got vomit? Peggy Noonan on Hardball

not only that, but Howard FFFFFFFfing FINEman!

glad I haven't eaten yet

Because if you do :puke:

:evilgrin:

NT

won't be watching.......cannot stomach her

I just love it when she call Tweety "Christopher."

THis could be fun, if Matthews is still ticked about the SOTU.

MzPip
:dem:

what's gotten into her?

besides Greenspan?

how funny is that?

is the president a newsreader?

I get it. LOL! :D

Are you absolutely SURE of that? Ol' Greeny looks like he couldn't get it up with a fork lift and a 55gal kit drum of viagra hooked to a sump pump and an IV.

"the CIA can't SAY what's true and what's not; they only provide intelligence.">>>paraphrased------EDIT

OK, then WHO interprets it? who's responsible for determining if the NIger data was TRUE of not?

where stops the buck, you pompous twit? (changed one letter of the preceding word)

Oh, gosh, I just said that these Limeys said that they'd tried, it wasn't like I was trying to scare everyone into thinking Saddam had the bomb.

If the CIA can't certify it as true, then why is it presented as true? This isn't the Soviet Union, the burden of proof is on the the accuser. For some reason, Noonan believes that Republicans are annointed with a given beauty, and all they assert is true, with no need of proof.

Here's the REAL crux of the issue: Junior claimed that incredibly compelling evidence forced him from his peaceful ranch to mount the horse and "git 'em". Every bit of information and "proof" is flimsy, questionable and not the least bit urgent. This proves that nothing leapt out and forced the peaceful types to have to defend all that's good and holy, it just buttresses the argument that they had long since decided what they wanted to do and were just looking for every excuse. Even in the light of pathetic pseudo-excuses it's obvious that they cared nothing about reality or truth, they just wanted to oust Hussein.

In our hour of fear and vulnerability, they cynically TERRORIZED the legislature and people for permission to get family revenge and huge personal financial gain. They used us. They personally violated us and scared us into letting them have their way for mass-murdering adventurism. Probably more than 10,000 human beings are DEAD. Junior may think they're in their afterlife according to whether they were good or not, but I feel they're just dead. That's just a feeling; I KNOW that children and families cry in desolation and poverty so Junior can get personally wealthy from stolen minerals. That I KNOW. Sadness and tears, maimed and bereft people and a newfound army of people who justifiably hate us are now where a moribund and isolated STABLE dictatorship once was.

There was no real evidence, and yet the essence to their argument is that there was unavoidable evidence screaming at them to act. They moved heaven and earth to find justification and couldn't find much of anything but lies and innuendo. They consistently skewed everything to justify their actions.

What all this proves is that this was predetermined and cynically engineered by holding us ransom. It's just what they did in the '02 elections: let us destroy unions or we'll leave you naked to your peril.

They will stop at nothing. Tell them they're ugly.

:o

He's one for the blood-in-the-water approach. Plus, he was initially dubious about the war.

Is the sky falling?

Peggy is:
A. Giving Bush Verbal Blow Jobs
B. Contorting any of Bush's weaknesses into strengths
C. Comparing Bush to Reagan, Abraham Lincoln, and/or George Washington
D. All of the above

A. Giving Bush Verbal Blow Jobs

Has anyone wondered about Peggy Loonan's role in the Reagan administration? She was the proverbial "sweet young thing" who worked closely with the Great Napper and, from the tone of her memoir of those days, sounded pretty much in love with Bonzo. Any chance that she might have been "Ronnie's Monica"...?

Inquiring minds want to know!

The rumor was out that she was Reagans monica. Also, Bush has a Monica but I can't remember who it was. Could it also be Peggy?

;-)

She really does get this orgasmic expression whenever she talks about the son of a bitch. I think that RR "helped" Peg work out some daddy issues. I hope that the RNC strangles her and buries her with him, so that she can continue to service him in the afterlife.

Tweety is pissed, though. Nice. Howard is following him, like the spineless whore he is.

IOW, he is asking Finemand ISN'T BUSH A BUFFOON, LOL!

I loathe him more than CM.

CM repeats over and over that * is just a cipher/Ted Baxter

HF: by trying to give dumbo deniability, they've made him seem out of the loop.

DUHHHHHHHHH!!


he IS out of the loop

CM: is this a coverup, to keep it away from us who put this in the speech?

HF: too organized to be a coverup at this point.

Fineman is going after them, too.

am I imagining this?

Rahm Emanuel on, too!!!!!

he wants to be president.......watch this

Who is now (drumroll, please) BLAMING CLINTON! ("we pulled our agents out of Africa in the nineties. That's where the failure lies.")

We pulled a hidden nuclear program out of somebody's back yard.


did he mean centrifuge parts?

what?

what an IMbecile!!!!

blaming the inefficiency of intelligence on CLINTON!!!

says we pulled out intel operatives in Africa during 90s

I thought they found a 12-year-old piece of a centrifuge (2,499 more needed to make one bomb.)

definitely going to be taping the rerun.

his show with Gergen last week, when Gergen came up with Wilson's NYT oped in the middle of the show, demonstrated how desperate they are to distance Cheney from this, because they KNOW he's the one who's pacemaker is in the wringer over this.

he's the one, mark my words

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=16966

calls Noonan one of the greatest speechwriters of the CENTURY

n/t

in bosnia and Kosovo, NOT a SINGLE american died after the hostilities ended

why didn't he ask why it was put back in before the SOTU?

Matthews is REALLY rolling tonight!!!

Am I in the bizarro world???

SHE'S SUCH A F***ING BUSH WHORE.

Peggy: Take your freakin meds!!!!!!

she must have learned that from the Reagan administration.

Judging from the many times I've watched and listened to her slur and lockjaw her way through punditfests, I'm guessing a combination of Zoloft, Paxil and low-dose Xanax.

The Green Room cocktails can't help either.

All of the above would be somewhat effective in combating the symptoms of a guilty conscience.

stuff recently (in the last 1-2 years).

She's seriously messed up.
"The Rev. John McCloskey, who runs the Catholic Information Center in downtown Washington, D.C., was instrumental in Brownback’s conversion. Brownback, an evangelical who was elected in 1996 with strong support from the Religious Right, had been a United Methodist.
Slate reported Aug. 9 that McCloskey is a traditionalist Catholic and member of Opus Dei, a secretive group of lay Catholics who hold ultra-conservative views. McCloskey’s goal, according to Slate, is to purge the church of liberals.

McCloskey, who previously oversaw the conversion of journalist Robert Novak to Catholicism, worked with U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) to win over Brownback. Santorum, a fan of Opus Dei, asserted recently that several U.S. senators have been "cowed into silence" and won’t talk about God or their faith. U.S. culture and media, he said, "beat us up continuously to drive God out of the public square."

http://www.au.org/churchstate/cs9025.htm

fellates the Bushies again!

What a smarmy, smug bitch.

I think I am gonna :puke: a big one if she calls him Christopher one more time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is up with that?

she just told the biggest whopper of them all, in response to question about why they ignored Tenet's warning in October to Handley about the Niger story:

CIA, CIA, NSC, etal, comPETE to get there stuff in all the time.Ergo, how can they know WHAT's true!!!!!

well, why have intelligence at ALL, you stupid kneejobber?

on top of THAT, if what you say is true, WHY WHY WHY is Tenet the one who's being blamed?

if he's just one among many intel groups, then he should NOT have been singled out.

If I thoughta this, why couldn't tweety?

seriously. maybe it's that whole ronald reagan foot fetish thing of hers. i swear i think she'd do him now, even in the state he's in

How come we could all see that the President was a Ted Baxter sock puppet and all Tweety Bird could see was Duya's tight little ass when he wore jeans down on the pig farm and and the bulge his codpiece made in his flight suit. Fuck you Tweety, you gutless, whoring son of a bitch. Men, women and children are dead or cippled and maimed now because you and the other gutless wonders in the media refused to do the job you were being paid to do. You can kiss my ass

John Fund tried to sneak in the Tenet-was-appointed-by-Clinton thing and Larry said "Here we go; blame Clinton again!"

They used Reagan's words to go effect. Wouldn't it be lovely if Peggy Noonan was the one who wrote those words?!!

I am SO glad someone in the media is finally holding Bush accountable.

No president in the history of the country assumed the job when the country was in such good shape in terms of the economy, crime, status in the world. And no president has done so much damage in such a short time!

You can bet crime will rise as a result of the economy and the cuts in after school programs and Headstart. I honestly believe the Republicans want more criminals so that they can use fear to get elected. Also, their prison-owning buddies make money off the prisoners.

Chris is now saying the Bush & Co are the "Revisionists".

There was no mistake, this was intentional. THe Hawks wanted this war and did whatever it took to get it.

So was Larry O'Donnell. God, it's been so long. I'd forgotten how it feels.

He was all over Fund, tag-teaming with Tweety.

Noonan's use of the word "Christopher" was an attempt to intimidate him. "Bad boy, Christopher." ACTUALLY, I suspect that Catholic school kids like him heard a lot of nuns say a disapproving "Christopher!" I'm sure it was deliberate.

And when she said "we'll be right back" instead of him saying it, Tweety's face was a picture of astonishment.

But he called her "beautiful" at the end of the segment.

watch that or Angelina Jolie on Daily show

ending up with the British under the walnut

what I can tell from talking with the administration is that they're NOT going to cooperate, except from the standpoint of a narrow focus of what was wrong with the intelligence, not with the policy implementation thereof

If she said that one more time I was gonna put yellow cake uranium in her eye shadow case! :nuke:

I do have to hand it to Tweety, he didn't back off from the point which was that KNEW the info was untrue.

Definite mood changes on the Hill, both R's & D's. They want answers, and they're not buying the "Tenet Did It" line.

If Tweety jumps ship - it means it's going down - rats have an instinct for these things.

Jumps ship more often than someone with OCD washes their hands. I have seen him tear into bush one day and praise him the next, most often after putting his finger to the wind. To his credit he was fairly consistent about opposing the war, but then delivered a mea culpa about how he was "wrong" after Baghdad fell. Don't be surprised if he's whoring for the GOP tomorrow.