuck out to me.

They take pictures like that all the time, they are all posed. The Iraqi civilians are bribed with either food or cash and they have no idea what they are doing. For instance, handing out "school supplies" would be something that falls under the jurisdiction of Civil Affairs Units in the U.S. Army. So why does Psychological Operations and Civil Affairs fall under the same command? Psychological Operations duties are to disseminate propaganda and in many cases they are distributing this propaganda to the American public.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/ca-psyop.htm

up for the hell that was brought to the Iraqi people. Toys will not assure that the Iraq children have a happy future. Children live 'in the moment'and I'm sure they are happy to get some little tokens. How will they feel when they grow older and realize the devastation Bush brought to their country.

freedom fighters(insurgents).

Iraq under false pretenses. To fight an unjust war.The Soldiers/Marines in these photos are just trying to maintain some humanity in a horible situation they have little or no control over.

I don't agree with your mothers email but it's not the troops fault they are there. It's ours.

it's Bu$h's and his supporters.

Bring them home NOW!

Hindsight is 20-20, but most of us could have done more to try and stop the war. "Bring them home now" ....it would have been easier not to send them in the first place.

As Americans we all hold some responsibility for what has happened in Iraq.

You can see the "ailasing" on the kid's arm, clearly it was placed there electronically. Also the shirt-sleeves are different.

in one ear and out another.

circa 1970. That didn't mean that Mai Lai wasn't happening at the same time. The longer we stay, the more hardened troops become, the more prison abuse type situations occur, the more resentment builds against Americans.

Give your mom this quote back:

Had we gone into Baghdad -- we could have done it, you guys could have done it, you could have been there in 48 hours -- and then what? Which sergeant, which private, whose life would be at stake in perhaps a fruitless hunt in an urban guerilla war to find the most-secure dictator in the world? Whose life would be on my hands as the commander-in-chief because I, unilaterally, went beyond the international law, went beyond the stated mission, and said we're going to show our macho? We're going into Baghdad. We're going to be an occupying power -- America in an Arab land -- with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous.

George H W Bush 1996

An Israeli with a kitten. Nice kitten. Nice Israeli, for that matter. But it's got F-all to do with Iraq.

A two-year-old, dipped in blood. I could have made it through the day without recalling that one.

A bunch of fake signs. What's the point?

A huddle-prayer, or a very serious game of "telephone". Who the hell really knows? But a festival of joy, it ain't.

Some kids, some troops, a guy sniffing a letter. I don't know the guy. It's not polite to speculate about things like that.

But there's a genuine heart-breaker in that bunch.

People did put together school kits for the children. Sincere people, and they really meant well, too. And it was one of the very, very, very FEW things that the troops could do and really be feeling good about, because it actually did mean something to the kids.

But there's a very unfunny thing about guerrilla insurgencies. They tend to close the schools at lightspeed, everywhere.

So, if there's a picture in that bunch that says anything about the troops' and the best of people's good intentions gone right off the rails, it's that picture of the soldiers, and the school kits, and the kids.

And as for things of that kind in Vietnam, yes, there were such things. And I truly hope that unlike so many of those photographs, these troops and kids are still alive, somewhere.