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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:16 PM
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At what point does the MSM get over their love affair with John McCain?
I'm so damn sick of hearing about how he's this holy voice of reason and moderation in Washington, who will be unbeatable if he decides to run in 2008.

He's a sellout. George Bush and Karl Rove attacked his family. He's campaigned for Bush, and now goes on television and defends Rove. What kind of person does that? And what more do you need to know about him.

Look, anyone who spent six (was it six?) years as a POW does deserve some respect -- for that. And it's nice that in the crazy world of GOP nutjubs, he's just a tad bit less nutty. But that doesn't make him a hero, and it doesn't make him a moderate.

And yes, I know that this has been discussed over and over again on these boards, but this morning's talk show comments by him just struck a nerve with me. Which brings me to another complain -- why is he on the Sunday news shows EVERY week!!!! OK, I have to stop.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:18 PM
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1. John McCain came out of prison with a huge, well deserved
amount of credit for his courage and patriotism. But, he as squandered most of that in my opinion.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:21 PM
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3. Wonderfully said
I too am impressed and still honor mccain's viet nam service but once you get past that theres no meat under all that gravy. Mccain should retire and take a well deserved rest.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:20 PM
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2. The day he says we need to break up Big Media and endorses
the “Media Ownership Reform Act of 2005.”

http://www.speakspeak.org/speak-blog/index.php?p=929

In other words, never.



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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:26 PM
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4. I wouldn't worry too much about the MSM attraction to John.
There are a WHOLE LOT of people who used to really like and respect him, that don't any more.

I was one of them! My attraction to him was that he always seemed to be willing to answer anything. He was open, and didn't seem to care if he said something that wasn't the Party line! I liked that a lot!

In the recent years, he's changed. I know he supported Shrub becaue he knows he can't win the Pub vote without the Shrub supporters too, and I'm sure that's why the BS you're hearing today.

The thing is, the RW hates him, and he's now pi**ed off the Dems and the Independants too.

I wouldn't worry about the MSM. They'll get the message from the people sooner or later.
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azmesa207 Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:35 PM
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8. MSM and John MC Cain
John MC cain is a weasel and MSM love a Weasel
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:50 AM
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13. I think so too
He's just a name being floated around for 2008 but I don't think it'll be him though. I've always had this sense that Bush didn't really like McCain at all even after he started whoring around. I think McCain tries to fit in and be "a part of the gang" but he and Frist just aren't very welcomed. Bush has a pretty tight closed circle and only helps those who are truly loyal and have proved it. McCain hasn't done enough for Bush yet. Plus, I agree that whomever is the nominee in 2008 will HAVE to have Bush campaign some for them like Kerry got Clinton to help him. From what I've seen all of the die-hard Bush supporters don't like McCain since the filibuster "compromise" and I don't like him anymore either because of his whoring for Bush when he and Kerry were *supposed* to have been friends. I also don't like him defending everything with the torture with the innocent prisoners since he was one himself. He should know better. Also defending a traitor. I wonder if Bush has anything on him though? I've always wondered that and what goes on behind the scenes with him and Bush and I wonder how McCain's wife feels about all this after everything that happened in 2000 with them.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:30 PM
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5. He's as phony as a ten dollar Rolex
He is as much a "maverick" as the Chimp is a rancher. No one who was truly independent would take what he took from Rove in South Carolina. He not only took it, he came back for seconds. The reason he is on the shows is because he is good for a quote and seems to be a "voice of reason" a lot of the time, but he is really just another partisan political hack.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:37 PM
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9. Chimp's not a rancher?? But he clears so much brush??
I'm so disallusioned!! What's next, that he wasn't born in Texas and is really one of those Northeastern snobs that he attacks so much??
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:41 PM
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10. Well he is a brush clearing fool
I'll give him that. At the end of the day, what can you say? The man could clear brush.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:30 PM
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6. aw shucks
I thought someone would post that obscene pic of McCain sniffing *. Seriously, how could any McCain supporter see that and come away impressed?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:30 PM
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7. he not a bad as most RepugNuts..i think they are just blackmailing him ..
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 05:31 PM by sam sarrha
not that McCain was involved in this link, but the pattern of behavior of many of our elected Congressman and Senators in voting for obvious fascist corporate bills.. and wasting our countries economy and future to foreign powers.. could be explained by blackmail..

http://www.tarpley.net/bush21.htm

http://www.total411.info/2005/02/jeff-gannon-johnny-gosch-hunter.html

how hard is it to slip someone a Ruffie or some bizarre CIA drug and take compromising videos with children other men and/or farm animals.

a small trusted group could betray enough elected officials and influential individuals in a couple years to take over the world.

edited for spl
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:53 AM
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15. I've always wondered myself
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 01:55 AM by FreedomAngel82
if Bush has anything on him. :shrug: I remember around the last election when he was campaigning for Bush I saw an interview of his once and the interviewer asked him about Kerry and the SBVT jerks and I could just very very strongly sense some uncomfortableness and that he didn't want to really be there. He tried to hurry it along and quickly said he was there to support Bush and not bash Kerry. I also remembered that on the Daily show RNC coverage Colbert made an interesting point about McCain. He is, er I guess was, a very popular republican who *had* a lot of really good qualities and Stephen was saying that's what Bush would like associated with him to gain votes and everything. And people can go "hey if McCain says it's true then it must be! He's such a good guy!" Even my mom sometimes falls for his act but I don't think so.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:44 AM
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11. Sellout?? He is the rethugs little bitch-boy...
He won't rock the boat even after shrub and dough-boy effed him up the ass.

I respect McCain for his military service, but he is a door mat for these criminals, and they know he will do whatever they want.

Shrub: "Hey turd blossom, watch what I'm gonna do to McCain. Jump, John, Jump...you baby killer!"

McCain: "How high, Mr. President, how high??"

Shrub: "Did ya see that, Turd blossom? I am the man..."

Turdblossom: "You are the man, George, you are the man. But don't forget who made you the man or you'll be jumping for me!"

Shrub: "You're right, Mr. Rove...I'm sorry..."

Turdblossom: "Now go to your room, Georgie...some of us have work to do."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:51 AM
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14. I love you, man. Hold me.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:56 AM
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17. That's such a photo op
You can tell by his eyes. Look where he's looking. He's not paying attention to anything. Bush is LOVING the crowd. McCain is loving the photo op for 2008.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:08 PM
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19. no
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 07:09 PM by ProgressiveFool
He's smelling Bush's friggin fabric softener! Obscenity!

Now that you mention it, though, the eyes do indicate that he's really not enjoying it. So maybe there's hope for him yet. But he's still a sellout.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:48 AM
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12. When some reporter has the courage to ask...
another McCain lover reporter, "What would you do if a fellow Republican spread rumors you gave your wife VD, actually consorted with the enemy during a war, bore a love child and got your wife hooked on drugs?"

This man has about as much integrity as Bush does sacrifice for this country.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:55 AM
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16. Yes--both McCain and Powell.
Powell was, of course, the architect of the My Lai coverup, and he has always been a total tool for the BushCo administration. But for some damned reason, half the people on DU (and other liberal sites) go on and on about how sad it is that a man of such character and integrity has been besmirched by his association with these bad guys.

Why can't they get it into their heads that he is one of those bad guys? His media-stoked reputaiton was just another media fraud.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:57 AM
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18. I used to think that myself
A fellow Duer got me to read some stuff on Powell and My Lai and no more. Powell is just a whore like the rest of them around Bush.
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ScamUSA.Com Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:09 PM
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20. misfire!
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