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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:48 PM
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Bush committed another crime today, in plain sight, on National TV
Bush: Aides Who 'Committed a Crime' Will Be Fired

By James Gerstenzang, Times Staff Writer


July 18, 2005

WASHINGTON -- President Bush, whose White House is facing increasing pressure in the investigation of the public identification of a covert CIA operative, said today that he would fire anyone found to have committed a crime.

Last year, he had said he would fire anyone who had leaked such information. Thus, his remarks today appeared to shift his standard, allowing continued service in his administration until the commission of a crime had been established, rather than simply the determination that classified information had been leaked.

Link:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-071805leak_lat,0,2743579.story?coll=la-home-headlines


At today's White House press briefing not only was the key question asked (yet again) but the response highlights an ongoing crime.

Q What is his problem? Two years, and he can't call Rove in and find out what the hell is going on? I mean, why is it so difficult to find out the facts? It costs thousands, millions of dollars, two years, it tied up how many lawyers? All he's got to do is call him in.

MR. McCLELLAN: You just heard from the President. He said he doesn't know all the facts. I don't know all the facts.

Q Why?

MR. McCLELLAN: We want to know what the facts are. Because --

Q Why doesn't he ask him?

Link:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/07/20050718-2.html


Why, indeed. It was Mr Bush's responsibility on or before July 14, 2003 to have done exactly that - call Rove in and ask.

Congressman Waxman clearly understands the ongoing criminality of Bush's behavior. In fact, the same applies to Cheney given that Libby reports to him.

738 Days

by Bill Scher


July 18, 2005

It has been 738 days since Karl Rove violated his obligations under Standard Form 312 without the White House taking “corrective action.”

SF-312 is also known as the "Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement," which White House officials with national security clearances have to sign.

You can read more about SF-312 in this fact sheet PDF from Rep. Henry Waxman:
http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050715140232-17725.pdf


Story at the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/bill-scher/738-days_4335.html

Relevant section from Congressman Waxman's fact sheet:

THE WHITE HOUSE OBLIGATIONS UNDER EXECUTIVE ORDER 12958

Under the executive order, the White House has an affirmative obligation to investigate and take remedial action separate and apart from any ongoing criminal investigation. The executive order specifically provides that when a breach occurs, each agency must "take appropriate and prompt corrective action." (see Reference, below) This includes a determination of whether individual employees improperly disseminated or obtained access to classified information.

The executive order further provides that sanctions for violations are not optional. The executive order expressly provides: "Officers and employees of the United States Government … shall be subject to appropriate sanctions if they knowingly, willfully, or negligently … disclose to unauthorized persons information properly classified."

There is no evidence that the White House complied with these requirements.

Reference:

Executive Order No. 12958, Classified National Security Information (as amended), sec. 4.1(a) (Mar. 28, 2003) (online at www.archives.gov/isoo/policy_documents/executive_order_ 12958_amendment.html).


As of today, July 18, 2005, Mr Bush (and, apparently Mr Cheney in Libby's case) has violated Executive Order 12958 a total of 738 times. And, he has stated on national TV that he intends to continue violating Executive Order 12958 given that he claims he will do nothing until the independent investigation identifies a crime.

And, Mr Bush's continued violation of Executive Order 12958 is corroborated by his Press Secretary, Mr Scott McClellan in an exchange with a member of the press. Ms Hunt's question entails precisely Mr Bush's responsibility under Executive Order 12958, and Mr McClellan confirms that Mr Bush has not done what he should have done on July 14, 2003, if not sooner.

Mr Fitzgerald undoubtedly is familiar with Executive Order 12958.




Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:53 PM
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1. Wow. Great stuff. Then again,
they're also required to give an accounting of costs and progress in Iraq...
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:56 PM
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3. Yes, indeed. They began breaking that law on July 11, 2005
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:55 PM
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2. Did I hear a "flipflop?" n/t
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:21 PM
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25. Why yes I think you did....
Funny how the story evolves and changes.

First fire anyone involved then...
Fire anyone committing a crime....

Well gee, if they committed a crime of treason then they would be in jail, so what would be the point in firing them?

This administration will drag this out until *'s term is complete, and then it won't make in difference. Because the real aim for me is to get the SOB impeached.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 12:34 AM
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44. That is what is so retarded about his new 'position'.
"Well gee, if they committed a crime of treason then they would be in jail, so what would be the point in firing them?"
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:58 PM
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4. VERY good info. Spread it indeed! Folks who have not written a LTTE
of their local papers this month should start writing! If you paper does allow more than one letter per month by be same person to be published, go on and write your second LTTE for July!

Write to other papers which have not already published a LTTE from you.

Call your reps in Washington and make them aware that the issue is of the utmost importance to you and you expect they will take action on it immediately! Let them know it has gone on long enough and that for the protection of troops abroad and folks at home, we must get those who leak information just to punish people who point out administration dishonesty OUT OF GOVERNMENT!

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:59 PM
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5. kicked and nominated
:kick: :kick:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:00 PM
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6. Congressman Waxman writes Bush, today!
Glad to see Congressman Waxman wasted no time informing Mr Bush of Executive Order 19958!!

Waxman: New Bush Statement on Rove Conflicts with Executive Order

Author: Rep. Henry A. Waxman


Published on July 18, 2005, 12:22

Dear Mr. President:

In June 2004, you said that you would fire anyone found to be involved in the disclosure of Valerie Wilson's identity as a covert CIA agent.1 Today, you significantly changed your position, stating that you would remove Karl Rove or other White House officials involved in the security breach only "if someone committed a crime."2

Your new standard is not consistent with your obligations to enforce Executive Order 12958, which governs the protection of national security secrets. The executive order states: "Officers and employees of the United States Government ... shall be subject to appropriate sanctions if they knowingly, willfully, or negligently ... disclose to unauthorized persons information properly classified."3 Under the executive order, the available sanctions include "reprimand, suspension without pay, removal, termination of classification authority, loss or denial of access to classified information, or other sanctions."4

Under the executive order, you may not wait until criminal intent and liability are proved by a prosecutor. Instead, you have an affirmative obligation to take "appropriate and prompt corrective action."5 And the standards of proof are much different. A criminal violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, which Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald is investigating, requires a finding that Mr. Rove "intentionally disclose" the identity of a covert agent.6 In contrast, the administrative sanctions under Executive Order 12958 can be imposed without a finding of intent. Under the express terms of the executive order, you are required to impose administrative sanctions – such as removal of office or termination of security clearance – if Mr. Rove or other officials acted "negligently" in disclosing or confirming information about Ms. Wilson's identity.7

I have enclosed a fact sheet on Karl Rove's Nondisclosure Agreement and its legal implications, which provides additional detail about the President's national security obligations. I urge you to act in compliance with Executive Order 12958 and your responsibility to safeguard national security secrets.

Sincerely,

Henry A. Waxman
Ranking Minority Member


1 Press Conference: President Discusses Job Creation With Business Leaders (Sept. 30, 2003).
2 Bush: CIA Leaker Would Be Fired if Crime Committed, Reuters (July 18, 2005); Bush: Any Criminals in Leak to Be Fired, Associated Press (July 18, 2005).
3 Executive Order 12958, sec. 5.5(b).
4 Id. at sec. 5.5(c).
5 Id. at sec. 5.5(e).
6 50 U.S.C. sec. 421(a).
7 Executive Order 12958, sec. 5.5(b).


Way to go, Congressman Waxman!!


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us


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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:00 PM
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7. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy
Said enemy being a known traitor to our country. Thus committing treason himself.

When do you start showing loyalty to the citizens of your country, mr. *bush?
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:13 PM
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8. Recommended
:woohoo:


:kick:
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:18 PM
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9. Thank you! - That makes more sense than anything I've read yet on this...
That cuts through all the "did he or didnt he" crap...gets down to legal nuts and bolts...

Bush is in charge...the buck stops there...they act as if Bush doesnt even exist in all this.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 12:30 AM
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42. It's that old stupidity act Bush does to fool people
I used to fall for it myself when I first started seriously watching this group. Now I know better. Bush knows EVERYTHING. He may not be as smart as Poppy but he's involved in everything I believe.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:18 PM
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10. This conveniently ignores the fine print on the NDA
you know, the part where it says it's okay to disclose classified information so long as it's on background. I think there is something about pinkie swearing not to pass it on.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:22 PM
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11. Congressman Waxman, Sept 18 2004; exposing mechanisms of deception
Secrecy in the Bush Administration

by Rep. Henry A. Waxman


Friday 18 September 2004

Rep. Henry A. Waxman has released a comprehensive examination of secrecy in the Bush Administration. The report analyzes how the Administration has implemented each of our nation’s major open government laws. It finds that there has been a consistent pattern in the Administration’s actions: laws that are designed to promote public access to information have been undermined, while laws that authorize the government to withhold information or to operate in secret have repeatedly been expanded. The cumulative result is an unprecedented assault on the principle of open government.

The Administration has supported amendments to open government laws to create new categories of protected information that can be withheld from the public. President Bush has issued an executive order sharply restricting the public release of the papers of past presidents. The Administration has expanded the authority to classify documents and dramatically increased the number of documents classified. It has used the USA Patriot Act and novel legal theories to justify secret investigations, detentions, and trials. And the Administration has engaged in litigation to contest Congress’ right to information.

<clip>

Withholding Information Requested by Congress

On numerous occasions, the Bush Administration has withheld information requested by members of Congress. During consideration of the Medicare legislation in 2003, the Administration withheld estimates showing that the bill would cost over $100 billion more than the Administration claimed. In this instance, Administration officials threatened to fire the HHS Actuary, Richard Foster, if he provided the information to Congress. In another case, the Administration’s refusal to provide information relating to air pollution led Senator Jeffords, the ranking member of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, to place holds on the nominations of several federal officials.

On over 100 separate occasions, the Administration has refused to answer the inquiries of, or provide the information requested by, Rep. Waxman, the ranking member of the House Committee on Government Reform.

The information that the Administration has refused to provide includes:

Documents requested by the ranking members of eight House Committees relating to the prison abuses at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere;

Information on contacts between Vice President Cheney’s office and the Department of Defense regarding the award to Halliburton of a sole-source contract worth up to $7 billion for work in Iraq;

and,

Information about presidential advisor Karl Rove’s meetings and phone conversations with executives of companies in which he owned stock.

Much more at the link:
http://www.yubanet.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/6/13478/printer



Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:24 PM
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12. Does the blivet think he could 'fine tune' his message
and no one would notice? His arrogance never ceases to amaze!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:32 PM
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13. What a wonderful post!!!!!! Wow. Damn.
Recommended
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:33 PM
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14. Great work.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:34 PM
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15. still more wiggle room
"allowing continued service in his administration until the commission of a crime had been established"

Notice that he hasn't said which crime - so they can still wiggle out. "Oh, we didn't mean THAT crime"
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:41 PM
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16. Well, it's not like they are going to be indicted over that...
Or are they?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:44 PM
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17. EO One twenty nine fifty eight. It's not the prosecutor's job to stanch
the leak. It's the President's.

Too bad we don't really have one right now.

A few days ago we were talking about adding logs to the fire. Now, it's more like watching a forest fire get out of control.

Good job, UL. Thanks.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:47 PM
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18. Today Bu$h made himself
an un-indicted co-conspirator. He has put his loyalty to an individual ahead of his loyalty to his country. He now joins the ranks of the rest of the traitors in his misadministration.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 04:48 PM
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19. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 04:51 PM
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20. Emailed this post to the DNC and a variety of other folk. Maybe it'll help



Peace.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:12 PM
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21. You are on fire, my friend. Excellent!
Peace.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:15 PM
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22. KICK
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:16 PM
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23. "What The Hell Is Going On?”


“What Is Problem? Two Years, And He Can't Call Rove In And Find Out What The Hell Is Going On?” -- my hero, Helen Thomas, July 18, 2005.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us



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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:16 PM
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24. Were There Previous SF-312 Violations?
Not sure how you'd find it, but it would be interesting to see how this law was applied in the past. While it's nice to know such a law exists and appears a lot of people in this regime violated it, before we starting putting it our quiver, we should understand how it's been used in the past and the original intent of the law. You know the RNC is already working on their side of this spin. I'd like to know the truth first.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:29 PM
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26. Some background:
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 05:32 PM by understandinglife
Executive Order 12958 governs how federal employees are awarded security clearances in order to obtain access to classified information. It was last updated by President George W. Bush on March 25, 2003, although it has existed in some form since the Truman era.

The executive order applies to any entity within the executive branch that comes into possession of classified information, including the White House.

It requires employees to undergo a criminal background check, obtain training on how to protect classified information, and sign a “Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement,” also known as a SF-312, promising not to reveal classified information. (1)

The nondisclosure agreement signed by White House officials such as Mr. Rove states: “I will never divulge classified information to anyone” who is not authorized to receive it. (2)

1 Executive Order No. 12958, Classified National Security Information (as amended), sec. 4.1(a) (Mar. 28, 2003) (online at http://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy_documents/executive_order_12958_amendment.html).

2 Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement, Standard Form 312 (Prescribed by NARA/ISOO) (32 C.F.R. 2003, E.O. 12958) (online at http://contacts.gsa.gov/webforms.nsf/0/03A78F16A522716785256A69004E23F6/$file/SF312.pdf).


If I can find any further information, via google searches, I'll post it. I remember the day I signed several documents as part of obtaining my security clearances; it is not something a reasonable person takes lightly.

on edit: links repaired.


Peace.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:56 PM
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27. Thank You For The Info...
I agree, this is serious stuff, I just want to understand the intent of the law and how it's been applied in the past. If this has only been applied to low level employees or has never really been used, it might not serve the purposes some wish it to have since it probably has never really withstood a solid court test.

Again, I'm just trying to get up to speed on this statute. Personally, I think this game is one around conspiracy and perjury right now.

Cheers and I'll look forward to your posts...
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:21 PM
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31. Question 3: Upon what legal authority is the SF 312 based?
Question 3: Upon what legal authority is the SF 312 based?

Answer: The direct legal bases for the issuance of SF 312 are Executive Order 12958, in which the President authorizes the Director of ISOO to issue standardized security forms; and National Security Decision Directive No. 84 (NSDD 84), in which the President directs ISOO to issue a standardized classified information nondisclosure agreement. Both E.O.. 12958 and NSDD 84 are based on the President's constitutional responsibilities to protect national security information. These responsibilities derive from the President's powers as Chief Executive, Commander-in-Chief, and the principal architect of United States foreign policy.

Nondisclosure agreements have consistently been upheld by the Federal courts, including the Supreme Court, as legally binding and constitutional. At every stage of the development and implementation of the SF 312 and its predecessors, the SF 189 and the SF 189-A, experts in the Department of Justice have reviewed their constitutionality and enforceability under existing law. The most recent litigation over the SF 189 resulted in a decision that upheld its basic constitutionality and legality.

From Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement
(Standard Form 312) -- Briefing Booklet


http://www.fas.org/sgp/isoo/sf312.html



Peace.

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Darwins Finch Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:11 AM
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52. "last updated by President George W. Bush on March 25, 2003"
Does anyone know what he changed in it? Perhaps adding a loophole at just the right time for an eventuality like the current situation?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:01 PM
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28. Why should Bu$h call Rove in to investigate the leak
if he already knew the answer because he approved the leak in the first place? What good would that do?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:23 PM
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32. I suspect that Prosecutor Fitzgerald envisions asking such question(s)
Perhaps he already has. For sure, they need to be asked.


Peace.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:05 PM
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29. Excellent!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:14 PM
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30. There's blood in the water.
And somehow some journalists appeared out of nowhere.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:25 PM
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33. "this will all be de-classified soon"
That is really the pivotal phrase, courtesy of Mathew Cooper. This is acknowledgment on Rove part AT THE TIME he was having the discussion that he was passing along classified information. "I've already said too much" Well , yeah, I guess you did.

This explains why they are going to be all over Mathew Cooper like ants on a birthday cake. They have to discredit his testimony or Rove is cooked to a fare-thee-well. I hope that Mathew Cooper took great notes and I bet he did.

Rove faces the problem of all liars - it starts to be too complicated to sort out what you said under what circumstances, because you never have the TRUTH to fall back on.

I also think we all know Bush never undertook an investigation, because he didn't need or want an investigation. Maybe they think that McClellan's "hey you didn't do it, did you? Yeah, that's what I thought" tap dance fulfills that obligation. I think not.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:33 PM
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34. Can't the Executive Branch just rescind an Executive order
I mean they somehow rescinded a congressional Law that stated Presidential Papers must be released no longer than twelve years after the president has left office. They can be released after eight but must be released after twelve years. Reagan has been out of office more than twelve years and so has Bush 1.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:44 PM
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35. If they rescind this executive order they release everyone from their ...
... obligation to keep classified information, classified.

It is an irony that an administration that has aggressively sought to classify more information has violated, in multiple ways since July, 2003, the non-disclosure agreement.


Peace.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:29 PM
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36. Shields: "Today in Washington, the big, barefaced lie is very much back."
For two years, the W. Bush White House had asserted that Bush's closest political advisor, Karl Rove, had nothing to do with press leaks revealing that the wife of the former U.S. ambassador whose report had publicly refuted administration claims that Saddam Hussein had attempted to buy "yellowcake" uranium ore from Africa for nuclear weapons was an undercover CIA officer.

Scratch those assertions: Karl Rove did tell Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper that former Ambassador Joe Wilson's wife worked at the CIA.

<clip>

Are you ready for a barefaced lie? Listen to the Republican talking points.

<clip>

All of this raises one nagging question: Just how dumb do the Bush people believe we are, that we would swallow, for even a nanosecond, the fabrication that Karl Rove's only motive in calling reporters was to discourage inaccurate stories? Do they really think we are that stupid?

From How dumb do they think we are? by Mark Shields

July 18, 2005

More at the link:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/18/how.dumb/



Hmmm, CNN "Inside Politics" on Bush administration 'fabrications' and RNC 'barefaced lies.'


Peace.

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:17 PM
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37. WOW. nt
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 09:18 PM by snot
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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:26 PM
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38. 738 times they've violated EO #12958!
I think they're trying for 911 times. :evilgrin:
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:04 PM
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39. It Could Easily Be Argued That It's Not a Crime...
by reading what's at the end of Executive Order 12958:

"This order is not intended, and should not be construed, to create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law by a party against the United States, its agencies, its officers, or its employees."


We pretty much live in a fascist country, legal terminology is always worded in such a way that it can be interpreted many different ways. Every Exec. Order I read has that section at the bottom of it.

I agree with your post though, I think he's committing a crime everyday by lying about it. That doesn't mean some repuke wouldn't try to prove it's not a crime and possibly be successful.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/clinton/eo12958.html
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:48 AM
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47. That's standard biolerplate.
It means that an Executive Order cannot be used to legislate - which is under the exclusive authority of the Congress.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:55 PM
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40. Good Call. Now Tally-Up All his LIES & We Got ourselves an "I"
Along w/his mobsters and you can change that "b" to an "n" anyday from here on out!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 12:27 AM
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41. I don't know about you guys
but Bush's actions are very telling to me. To me his whole statement in 2003 about firing someone is fake and phoney just like him being a Texas cowboy. This also shows that Rove is truly guilty because of all the trouble Bush is going to not to fire and dismiss Rove. I wonder though if Rove would ever squeal if he was ever fired?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 12:32 AM
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43. Thanks for this great post, UL. Here's your reward: a Sorensen CARTOON:
I DU believe that some light is FINALLY beginning to break through on their crimes. Once it truly starts, I think it will progress geometrically - one crime to another and another and another.

This cartoon may take a few seconds - up to a minute - to load. It was found here:
http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=19359

http://workingforchange.speedera.net.nyud.net:8090/
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:13 AM
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46. "Machiavelli says ethics should always trump political gain!" Now,
.... that is funny!!! :rofl:

Thanks Hope; it's good to end the day with a laugh.

And, with increasing hope that we are going to bring these criminals to justice - for all the world to see. That is the next chapter in American history and we must be writing it soon.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:07 AM
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45. Jim Lobe: " 'PlameGate' Is Hardly a Summer Squall"
”PlameGate” Is Hardly a Summer Squall

by Jim Lobe


July 18, 2005

WASHINGTON, Jul 18 (IPS) - While to people living outside the Washington ”Beltway,” the current affair over the disclosure by top White House officials of the identity of a covert intelligence officer may seem somewhat esoteric, the stakes could not be higher.

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The case may also prove to be one more string -- albeit a very central one -- that, if pulled with sufficient determination, could well unravel a very tangled ball of yarn, and one that would confirm recent revelations in the British press -- the so-called Downing Street memo -- that the Bush administration was ”fixing the facts” about the alleged threat posed by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in order to grease the rails to war.

It may also expose how a close-knit group of neo-conservatives and Republican activists both inside and outside the administration also waged war against professionals in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the State Department in the run-up to war precisely because, as experts, they repeatedly came up with new ”facts” that contradicted the propaganda of both the White House and its backers. Facts that somehow either had to be ”fixed” or discredited.

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Much more of this excellent analysis at the link:

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=29541


The real challenge for Mr Fitzgerald, and subsequent prosecutors, is managing the bumper crop of charges to bring against a substantial number of participants in all of Bu$h's crimes. And,then there's Bu$h, himself - what a rap sheet!


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:39 AM
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48. This is a GREAT thread, UL!
And some terrific discussion and info in the thread!...
Kicked and nominated! (I'm doing the same to ALL the many repeater threads going up recently here, cuz this info is just too important for anyone to miss!)
Kudos to all!
d
ps: The cracks are spreading rapidly; the tide is finally turning!
Soon we won't have to put up with this Infinite Crapola Machine any longer!
And these idiots can get some much-needed rest!





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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:58 AM
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49. Rove wasn’t truthful with the FBI
“It now appears that Rove, President Bush’s chief of staff, may have lied to the FBI in October 2003—a federal crime—when he was questioned by federal agents investigating who was responsible for leaking information about a covert CIA operative to the media.
During questioning by the FBI about his role in the Plame affair, Rove told federal agents that he only started sharing information about Plame with reporters and White House officials for the first time after conservative columnist Robert Novak identified her covert CIA status in his column on July 14, 2003.

But Rove wasn’t truthful with the FBI what with the recent disclosure of Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper’s emails, which reveal Rove as the source for Cooper’s own July 2003 story identifying Plame as a CIA operative, and show that Rove spoke to Cooper nearly a week before Novak’s column was published and, according to previously published news reports, spoke to a half-dozen other reporters about Plame as early as June 2003.”
Report Shows Karl Rove May Have Lied to Federal Agents, a Federal Crime, During Oct 2003 Testimony Into CIA Agent Leak
By Jason Leopold

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0715-11.htm
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:25 AM
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50. Liar, liar, pants on fire
Dumbya that is.

He is a liar, he is shielding a traitor and he intends to do nothing about TurdBlossom's behavior. He doesn't give a damn about the indignation and disapproval of over half of the nation. He is the President, God appointed him, so as far as he is concerned we can all flake off.

This is all so wrong
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iwillalwayswonderwhy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:08 AM
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51. Out-Of-The-Loop
In my opinion, Bush is already laying out the "Out-Of-The-Loop" card, just like his daddy did during Iran-Contra. He's trying to pull off the same Reaganesque "I trusted my subordinates to do their jobs and didn't micromanange them" defense. Apparently, there is a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in the WH.

The entire fiasco seems to be aimed at protecting HIM, let the other chips fall where they may.

We do have absolute proof at this point of a cover-up. Scott McClellan told us he spoke to Libby and Rove and was assured they had nothing to do with it. Did Rove and Libby lie to Scott, or did Scott lie to us?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:35 AM
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53. Ted Rall: ".. he's not the only high-ranking Bush Administration traitor."
REPUBLICANS MUST CHOOSE: BUSH OR AMERICA?

By Ted Rall


July 18, 2005

NEW YORK--"Karl Rove is loyal to President Bush," a correspondent wrote as Treasongate broke. "Isn't that a form of patriotism?" Not in a representative democracy, I replied. Only in a dictatorship is fealty to the Leader equal to loyalty to the nation. We're Bush's boss. He works for us. Unless that changed on 9/11 (or 12/20/00). Rove had no right to give away state secrets, even to protect Bush.

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Rove's betrayal of a CIA WMD expert--while the U.S. was using WMDs as a reason to invade Iraq--is virtually indistinguishable from Robert Hanssen's selling out of American spies. Both allowed America's enemies to learn the identities of covert operatives. Both are traitors. Both are eligible for the death penalty. And he's not the only high-ranking Bush Administration traitor.

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We already know that Rove is a traitor. So, probably, is Cheney. Since George W. Bush has protected traitors for at least two years; he is therefore an accomplice to the Rove-Libby cell. We are long past the point where, during the summer of 1974, GOP senators led by Barry Goldwater told Richard Nixon that he had to resign. So why aren't Turd Blossom and his compadres out of office and awaiting trial?

Democrats are out of power. And, sadly, Republicans have become so obsessed with personal loyalty that they've forgotten that their first duty is to country, not party or friend. Unless they wake up soon and dump Bush, Republicans could be permanently discredited.

More at the link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucru/20050718/cm_ucru/republicansmustchoosebushoramerica&printer=1;_ylt=AocmLRW3smj.Foa1GP6wrBpkWRIF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-


That's easy enough for almost any American to understand.



Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:22 AM
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54. "Bush continues to leave this high-risk, one-man sleeper cell ...
... positioned to do it again."

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A 'Treasonous' Action

This is not a partisan issue. Back in October of 2003, shortly after Robert Novak -- over CIA protests -- published Plame's identity, a group of former CIA agents testified before a Senate Democratic Policy Committee on the outing of their colleague. The agents, Larry Johnson, Michael Grimaldi and Brent Cavan, all of whom are Republicans, pulled no punches in their shared statement:


We also want to send a clear message to the political “operatives” responsible for “outing” Mrs. Wilson. Such action was treacherous, if not treasonous. ... Such action has allowed the less attractive aspects of politics to supersede the Government's responsibility to protect the citizens of this nation and the individuals who serve in difficult, dangerous covert capacities. This has set a sickening precedent. The “senior Administration officials” who did this have warned all U.S. intelligence officers and the intelligence community that any one individual may be compromised if providing information or factual analysis the White House does not like.

If left unpunished, this cowardly act will not only hinder our efforts to recruit qualified individuals into the clandestine service, but it will have a far-reaching, deleterious effect on our ability to recruit foreign intelligence assets overseas. Who in their right mind would ever agree to become a spy for the United States when we cannot even protect our own undercover officers?


From Code Rove

by Evan Derkacz
who reminds us all in his July 13, 2005 post: "In this complex scandal there's really only one thing to keep in mind: Karl Rove endangered America.
http://www.alternet.org/story/23506/



Almost two years later, we now have abundant evidence that Bush, daily, has been and continues aiding and abetting Rove's and Libby's treason.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:53 AM
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55. D Jackson, Boston Globe: "Link to Cheney deepens 'leak-gate' scandal"
Link to Cheney deepens ‘leak-gate’ scandal

by Derrick Z. Jackson


July 19, 2005

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The level to which Libby and Cheney stooped to get their war was highlighted by the momentous presentation of Saddam’s ‘‘threat’’ before the United Nations Security Council by then Secretary of State Colin Powell. Powell gave a presentation six weeks before the war where he said, ‘‘every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions.’’ Those assertions resulted in grudging acceptance of the war from many Democrats.

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According to Vanity Fair, ‘‘Cheney’s office made one last ditch effort to persuade Powell to link Saddam and Al Qaeda and to slip the Prague story back into the speech. Only moments before Powell began speaking, Scooter Libby tried unsuccessfully to reach (Larry) Wilkerson by phone. Powell’s staff chief, by then inside the Security Council chamber, declined to take the call. ‘Scooter,’ said one State Department aide, ‘wasn’t happy.’’’

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According to Vanity Fair, Cheney himself urged Powell to go ahead and stake his national popularity on the nonexistent evidence by saying to Powell, ‘‘Your poll numbers are in the 70s. You can afford to lose a few points.’’

America and Iraq would go on to lose more than a few points. Libby may end up as a symbol of a government so driven to ignore the truth it was willing to resort to dirty tricks to stop anyone from telling it.

More at the link:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/07/19/link_to_cheney_deepens_145leak_gate146_scandal/



Yes, Mr Jackson, it is true that "It is bad enough for Karl Rove to be accused of being a leaker, since he is President Bush’s chief political strategist. But if Time’s story holds, I. Lewis Libby’s involvement represents an even more insidious abuse of power."

When the judges have written on Prosecutor Fitzgerald's requests they have been direct in stating that his case represent serious national security issues.

No more serious threat to a Nation's security exists than those who undermine it from within its core. Bu$h, Cheney, Rove, Libby, .... are the gravest threat our national security has ever confronted.

Politics before Constitution; neocon imperialism before national security - we have been attacked from within.

Every citizen and every true American member of Congress must focus immediately and relentlessly on removing these treacherous traitors from our government.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 12:02 PM
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56. Is anyone surprised?
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 12:03 PM by redqueen
Is this the most corrupt administration in our country's history?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 02:54 PM
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57. WSJ: Memo Underscored Issue of Shielding Plame's Identity
Memo Underscored Issue of Shielding Plame's Identity

By ANNE MARIE SQUEO and JOHN D. MCKINNON

Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
July 19, 2005; Page A3

A classified State Department memo that may be pivotal to the CIA leak case made clear that information identifying an agent and her role in her husband's intelligence-gathering mission was sensitive and shouldn't be shared, according to a person familiar with the document.

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The memo's details are significant because they will make it harder for officials who saw the document to claim that they didn't realize the identity of the CIA officer was a sensitive matter. Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, may also be looking at whether other crimes -- such as perjury, obstruction of justice or leaking classified information -- were committed.

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The paragraph in the memo discussing Ms. Wilson's involvement in her husband's trip is marked at the beginning with a letter designation in brackets to indicate the information shouldn't be shared, according to the person familiar with the memo. Such a designation would indicate to a reader that the information was sensitive. The memo, though, doesn't specifically describe Ms. Wilson as an undercover agent, the person familiar with the memo said.

More at the link:
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/article_print/0,,SB112170178721288385-IRjgoNjlah4opyobXqHaq6Hm5,00.html


Another day of White House cover-up of treason; of providing safe-harbor to traitors while American citizen. And, Jose Padilla remains imprisoned for more than 3 years without being charged with a crime.

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 02:58 PM
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58. KICK. and I intend to KICK this
thread for the rest of the day, week, MONTH...whatever it takes. THIS IS IT!!:bounce:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:10 PM
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59. Thank you. And, I intend to continue posting relevant links.
Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:51 PM
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60. Amb. Joe Wilson's Letter to the Senate Select Intelligence Committee
Ambassador Joe Wilson's Letter to the Senate Select Intelligence Committee

July 15, 2005

The Honorable
Pat Roberts
J. Rockefeller

Dear Senator Roberts and Senator Rockefeller,

I read with great surprise and consternation the Niger portion of Senators Roberts, Bond and Hatch "additional comments" to the Senate Select Intelligence Committee's Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Assessment on Iraq. I am taking this opportunity to clarify some of the issues raised in these comments.

First conclusion: "The plan to send the former ambassador to Niger was suggested by the former ambassador's wife, a CIA employee."

That is not true.
The conclusion is apparently based on one anodyne quote from a memo Valerie Plame, my wife sent to her superiors that says "my husband has good relations with the PM (prime minister) and the former Minister of Mines, (not to mention lots of French contacts) both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." There is no suggestion or recommendation in that statement that I be sent on the trip. Indeed it is little more than a recitation of my contacts and bona fides. The conclusion is reinforced by comments in the body of the report that a CPD reports officer stated the "the former ambassador's wife offered up his name'" (page 39) and a State Department Intelligence and Research officer that the "meeting was apparently convened by who had the idea to dispatch him to use his contacts to sort out the Iraq-Niger uranium issue."

In fact, Valerie was not in the meeting at which the subject of my trip was raised. Neither was the CPD Reports officer. After having escorted me into the room, she departed the meeting to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest. It was at that meeting where the question of my traveling to Niger was broached with me for the first time and came only after a thorough discussion of what the participants did and did not know about the subject. My bona fides justifying the invitation to the meeting were the trip I had previously taken to Niger to look at other uranium related questions as well as 20 years living and working in Africa, and personal contacts throughout the Niger government. Neither the CPD reports officer nor the State analyst were in the chain of command to know who, or how, the decision was made. The interpretations attributed to them are not the full story. In fact, it is my understanding that the Reports Officer has a different conclusion about Valerie's role than the one offered in the "additional comments". I urge the committee to reinterview the officer and publicly publish his statement.

It is unfortunate that the report failed to include the CIA's position on this matter. If the staff had done so it would undoubtedly have been given the same evidence as provided to Newsday reporters Tim Phelps and Knut Royce in July, 2003. They reported on July 22 that:

"A senior intelligence officer confirmed that Plame was a Directorate of Operations undercover officer who worked 'alongside' the operations officers who asked her husband to travel to Niger.

"But he said she did not recommend her husband to undertake the Niger assignment. 'They (the officers who did ask Wilson to check the uranium story) were aware of who she was married to, which is not surprising,'" he said. 'There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason,' he said. 'I can't figure out what it could be.'

"We paid his (Wilson's) airfare. But to go to Niger is not exactly a benefit. Most people you'd have to pay big bucks to go there,' the senior intelligence official said. Wilson said he was reimbursed only for expenses." (Newsday article Columnist blows CIA Agent's cover, dated July 22, 2003).

In fact, on July 13 of this year, David Ensor, the CNN correspondent, did call the CIA for a statement of its position and reported that a senior CIA official confirmed my account that Valerie did not propose me for the trip:

"'She did not propose me," he said--others at the CIA did so. A senior CIA official said that is his understanding too."

Second conclusion: "Rather that speaking publicly about his actual experiences during his inquiry of the Niger issue, the former ambassador seems to have included information he learned from press accounts and from his beliefs about how the Intelligence Community would have or should have handled the information he provided."

This conclusion states that I told the committee staff that I "may have become confused about my own recollection after the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) reported that the names and dates on the documents were not correct." At the time that I was asked that question, I was not afforded the opportunity to review the articles to which the staff was referring. I have now done so.

On March 7, 2003 the Director General of the IAEA reported to the United Nations Security Council that the documents that had been given to him were "not authentic". His deputy, Jacques Baute, was even more direct, pointing out that the forgeries were so obvious that a quick Google search would have exposed their flaws. A State Department spokesman was quoted the next day as saying about the forgeries "We fell for it." From that time on the details surrounding the documents became public knowledge and were widely reported. I was not the source of information regarding the forensic analysis of the documents in question; the IAEA was.

The first time I spoke publicly about the Niger issue was in response to the State Department's disclaimer. On CNN a few days later, in response to a question, I replied that I believed the US government knew more about the issue than the State Department spokesman had let on and that he had misspoken. I did not speak of my trip.

My first public statement was in my article of July 6 published in the New York Times, written only after it became apparent that the administration was not going to deal with the Niger question unless it was forced to. I wrote the article because I believed then, and I believe now, that it was important to correct the record on the statement in the President's State of the Union address which lent credence to the charge that Iraq was actively reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. I believed that the record should reflect the facts as the US government had known them for over a year. The contents of my article do not appear in the body of the report and is not quoted in the "additional comments." In that article, I state clearly that "As for the actual memorandum, I never saw it. But news accounts have pointed out that the documents had glaring errors -- they were signed, for example, by officials who were no longer in government -- and were probably forged. (And then there's the fact that Niger formally denied the charges.)"

The first time I actually saw what were represented as the documents was when Andrea Mitchell, the NBC correspondent, handed them to me in an interview on July 21. I was not wearing my glasses and could not read them. I have to this day not read them. I would have absolutely no reason to claim to have done so. My mission was to look into whether such a transaction took place or could take place. It had not and could not. By definition that makes the documents bogus.

The text of the "additional comments" also assert that "during Mr. Wilson's media blitz, he appeared on more than thirty television shows including entertainment venues. Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who would listen that the President had lied to the American people, that the Vice President had lied, and that he had 'debunked' the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa."

My article in the New York Times makes clear that I attributed to myself "a small role in the effort to verify information about Africa's suspected link to Iraq's nonconventional weapons programs." After it became public that there were then Ambassador to Niger, Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick's report and the report from a four star Marine Corps General, Carleton Fulford, in the files of the U. S. government, I went to great lengths to point out that mine was but one of three reports on the subject. I never claimed to have "debunked" the allegation that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa. I claimed only that the transaction described in the documents that turned out to be forgeries could not have and did not occur. I did not speak out on the subject until several months after it became evident that what underpinned the assertion in the State of the Union address were those documents, reports of which had sparked Vice President Cheney's original question that led to my trip. The White House must have agreed. The day after my article appeared in the Times a spokesman for the President told the Washington Post that "the sixteen words did not rise to the level of inclusion in the State of the Union."

I have been very careful to say that while I believe that the use of the sixteen words in the State of the Union address was a deliberate attempt to deceive the Congress of the United States, I do not know what role the President may have had other than he has accepted responsibility for the words he spoke. I have also said on many occasions that I believe the President has proven to be far more protective of his senior staff than they have been to him.

The "additional comments" also assert: "The Committee found that, for most analysts the former ambassador's report lent more credibility, not less, to the reported Niger-Iraq uranium deal." In fact, the body of the Senate report suggests the exact opposite:

-- In August, 2002, a CIA NESA report on Iraq's weapons of Mass Destruction capabilities did not include the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium information (pg. 48)

-- In September, 2002, during coordination of a speech with an NSC staff member, the CIA analyst suggested the reference to Iraqi attempts to acquire uranium from Africa be removed. The CIA analyst said the NSC staff member said that would leave the British "flapping in the wind." (pg. 50)

-- The uranium text was included in the body of the NIE but not in the key judgments. When someone suggested that the uranium information be included as another sign of reconstitution, the INR Iraq nuclear analyst spoke up and said the he did not agree with the uranium reporting and that INR would be including text indicating their disagreement in their footnote on nuclear reconstitution. The NIO said he did not recall anyone really supporting including the uranium issue as part of the judgment that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program, so he suggested that the uranium information did not need to be part of the key judgments. He told Committee staff he suggested that "We'll leave it in the paper for completeness. Nobody can say we didn't connect the dots. But we don't have to put that dot in the key judgments." (pg. 53)

-- On October 2, 2002, the Deputy DCI testified before the SSCI. Senator Jon Kyl asked the Deputy DCI whether he had read the British White Paper and whether he disagreed with anything in the report. The Deputy DCI testified that "the one thing where I think they stretched a little bit beyond where we would stretch is on the points about where Iraq seeking uranium from various African locations." (pg.54)

-- On October 4, 2002 the NIO for Strategic and Nuclear Programs testified that "there is some information on attempts....there's a question about those attempts because of the control of the material in those countries....For us it's more the concern that they (Iraq) uranium in country now." (pg. 54)

-- On October 5, 2002, the ADDI said an Iraq nuclear analyst -- he could not remember who -- raised concerns about the sourcing and some of the facts of the Niger reporting, specifically that the control of the mines in Niger would have made it very difficult to get yellowcake to Iraq. (pg. 55)

-- Based on the analyst's comments, the ADDI faxed a memo to the Deputy National Security Advisor that said, "remove the sentence because the amount is in dispute and it is debatable whether it can be acquired from this source. We told Congress that the Brits have exaggerated this issue. Finally, the Iraqis already have 550 metric tons of uranium oxide in their inventory." (pg. 56)

-- On October 6, 2002, the DCI called the Deputy National Security Advisor directly to outline the CIA's concerns. The DCI testified to the SSCI on July 16, 2003, that he told the Deputy National Security Advisor that the "President should not be a fact witness on this issue," because his analysts had told him the "reporting was weak." (pg. 56)

-- On October 6, 2002, the CIA sent a second fax to the White House which said, "more on why we recommend removing the sentence about procuring uranium oxide from Africa: Three points 1) the evidence is weak. One of the two mines cited by the source as the location of the uranium oxide is flooded. The other mine cited by the source is under the control of the French authorities. 2) the procurement is not particularly significant to Iraq's nuclear ambitions because the Iraqis already have a large stock of uranium oxide in their inventory. And 3) we have shared points one and two with Congress, telling them that the Africa story is overblown and telling them this in one of the two issues where we differed with the British.

-- On March 8, 2003, the intelligence report on my trip was disseminated within the U.S. Government according the Senate report (pg. 43). Further, the Senate report states that "in early March, the Vice President asked his morning briefer for an update on the Niger uranium issue." That update from the CIA "also noted that the CIA would be debriefing a source who may have information related to the alleged sale on March 5." The report then states the "DO officials also said they alerted WINPAC analysts when the report was being disseminated because they knew the high priority of the issue." The report notes that the CIA briefer did not brief the Vice President on the report and the Vice President let the matter drop.

It is clear from the body of the Senate report that the Intelligence Community, including the DCI himself, made several attempts to ensure that the President not become a "fact witness" on an allegation that was so weak. A thorough reading of the report substantiates the claim made in my opinion piece in the New York Times and in subsequent interviews I have given on the subject. The sixteen words should never have been in the State of the Union address as the White House now acknowledges.

I undertook this mission at the request of my government in response to a legitimate concern that Saddam Hussein was attempting to reconstitute his nuclear weapons program. This was a national security issue that has concerned me since I was the Deputy Chief of Mission in the U.S. Embassy in Iraq before and during the first Gulf War.

At the time of my trip I was in private business and had not offered my views publicly on the policy we should adopt towards Iraq. Indeed, throughout the debate in the runup to the war, I took the position that the U.S. be firm with Saddam Hussein on the question of weapons of mass destruction programs including backing tough diplomacy with the credible threat of force. In that debate I never mentioned my trip to Niger. I did not share the details of my trip until May, 2003, after the war was over, and then only when it became clear that the administration was not going to address the issue of the State of the Union statement.

It is essential that the errors and distortions in the additional comments be corrected for the public record. Nothing could be more important for the American people than to have an accurate picture of the events that led to the decision to bring the United States into war in Iraq. The Senate Intelligence Committee has an obligation to present to the American people the factual basis of that process. I hope that this letter is helpful in that effort. I look forward to your further "additional comments."

Sincerely,
Ambassador Joe Wilson

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/05/07/con05233.html


An interesting quote provides a link to who and why: 'There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason,' he said. 'I can't figure out what it could be.'


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Who authored the forgery remains a mystery, but one that Congress has avoided trying to solve, even though many have expressed outrage at having been snookered into voting for war. Senate intelligence committee chair Pat Roberts, R-Kan., has demonstrated a curious lack of curiosity. Nothing that ranking minority member Jay Rockefeller could do would persuade Roberts to ask the FBI to investigate.

Those searching for answers are reduced to asking the obvious: Cui bono? Who stood to benefit from such a forgery? A no-brainer—those lusting for war on Iraq. And who might that be? Look up the “neocon” writings on the website of the Project for the New American Century. There you will find information on people like Michael Ledeen, “Freedom Analyst” at the American Enterprise Institute and a key strategist among “neoconservative” hawks in and out of the Bush administration. Applauding the invasion of Iraq, Ledeen asserted at the very start that the war could not be contained, and that “it may turn out to be a war to remake the world.”

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Beyond his geopolitical punditry, Ledeen’s career shows he is well-accustomed to rogue operations. A longtime Washington operative, he was fired as a “consultant” for the National Security Council under President Ronald Reagan for running fool’s errands for Oliver North during the Iran-Contra subterfuge. One of Ledeen’s Iran-Contra partners in crime, so to speak, was Elliot Abrams. Abrams was convicted of lying to Congress about Iran-Contra. He was pardoned before jail time, however, by George H. W. Bush and is now George W. Bush’s deputy national security adviser. Ledeen continues to enjoy entree into the office of the vice president, as well as to his friend Abrams.

Ledeen has denied having anything to do with the forgery. Yet the company he keeps with other prominent Iran-Contra convictees/pardonees/intelligence contractors suggests otherwise. Another intriguing straw in the wind is Ledeen’s long association with Italian intelligence, which, according to most accounts, played a role in disseminating the forged documents. If Ledeen and his associates were involved, this might also help explain the amateurishness of the forged documents. They would have sorely missed the institutional expertise formerly at their beck and call.

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From Cheney And Plame by Ray McGovern on July 19, 2005

Link:
http://www.tompaine.com/print/cheney_and_plame.php


As Ray McGovern concludes: "It has now become clear that Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, was as active as Rove in spreading the word about the Wilsons when the story broke in July 2003. Surprise, surprise."

The White House has truly become a haven for criminals of every sort, including traitors.


Peace.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:27 PM
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61. Media Matters: "Media ignored Rove's apparent violation of nondisclosure
... agreement as reason for revoking his security clearance

July 19, 2005

Media coverage of White House senior adviser Karl Rove's role in leaking the identity of clandestine CIA operative Valerie Plame has focused extensively on whether Rove has committed a crime, but has largely ignored a different possibility that appears increasingly likely -- that Rove has violated the confidentiality pledge he made in exchange for access to classified information.

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Even news reports that have included Democratic calls to revoke Rove's security clearance have portrayed the issue as a partisan battle, neglecting to mention the administrative rules and guidelines that form the basis for the Democrats' demand.

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Available evidence suggests that Rove violated the agreement by revealing Plame's identity to one journalist and confirming it to another.

More at the link:
http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200507190004


And, then the media have the little matter of Bush failed responsibility in this matter, since at least the first week of July, 2003.

And, then the media need to contend with Libby and Cheney, at least, as additional offenders of Executive Order 12958.


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