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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:10 PM
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Okay, a fear has washed over me this night. . .
that fear came in reading Hilter's complied speeches in which he cites the Bible and his reverence for the Christian faith. I read that to my wife, she thought it was something from Bush, Falwell, etc. and speaking about homosexuals. I feel a bitter taste in my throat when I realize that what I was taught in high school, college and through the television's A&E, History, and Discovery channels has been a spin and proved how the MSM is corporately controlled.

But, then I read the points of the German State creed, specifically point 24 which states, which I paraphrase, that the German state shall not hold any religion, unless they are striking at the morality of the state, in contempt.
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:16 PM
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1. Welcome to our nightmare....
:hangover:
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:17 PM
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2. But, this has just made the darkness worse. . .
I feel exactly like a child waking from a bad dream into a nightmare that is only darker and more terrifying than before. :hangover:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:17 PM
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3. Only we're living it awake n/t
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:25 PM
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6. To my regret. . .
perhaps Canada will grant me and my family asylum, because I do not want to live through 1930s Germany. I knew exactly why I became an archaeologist, it was to examine this little power and presenations of power, but when affronted with something of this nature. . . t makes me completely ill.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:33 PM
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9. have you read
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 10:34 PM by bloom
Jared Diamond's book "Collapse" yet?

He uses a lot of archaeological findings to explain the collapses of various societies.

It was rather depressing - but interesting at the same time.


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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:01 PM
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10. No, but I've heard of it. . .
you have to understand that there is a fairly predictable (though nothing with humans is predictable) life cycle of society. As a culture comes together, the largest buildings are the residences of the people of the culture itself. Then as it moves to the religious stage, the largest buildings are no longer houses but churches and cathedrals. Then, finally, the culture's focus changes to money and the largest buildings are dedicated to the purpose of gaining mone, i.e., the WTC. It is during this stage that the majority of cultures fail and the society falls into a state of collapse and then begin again.

For evidence of this trend: see British archaeology of the 1970s and then more recent publications focused on the material cultre and its uses, such as the Roman Amphora (a large vessel of earthenware) which first stored food stuffs, then religious items, then food stuffs again, but usually only food stuffs that were meant for serious trade.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:20 PM
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4. Is that on the net?
If so how about a link. Sounds interesting and scary.
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:22 PM
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5. Here it is:
This is the link which is posted from an eariler post on here.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:09 PM
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7. Thanks - Sounds like words straight out of W's mouth
expounded on by his administration.

I hope everyone takes the time to read them,
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:25 PM
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8. Doesn't it though?
I spoke with the last progressive Southern Baptist Minister (whom has no flock because of it) that told me his seminary teaches a course on how not to exploit the faith and used this. I, of course, find this very. . . hard to believe, though he promised that he would send me the sources (as he lives more than 200 miles away now).
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:38 AM
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11. The WWII fascist history is the neocons' playbook
c.f. Michael Ledeen (advisor to Karl Rove and sleazy figure connected to Iran-Contra, AIPAC, and Rovegate in general), "Universal Fascism."

There's no reason whatsoever to be surprised at noticing resemblances to Nazi Germany.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:53 AM
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12. I'm sorry you gained this insight
It's a revelation I often wish I'd never had. Ignorance is bliss and all that...at least until the day comes when even the ignorant are rudely awakened to the nightmare. And it's coming.

Welcome, this is a good place full of good people and most important, hope.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:08 AM
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13. couple those realizations with the documented evidence of . . .
the connections between the Bush family, the Third Reich, and the eugenics movement . . .

then think about those realizations again . . .
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