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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:07 PM
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everythingxen's penultimate conspiracy theory
Ok -- here is the big scary secret truth:

We are still fighting World War 2.

Before you laugh it off consider the following:

  • Prescott Bush was involved in actively trading with the Nazi's during wartime; who knows if he had political and idealogical allies as well.{1}

  • After "beating" Germany we scooped up a huge number of Nazi scientists and SS/Gestapo officers; that information remains classified, thanks to Dubya renewing the secrecy on Operation Paperclip (the program that scooped them up).

  • Operation Paperclip was under the control of Allen Dulles, who, mentored/molded Bush Sr.; Bush Sr. as CIA chief would have had plenty of access.

  • A potentially related side note: Karl Rove has dual citizenship in Germany.

Here is where my theory gets a little weird.

Ahhnald Schwarzenegger is the son of a Nazi; his father was a stormtrooper -- admittedly very few in Austria were not Nazi's, however....{2}

Let us suppose for a few moments (suspension of disbelief time folks) that Ahhnald is the end result (or near end result) of Mengele'superman project. {3}

Congrss has discussed passing legislation to allow Ahhnald to run for Fuhr.. err.. President. ;-)

So in summation:

We have a president who is the son of a Nazi sympathiser, leading us down the path of fascism, following every playbook in Hitler's and his grandfather's playbook.

Bush, PNAC -- they are servents of the true shadowy puppet-masters: Mengele's heir, the remainder of ODESSA and the remains of Wehrwolf, defeating America from within rather than without.

Once Bush is out of office, the Gropenfuhrer will take over; as Fuhrer of the Fourth Reich.

---------------------------------------------

So; what do you think?

Personally I give it 4 out of 5 stars; it is believable enough, however the "evil Nazi's lurking in the shadows is a bit cliche and over the top; unfortunately I almost believe it.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:14 PM
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1. They go back to WW1
Samuel P. Bush was the first president of National Manufactures Association, and cofounder of Scioto Country Club and Columbus Academy. He was an avid sports buff.

In the spring of 1918, Bush became chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms, and Ammunition Section of the War Industries Board of Bernard Baruch - a close associate of E.H. Harriman and Clarence Dillon - with national responsibility for government assistance to and relations with weapons companies including Remington (at the time controlled by Percy Rockefeller- who along with Averill Harriman took time to arrange for Harriman's and Bush's sons Bunny Harriman and Prescott Bush to be admitted to Yale's Skull and Bones in 1916.) Remington dominance of ammunition and small arms contracts during World War I continued during Bush's government service and many years beyond.

SNIP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Prescott_Bush

More here...

Read the book.
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:19 PM
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2. "penultimate" means next to last. Is that your intent? n/t
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:39 AM
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13. Yes, that was my intent.
If it was my "ultimate" conspiracy, aliens from beyond Io would melt my brain with Neutrino beams!! :lol:

Seriously though, yes, I say penultimate in it's intended sense, that this is not my ultimate conspiracy thory; afterall the stuff this administration does gets nuttier every day.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:25 PM
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3. You forget the ties
between the Muslim Brotherhood, which eventually spawned al-Qa'ida, and the Third Reich. Hasan al-Bana, founder of the Brotherhood, was an enthusiastic follower of Hitler and his organization functioned as a Nazi "fifth column" in the Arab world. Or so says John Loftus, former Justice dept. investigator of Nazi war crimes. Dave Emory has a couple of audio interviews with him here: http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/DX

The Muslim Brethren found a refuge in Saudi Arabia in the 1950s, with the help of a clique in the CIA, again according to Loftus. Any information about this has apparently been purged from the CIA archives.

Allen Dulles, Director of Central Intelligence from 1953 until JFK fired him in 1962 after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, had ties to Fritz Thyssen and was put under surveillance by FDR for his Nazi sympathies during the war. Dulles, of course, was central in the establishment of the parallel "shadow government" which was probably responsible for the murder of JFK (he also served on the Warren Commission...).

William Stamps Farish III, Dubya's ambassador to London, is the grandson of William Stamps Farish, who was the manager of the Standard Oil-IG Farben joint venture which set up Auschwitz to produce artificial rubber and gasoline with slave labour drawn from German and Polish Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, dissidents.

Future president Truman was the chairman of the Senate comittee which investigated Farish. His comment, at some point was "this borders on treason".

Your penultimate conspiracy theory has some merit.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:51 PM
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4. CIA's early leadership mostly Knights of Malta
As was Reinhard Gehlen, of Operation Paperclip fame. BTW, Op Paperclip was exposed by Mae Brussell's research into the JFK assassination, when she found the White Russians in Dallas doing the smear job on Oswald and looked into their background, mostly nazi related. Hmmm. Want to go into that as a 'smoking gun' in the JFK assassination ? The cookie crumbs sure lead to the CIA there.

Wm. Donovan, Wm. Casey, Allen Dulles, James Jesus Angleton, Wm. Colby, John McCone, ... etc. all Knights of Malta. And that P2 phony 'Masonic' lodge operating in the Vatican sure looks like a smear of the Freemasons, whom the Vatican since 1307 with the purge of the Knights Templar and 1700s with papal bull against Freemasonry, set up by the CIA and its Vatican insider friends. Michele Sindona, the real 'godfather' to Pope Paul VI, owned part of Gulf and Western who financed the original Godfather movie in 1972. What a coinkydink.

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:59 PM
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5. It would certainly make a great movie . . .
except the plot would have to be vastly simplified.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:04 PM
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6. Have you watched the video of the Marine wife?
I will find the link. It is so spooky, everyone prefers to forget about it. She was married, or maybe is married, to a Marine Captain. She talks about the sexual abuse and the weird orgies that marines had to participate in if they wanted to advance in their careers.
:yoiks:
Sounds sort of like Skull and Bones spread to the entire Marine Corps. You get them to do things they don't want to be public knowledge, and then you can completely control. Only those that you can completely control get promoted to positions of power.
:yoiks:
It's unbelievable, is what it is, but I finally believe her. I don't remember her name this moment, but I will find it. It is so spooky. I posted something about here a couple of times, nobody wanted to touch it with a 100 ft. pole.
:yoiks:

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:30 PM
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18. Also look into military intelligence's Michael Aquino for some real
strange stuff.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:05 PM
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7. Also forgot that nearly all of the major neo-con foundations arerun...
by nazi's and nazi sympathizers. :tinfoilhat:
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:08 PM
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8. Her name is Kay Griggs. You can watch the video.
There are two versions, a short one, and somewhere else all 8 hours are posted.

For the edited version, go to this site and click on "desperate wives". There are two parts.


http://www.hugequestions.com/

All eight hours are posted here:

http://cortez.gnn.tv/blogs/6867/Kay_Griggs_Entire_interview_8hrs_on_Military_Black_Ops_Underground
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 06:00 PM
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10. I have seen these, unreal...must see, imo. n/t
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:51 PM
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9. Not far from the truth, IMO.
I keep telling my friends, co-workers, anyone I can get to listen to me, that the people who are calling the shots both in front of the curtain and behind it are essentially Nazis. They've embedded themselves within the national security state apparatus and their primary agenda is to stage the conditions necessary for the total overthrow of the Constitution. 9/11 was a big step forward in their agenda. What they want is an excuses to implement martial law -- and they are doing everything they can to set the stage -- whether it is through bankrupting the economic system or undermining our defense systems or creating an ecological disaster or some combination there of isn't important. What they want is chaos from which they can birth the Fourth Reich you speak of.

I don't regard this as paranoid at all.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:23 PM
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12. they're certainly dropping the hints
e.g. Tommy Franks' Cigar Aficionado interview, Boykin's "appointed by God" quip, all the "nuclear 9/11" stink, etc.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:16 PM
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11. zzzzZZzzz :boring:
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:44 PM
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17. What would you prefer?
Shapeshifting space lizards who are behind it all?

:eyes:
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:42 AM
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14. LOL...
...thanks for the early-morning comic relief.
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:57 AM
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15. I'm glad you find it funny --- however....
I am essentailly serious; everything except the part about Arnold being Mengele's supersoldier --- that I pulled out of my ass, but even that could be true. ;-)
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:09 AM
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16. These days truth is stranger than fiction!
:rofl:
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:24 PM
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19. Hrrm...
Perhaps I was too close to the mark on this one?

I see very few replies that say it is too insane to consider, and not that many replies overall; making m think that more than a few have read the thread and thought "well I almost believe that, but don't want to reply for fear that I sound insane".
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