Conversation with a Bush supporter friend last night

Really it stunned me. She lives in Alabama. Hates Clinton and everything Clinton. She loves George Bush. Long ago we decided not to discuss politics cause I made it known she wouldn't like the truth and wouldn't believe the truth and that time will tell.
Anyways...she was talking about her love of Bush last night (another friend said she was just trying to make me angry--it worked, we aren't speaking), and I said her love of Bush ought to show up everytime she fills up her gas tank--that she is paying for her love.
Her response:
She loved Bush even more because her husband works offshore and EVERYTIME the gas prices go up, her husband gets $100 raise (he is the captain of a boat that carries the oil company personnel to and from shore).
Unreal...but I guess this is the sentiment of the country. I have mine...so fuck you.

Maybe she should look at the other things that high oil prices
affect

Food
Transportation
Politics
Illegal Invasions

They are in essence getting a REAL cost-of-living increase with those types of raises. They won't see the difference because their income is adjusted so that they won't.

that the divide between the parties just gets bigger everyday. How can one relate to them anymore? They are almost inhuman now.

you allways have us.

An oldie, but very appropriate.

Till Bush hands America over to WTO. Not only will she need a prescribtion for herbs and vitamins, but we can't even control our own economy. Dang, libertarianism (a modified form) seems better each day. Can someone be liberal and libertarian?

First, both terms come from the same term.

In simple terms. Libertarians don't want to be told what to do. Liberals help others. No incompatibility there.

BTW, I have Noam Chomsky describe himself as a libertarian socialist. I sometimes cop to that.

--IMM

Sounds like captialistic communist.

At least there are options. I'd prefer more political philosophies to be around to counter neoconservatism and neoliberalism. An edited book could help even if small numbers are sold. DU could ask people to write papers and publish it through CafePress.

libertarian:
1 : an advocate of the doctrine of free will
2 a : a person who upholds the principles of absolute and unrestricted liberty especially of thought and action b capitalized : a member of a political party advocating libertarian principles

liberal:
5 : BROAD-MINDED; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms. (The other definitions did not apply to politics.)

Where's the conflict?:shrug:

--IMM

There is no conflict. (Think of Vader's voice)

Just what is in my head. Libertarians I met gave me stereotypes. Still trying to sort out exactly what they want. Libertarian Party site is helping some I guess.

Many of the libertarians in the Libertarian party have the same relationship to libertarianism that modern Republicans do to the party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt.

Many contemporary libertarians are just free marketeers and corporatists who are against taxes and government regulation of business. Sometimes they are referred to as "Republicans who smoke dope."

This is the case of corporate co-optation of a good principle if applied to individuals.

--IMM

http://politicalcompass.org/

Try the FAQ section, especially question #13. Lots of good info.

In short, the opposite of libertarian is authoritarian, while left and right-wing are opposites. Political compass uses these two scales as two axes on a graph. :)

seriously.

"well mah husband gets a hundert dollars everytahm oil prices go up so I luv that chimp".

yeah and then they proceed to spend that hundred dollars on gas. seriously, your friend sounds like a fucking retard.

Incredibly selfish, no social conscience whatsoever. And they will back up this president to the death; at this point I honestly believe that * could be caught in the oval office with a little boy and the rw will either (1) justify it, or (2) say the boy had it coming.

Boat captains make a good living - thanks to the ILA and the guaranteed wage.

I'm not rich but I make a very good living. I don't mind paying taxes for a better world. These people who are upper middle class or better and gouge and scrounge for every penny are really pigs. I see it every day and I still can't square it.

Her turn in the barrel is coming.

I wouldn't even SPEAK to someone like that, let alone call them a friend.

It's all about me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. :grr:

But the term "selfish cunt" leaps to mind. How can someone actually talk that shit? Doesn't that moron realize that everytime gas goes up, she pays more for food, for groceries, for all plastic goods, for EVERYTHING in her life? What a dumb fuck. I'd just send her a big FUCK YOU, YOU GREEDY UNAMERICAN BITCH note and cut her out of your life for good.

but Mr. kt's parents. And even they are on a limited relationship They sent one too many hate emails to us. We never responded, we just let them vent, let them be the bad guys, and now, I refuse to speak to them at all. Seriously, once every 6 months when we have to be in the same room, I just sit there and basically, completly ignore them. It's great because they don't know what to do!

This "person" is no friend. "it" is a terrible influence and needs to go away... like a tumor.

and haven't seen her since... Nor spoken to her! And fuck her anyway, don't want anything else to do with her EVER!

I just love how these people continue to not only be in denial, but also continue
to lie.

Come on, does anyone buy this $100 raise shit?

Lots of phone sex, I presume?

Okay, I guess she hated the great economy that was Clinton's, & loves the Depression economy of war criminal Bush.

she probably feels the Confederacy should have won, that segregation was justified, and anyone who votes against a Republican is only another traitor who should be shot. :tinfoilhat: