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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:11 AM
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The Bush hand gesture: a three-frame sequence
He's either flipping off the media or his right thumb belongs in the Guinness Book of World Records. But, to my eye, the middle frame shows most accurately that he raised his middle finger.

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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:15 AM
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1. next frame or so...


thumb turned over.

definitely, without question, a thumb.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:24 AM
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6. it is a bush trademark:the finger. jeb did it to a few womenseniorcitizens
who were protesting him at a mall in tallahassee when he wizzed by in a little sports car that he had, and as he wizzed by, he gave them the finger too and that truly is how the bushes feel about the world. it is their rule of law, you are with me, all the way without questioning me, or you are the enemy the bushes... they are so primitive...all that money and power has not bought them one ounce of compassion, refinement, or humanistic souls.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:37 AM
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13. A middle finger detached from your other three fingers and set on
the left side of your hand COULD be useful, but I never noticed it on Bush.

And, yes, the Guiness Book might be interested in that, too.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:28 AM
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40. ridiculous, impossible to hold one's hand in that manner
It is a finger. maybe index finger or middle finger but most definitely a finger
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:20 AM
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2. It's a thumb, it's been confirmed
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:22 AM
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4. Too long for a thumb!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:29 AM
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8. Horse shit.
:eyes:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:33 AM
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9. Who confirmed it?
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:35 AM
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10. i did.
in the first reply. pretty clear.

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/bush-flips-press.mov

watch yourself. pause the clip and go through frame by frame using your arrow keys. it's the thumb.

that is, unless, you can recreate a situation where his middle finger is able to slide across his hand and separate like that.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:39 AM
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14. a) link doesnt work. b) raise your own arm like that and see for yourself
that is no thumb.
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:42 AM
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15. it's quicktime
if you don't have it you can't see it.

try it myself? sure...thumb up, wrist turned to show the imaginary group of people behind me, thumb down.

yeah, that works.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:45 AM
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16. I did. It is not a thumb. Here's a larger frame.
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 01:53 AM by Fridays Child
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:49 AM
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17. Looks like a thumb.
Can even see his index and middle fingers outlined on the left side.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:46 AM
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29. HAhahahaa
You must be almost blind or working for the Bush admin. Which is it?

:)

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:04 AM
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34. It's been pretty well proved that it's his thumb. nt
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:18 AM
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39. Not to my eyes it hasn't
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:52 AM
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18. find the same frame
as i posted. shouldn't be hard. then tell yourself it's not a thumb.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:55 AM
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19. That frame shows him relaxing his hand and bringing it back down...
...after he executed the hand gesture in question. It has no bearing on the issue.
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:06 AM
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21. alright...
just because i've got the time and the ever so rare certainty that i'm right, i'll break it down frame by frame for you. just you though...because i care.



thumb up, knuckles out. (as seen in yours as well)



ooh...what's that, that's a strange tilt to the left. how could that be the middle finger?



oh that's easy, because it's not.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:45 AM
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28. Not to my satisfaction, you didn't
Not at all.


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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:36 AM
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11. and it was confirmed exactly how?
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:21 AM
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3. wasnt there an older video
Of Bush giving the finger, before a interview in Texas, when Bush was young.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:23 AM
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5. I'll ry and find it; it was hilarious! n/t
n/t
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:24 AM
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7. Try here: (the one finger vicory salute)
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 01:26 AM by Nevernose
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2654327?ifilmp=99&htv=12

Though I haven't actually watched past the commercials from this sourse yet, it's nice to know how they're SUPPOSED to treat women in Texas.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:37 AM
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12. It's his thumb, I'm convinced.
It's not a middle finger. What convinced me is the width of his wrist. Look at that third shot. Does anyone actually think he has the narrowest wrists of any human being? That's his wrist from the side, which means that can't be the middle finger we're looking at, it's his thumb.

Sorry. Jump me, whatever, I don't care. I hate the motherfucker to pieces, but that's his thumb.
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:11 AM
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23. LOL
I hate the motherfucker to pieces, but that's his thumb.


LOL. You should do stand-up comedy. Seriously!
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:20 AM
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26. it is a thumb... too bad.. bush say f you in many other ways..
I do wish it was... it is telling that people and the media think he would do that (I think he would)... and the stark fact we dont trust a damn thing they say or do... but I'm honest to myself, and that really is a thumb.. the wrist is turned sideways.. look at the wrist and hand widths.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:56 AM
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20. Back, and to the Left.
Back, and to the Left.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:07 AM
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22. OK I hate Bush too, but truth is more important. It's a thumbs up.

There's no point in making up lies to make Bush look bad, He already looks bad. So we should be satisfied sticking with the truth. He was giving the thumbs up gesture. No question about it.

Have whatever fantasies you want, but please let's not play fast and loose with the truth like the Repugs do.
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:14 AM
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24. Sorry, bud
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 02:44 AM by wookie294
Bush is the typical angry white male who knows he can't actually flip the bird to the media without reprisals. So, he flips the bird in a stealth way. It's so obvious the finger is the "FUCK YOU" finger.

C'mon, people. Bush is a radical and a fanatic. Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. He flipped you the bird and he's laughing at you for frantically searching for a reason to believe a sitting president would "never" do such a "dastardly" thing. He hates you. He's an asshole. He's a prick. Of course he would find a way to flip you off without causing a media storm. He achieved that same goal in Iraq, thanks to you folks who think Bush can't be **THAT** radical. Well, he **IS** that radical. Stop acting like the New York Times and Judith Miller. Bush told you to fuck-off and you're frantically seeking excuses to explain his immature behavior. STOP IT! Bush is LAUGHING at you.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:26 AM
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27. WOW dude.. get a grip! no ones giving him any benefit of doubt..
we are objectivly looking at the picture, forget WHO it is and look at the details... like investigation, notice the relative width in the wrist and hand... this hand is NOT facing back of hand to camera. The thumb is extended with arm extended... hold your own arm up and point the thumb to the ceiling.

truth matters..
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:47 AM
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30. *ding* *ding* *ding*
On the nose, buddy, on the nose.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:24 AM
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37. Agree!
:applause: Just consider what he was giving his "thumbs up" for. Arm twisting for CAFTA. That is a big fuck you to American workers.
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BornLeft Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:11 AM
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35. Why not?
It works well for them. People are so afraid of getting a little dirty and then bend over some more. Screw that, It's his middle finger and i swear on my child it is. If it gets him closer to being impeached so be it and i can live with feeling dirty about this.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:57 AM
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25. He does have a long thumb
if you look in the other thread there is a post that says something like "lets compare", which has a thumbs up from the side.

He has a super long thumb! Here it is:

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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:52 AM
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31. I have no idea what it is
But in the third frame, it appears to be different color than the rest of his hand. It also appears that it is not attached to his hand.
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WeirdHoward Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:56 AM
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32. He's saying FU to America
Why does he hate America so much?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:58 AM
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33. he'd start two wars on a whim, but he surely wouldn't make a rude gesture
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:16 AM
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36. It doesn't make any difference if it's a thumb or middle finger....
Because he's already fist-fucked America.
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:27 AM
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38. look at this frame and tell me it isn't a thumb
you people want it to be a finger but it is not

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