Schwarzenegger: Unions are "special interest groups", corporations aren't.

Moyer: You've also said that your opponents are taking special interest money, and you called it tribal money, union money -- but you've taken money from developers, real estate people, high-tech companies in California, not that you would sit down and personally negotiate with them, but they are subject to some state regulation.

Schwarzenegger: I am the only one that has certain guidelines. None of the other candidates have these guidelines. I am the one that says: Here are the different groups I won't take money from -- which is the unions, the Indian gaming.

http://www.nbc4.tv/politics/2515296/detail.html

Any union member who votes for Arnold gets what they deserve if he wins and them screws them over.

Just asking.

What an idiot

"Grow Your Own Dope, Plant A Republickin"

so we can put an end to this bullshit Rove via Arnold attempt to take over California!

and this circus will be over.

on getting out the NO vote, will be more than welcome on here on DU.

This in today's SF Chronicle...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/09/27/MN245421.DTL

and

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/09/27/MN34095.DTL

..what Ahnuld is saying is that he won't take money from special interest groups that represent working class people and minorities but he will take money from special interest groups that represent big money corporations and investors who often don't have the best interests of working class people and minorities in their business plan. After all, the only thing that matters is profits.

That about cover it?

it is such a distorntion of adma smith's ideas in his "The Wealth of Nations" that smith from the grave ought to haunt such distortions.

smith knew right well that wealth producing of companies was a sub-set of scociety in general. he would be shocked to see that people use his ideas to insist that wealth alone was all that these economic entities was about.

the import of government is to do justice for its citizens, this is not met merely by allowing economic entities to creat wealth, yet it is all that free market types think.

i list part of an a essay by william pfatt of the international herald tribune from a few years back for brain food.

"The normal and proper aim of the corporate community is to make money for its managers and for the owners of business all the better if its members also contribute to the general prosperity. However, business acts on the prevailing business philosophy, which claims that corporate self-interest eventually produces the general interest. This comfortable belief rests on misinterpretation of the theory of market rationality proposed by Adam Smith.

"He would have found the market primitivism of the current day unrecognizable. He saw the necessity for public intervention to create or sustain the public interest, and took for granted the existence of a government responsible to the community as a whole, providing the structure within which the economy functions.

"Classical political thought says that the purpose of government is to do justice for its citizens. Part of this obligation is to foster conditions in which wealth is produced. The obligation is not met by substituting the wealth-producer for the government.

"Business looks after the interests of businessmen and corporation stockholders. Stark and selfish self-interest obviously is not what motivates most American businessmen and -women, but it is the doctrine of the contemporary corporation and of the modern American business school."

"It does not automatically serve the general interest, as any 18th century rationalist would acknowledge - or any 21st century realist."

William Pfatt

'bout sums it up don't it?

... of a parsnip.

If the people of California can't figure that out, they're gonna have to live with a vegetable in governor's mansion in Sacramento.

Oh, wait, they've done it before--they elected Reagan, too....

and he could still get in! That's the damn GOP strategy. That's why they're pushing this damn recall so hard, and why they want all Repubs with a brain to get out of the way.

Insulting vegetables like that!

"I won't take money from Indian casinos or unions."

Of course, he has a campaign advisor who has some shady connections with Las Vegas casinos, and as a union member himself, well, maybe it's time to find out how well Ah-nuld "acts" while dodging klieg lights that just happen to fall down.

He's managed to tell the truth about Republican values, at least.

When was the last time you saw a Repig flat-out say that he was against unions and worker's compensation? Because I can't remember. Scwarzenegger doesn't try to BS his way out of questions about the workers; he makes it clear that he's pro-business and capitalist. Bush still goes to speak to unions to kiss their ass with total insincerity.

Schwarzenegger is the type of Republican who would have been not that bad (still a repig) if there weren't 9/11 and the fascist garbage rising. He's not a puppet of the Jews or the Christians; he's pro-business; he doesn't pretend to be for the worker.

The problem is that if he wins he'll be able to manipulate his state's vote in favor of Bush. If it weren't for that I wouldn't care.

since he's a union member himself. fuck this giant chimp...we don't need anymore crazy republican actors in politics. remember what happened with the last one :eyes:

Someone should redo "Predator", with a different cast.

And he doesn't need to say "I'll be back" before he goes there because the thinking people of this country know better and do not want him back.

Corporations are far more a special interest group because they do not represent the people. Unions do.

But it's our job to make sure that they know what Arnold's real positions are.

I won't take money from -- which is the unions, the Indian gaming.

But will apparantly take money and support from!!!
Schwarzenegger adviser linked to card clubs, Nevada casinos
Rivals cry foul amid actor's attacks on Indian gaming


"A top political adviser to Arnold Schwarzenegger serves on the board of directors of a company that owns two Nevada casinos and has interests in two Southern California card clubs that compete with casinos run by California Indian tribes."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/09/27/MN76440.DTL