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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:35 PM
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Fitzgerald Better Hurry
If he has anything he would be well advised to act know before this sham of a hearing to discredit him gets underway. The truth is about to be crucified upside down.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:37 PM
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1. I dont think so. nt
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:38 PM
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2. I hope you're right
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:59 PM
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13. So where's an "OldLeftieLawyer" when you need one? n/t
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:05 PM
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15. I was just wondering the same thing Dr.
Where is OldLeftie? I depend on her advice.
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:38 PM
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3. Not.
He wil act when he is ready...he is tough as nails.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:43 PM
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6. I too have a real concern about Pat Roberts' "hearings"
Pre-emptive immunity in exchange for testimony just like they did for the Iran-Contra felons. I believe Judge Roberts was involved in that criminal enterprise as well.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:47 PM
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9. Is that what they did?
Maybe we need a little DU history lesson on that - after all, it's the same players. Pretty likely they will try the same M.O. And I don't really remember how that all went. I wasn't paying attention at the time.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:04 PM
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14. North, Poindexter, Abrams, they all had their felony convictions
overturned because they testified under immunity. Just like the cockroaches they are they never die they just go into hiding until the lights go out.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:37 PM
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17. .
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:38 PM by Stephanie
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:39 PM
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4. The difference is...
... what Fitzgerald is doing is taking place in a REAL court with REAL consequences, not the court of public opinion that doesn't really matter for shit.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:41 PM
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5. but gonzo can fire fitz
the smear needs to come first so that firing seems justified to the sheeple
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:45 PM
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8. Agreed...that was my reason for opening the thread.
Despite what we may want to believe about blind justice.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:48 PM
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10. I don't think he can fire him.
I think he can remove him from his Chicago position but I don't think he can remove him from this case. Can he?
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:24 PM
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18. If Fizt has something on *,
no way * fires him. Just because the lead prosecutor is fired, the investigation will not stop ... in fact, it will be a public relations nightmare...see the Saturday Night Massacre ....
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:53 PM
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11. I am not sure about that
Gonzales is recused from the case. I don't know who can fire him.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:43 PM
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7. Yes! This court currently is untouchable. nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:55 PM
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12. I agree but they CANNOT fire him with out a FIRE STORM.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 09:56 PM by autorank
They're vile and underhanded, to wit, Senator Roberts supposedly holding hearings on the progress of the Fitzgerald investigation.

Before I responded I checked to see which DC area grand jury Fitzgerald was using.

If you want to really nail someone and move at break-neck speed for any court system, you'd use the Eastern District, Virginia. That district is famous for speed and efficiency. It may or may not be a liberal panel.

If you want to really nail a the "powerful" or a nasty Republican and move at a speed of your choice, you'd use the District of Columbia grand jury.

http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1083899,00.html

Here's what Matt Cooper, reporter who gave up his sources, said:
"Grand juries are in the business of handing out indictments, and their docility is infamous. A grand jury, the old maxim goes, will indict a ham sandwich if a prosecutor asks it of them. But I didn't get that sense from this group of grand jurors. They somewhat reflected the demographics of the District of Columbia. The majority were African American and were disproportionately women. ... These grand jurors did not seem the types to passively indict a ham sandwich. I would say one-third of my 2 1/2 hours of testimony was spent answering their questions, not the prosecutor's, although he posed them on their behalf. I began to take notes but then was told I had to stop, so I'm reliant on memory."

We'll see. I think that this is a motivated group led by a highly motivated prosecutor. Time is of the essence, unless he's going after Bush or Cheney, in which case, he must have all details in place.

Wouldn't it be funny if he was able to get Judith Miller's testimony from a jail house snitch at the Alexandria Womens Correctional Facility.

:rofl:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:07 PM
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16. i read that there were 10 african american women on GJ..n/t
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:37 PM
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19. here is a comment by Tom Flocco
A comprehensive grand jury investigation, with subpoenas, testimony and interrogation by independent, a-political career prosecutors like Patrick Fitzgerald could well blow the lid off 30+ years of illegal operations, financial terrorism, 9.11 mass murder, the Oklahoma City bombing, the Kennedy assassination and pre-emptive war based upon lies--a lengthy pattern of illegal activities by a succession of White House crime families, according to both Webb and V. K. Durham.

http://www.stewwebb.com/Financial%20terrorism%20towers%20over%20September%2011%20by%20Tom%20Flocco.htm

heads up
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:37 AM
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21. Color me surprised and blown away... nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:59 PM
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20. Malloy told earlier tonight
that he's up in October. So he'll have to be done either then or before then. I hope he hurries too.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:29 AM
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22. What's the statutes of limitations on the (potential) crimes ? n/t
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WeirdHoward Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:47 AM
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23. Fitzgerald isn't leak happy
If you remember the Starr investigation, he leaked daily to the press. Fitzgerald is pursuing this matter in the appropriate way. It's not as satisfying for those of us who want to see justice served right away, but I trust and hope that it will be in due time. I'm expecting indictments this fall sometime.

-wh
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