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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:06 PM
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Deleted dupe. recommend other discussion!!!
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 12:46 PM by peabody71
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:09 PM
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1. Saw him testify at the hearings in Columbus in December
He was the only witness who was sworn in.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:11 PM
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2. Why isn't this the headline of the NYT?
There have been some references to this here on DU, including the sworn testimony referred to by the second post.

Kicked!
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:13 PM
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3. Wikipedia has some interesting details..
Allegations

Specifically he alleged that:

* At the behest of Rep. Tom Feeney, in September 2000, he was asked to write a program for a touchscreen voting machine that would make it possible to change the results of an election undetectably. This technology, explaned Curtis, could also be used in any electronic tabulation machine or scanner. Curtis (a lifelong Republican) assumed initially that this effort was aimed at detecting Democrat fraud, but later learned that it was intended to benefit the Republican Party. West Palm Beach was named as an intended target, but used punched card ballots in the 2000 elections; Curtis explained that the software could be used in any electronic tabulation machine or scanner. Curtis gave testimony under oath about this to the House Judiciary Committee Democrats on 2004-12-13.
* YEI employed Hai Lin "Henry" Nee, an illegal Chinese national, to work on a NASA contract and assisted him in passing secrets to the Chinese government. This included large NASA databases that were downloaded by the owner of the company and passed to Nee. Nee has since pled guilty to violating export regulations and received a $100 fine and a 3 year probation after admitting that he sent military secrets (missile guidance chips) to the capital of Communist China over 20 times.
* The owner's brother was thrown out of the country for spying and that the owner continuously passed information to this brother in China.
* YEI defrauded the Florida Department of Transportation. They were later found to have made "questionable charges" of $248,255. This was only a preliminary finding as the department was not allowed access to either the company's books or to interview their employees. Curtis filed a legal action to force a full investigation of fraud against the state.



Response to Allegations

YEI denies these allegations, and stated that Curtis was a disgruntled employee but withdrew these charges after Curtis produced a going away card from a party thrown in his honor.

Tom Feeney was quoted as saying the charges are,“some of the most ridiculous, fictional charges you could ever imagine.” Mr. Feeney also states that,“I don’t remember meeting Mr. Curtis.”


Investigations

Various people have investigated Curtis' claims, including Rep. John Conyers, Sen. Bill Nelson, the FBI, and CREW. No one has yet to find a single incident where Curtis allegations have been shown to be incorrect.

Raymond C. Lemme, a Florida DOT investigator, spent about a year investigating and told Curtis that he "had tracked the corruption 'all the way to the top', that the story would 'break in the next few weeks' and he would be satisfied with the results". This conversation occurred two weeks before his unexpected death on June 30, 2003, an apparent suicide in a town located 80 miles from where he resided.

On March 3, 2005, Curtis took a polygraph test. The test was given by Tim Robinson, the retired chief polygraph operator and 20-year veteran of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. In the results, Curtis was found to be completely truthful in all his responses. The test was based on all the allegations in the affidavit that was provided to several members of Congress.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Curtis
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:22 PM
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4. This much is true
No one has been able to successfully discredit him.
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:35 PM
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8. So what does it take to actually get an official investigation? (nt)
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:48 PM
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11. I don't know
Even if Clinton Curtis' testimony can't be proven, I don't know why the Dems didn't fight the obvious, already proven irregularities like voter intimidation and supression (not enough machines, broken machines, horrendously long lines, etc). It just makes me sick.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:24 AM
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13. I'm having trouble getting past this part
Nee has since pled guilty to violating export regulations and received a $100 fine and a 3 year probation after admitting that he sent military secrets (missile guidance chips) to the capital of Communist China over 20 times

THAT is the punishment for passing military secrets? Gee, he's lucky he wasn't sent to his room with no dinner and no TV privileges for a week.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:25 PM
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5. This is old news, but on the other hand I really do not know how
much the Government and the LMSM wants this information to come out. The reason for this is the powers that be do not want open revolt. This is also the reason I think that some people want to clamp down on the Internet. I am sure a indictments on the Bush Jr. Administration will slow down repression.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:28 PM
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6. I had never seen this clip.
Besides it shouldn't simply be forgotten.
I sent it to every republican I know.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:30 PM
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7. Thanks for posting this today. Sure glad to have seen it.
Sure glad he got his message this far and to those people.

I really hope he'll be safe now.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:38 PM
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9. BRAD BLOG- KEY ARTICLES IN THE STORY SO FAR...
BRAD BLOG- KEY ARTICLES IN THE STORY SO FAR...

KEY ARTICLES IN THE SERIES SO FAR...

· 12/6/04:  EXCLUSIVE: Original "WHISTLEBLOWER AFFIDAVIT" Story
A BRAD BLOG Exclusive! The story that started it all! Florida programmer, Clint Curtis, tells all about the original meeting in 2000 when Tom Feeney, the incoming speaker of the FL House & one-time running mate of Jeb Bush, asked him to create a "vote-rigging software prototype" while employeed at Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI)! 

· 12/6/04:  EXCLUSIVE: Curtis' Affidavit
A copy of the actual affidavit outline Curtis' charges.

· 12/7/04:  BRAD BLOG Responds to Concerns of Bev Harris
BRAD BLOG replies to concerns of Black Box Voting's Harris who was skeptical originally about Curtis' claims, but has since retracted the bulk of her concerns since BRAD BLOG posted this and responded to her questions.

· 12/8/04:  Clint Curtis Radio Interviews
Media appearances by Curtis after the story originally broke.

· 12/9/04:  Good Questions & Answers
BRAD BLOG answers the skeptics questions.

· 12/11/04: YEI & Attorneys Respond
Initial terse replies by Yang and company.

· 12/13/04: EXCLUSIVE: STUNNER! CURTIS TESTIFIES UNDER OATH TO U.S. HOUSE JUDICIARY DEMS! NAMES FEENEY PUBLICLY!
Curtis shows up to testify under oath! A first-hand report from inside the hearing room!

· 12/13/04: Video (and Transcript) from Curtis' Sworn Testimony!
The stunning video tale of the tape!

· 12/14/04: EXCLUSIVE: Hai Lin "Henry" Nee Pleads Guilty Oct '04 on 'Missile Parts to China' Charge, Set Free!
Illegal alien reported by Curtis as working for YEI is indicted on three counts of espionage, pleads guilty to one, and is let go with probation and a $100 fine! What's going on here?!

· 12/15/04: YEI Issues "Full Statement"...BRAD BLOG Replies In-Kind! With EVIDENCE!
Full statement by company posted on their website. Contains several demonstrably incorrect statements. BRAD BLOG responds to each point, and includes Email evidence and Weekly Time Reports which indicates they are not telling the truth in many points of their statement!

· 12/17/04: Feeney's HOMETOWN PAPER Reports "Vote-Rigging" Charges!
Florida's small weekly paper, The Seminole Chronicle, reports on Curtis' affidavit and his testimony before U.S. House Judiciary Committee members!
· 12/18/04: Curtis Week 2 Media Links & FULL Sworn Testimony Video!
More Curtis media appearances...

· 12/22/04: EXCLUSIVE: Disgrunted employee" charge once again debunked with hard evidence! "Farewell Card" given to Clint Curtis by YEI's CEO! 
A scan of the card given to Curtis at the "Farewell Party" thrown by YEI for him! Including statement by YEI CEO telling him "the door is open" anytime he wishes to return!

· 12/22/04: MSNBC's Olbermann blows story! BRAD BLOG sets it straight!
Keith Olbermann finally reports on the story. Only to get it completely wrong and provide an un-factchecked, one-sided account of the story from the Feeney, YEI point of view. Fails to interview Curtis or check unnamed YEI attorneys bogus claims.

· 12/24/04: EXCLUSIVE: Feeney Attorney Threatens Reporter with LEGAL ACTION!
Seminole Chronicle receives warning letter from Feeney attorneys for simply reporting on this story!

· 12/29/04: EXCLUSIVE: YEI Attorneys send 'Virtually Identical' LEGAL THREAT to Hometown Paper!
YEI Attorneys sending matching letter to Seminole Chronicle! Signed by attorney who was out of the country at the time! Who wrote the YEI Attorney letter?

· 12/30/04: Feeney Statements to Ethics Commission 'Contradicted' by 2002 Email!
Investigation by Daytona Beach News-Journal in 2002 showed that Florida State Ethics Commission whitewashed report on Feeney! Illegally failed to interview key witnesses and review uncovered email showing that Feeney lied to hand-picked commission!

· 12/31/04: Feeney Goes "Off Record" for his OTHER Hometown Paper!
Oviedo Voice gives Feeney's point of view in promised interview, but Feeney refused to go on record for it!

· 2/9/05: Broward/Palm-Beach Paper Enters Feeney, Yang, Curtis Fray!
New Times Broward Palm-Beach issues first report on FeeneyGate! Shows that Curtis' various non-vote-rigging charges have all largely been proven correct over the past three years!

· 2/9/05: YEI Offered Curtis $1 Million for No-Work/No-Show Job!
PLUS: Curtis Answers BRAD BLOG Reader Q's!
A report from Brad Friedman's live Interview with Clint Curtis in UT at the Freedom Cinema Festival. Charges of "hush money" offered by YEI and possibly Feeney to Curtis discussed for first time on BRAD BLOG!

· 2/13/05: Has Hai Lin Nee (a/k/a Henry Nee) turned YEI Informant to the FBI?
Time Magazine article discusses the number of Chinese aliens turning informant for the FBI. Could this be why Nee received such a light sentence in October of 2004 after a four-year sting?

· 2/18/05: EXCLUSIVE: YEI Attorney's Alleged Curtis "Threat" to "Firm and Top Officers" Discovered! Police Report shows not "Threatening" at all!
"In writing" letter reported as so threatening as to require a police report, which was irresponsibly reported by MSNBC's Keith Olbermann is discovered by BRAD BLOG! Letter seems meant as effort to help YEI CEO's executive secretary Mike Cohen, not "threaten" him! YEI may have put Cohen up to it!

· 2/21/05: EXCLUSIVE: Hai Lin "Henry" Nee Confirmed by Federal Officials to be an Illegal Alien!
Report obtained exclusively by The BRAD BLOG from the FDOT Inspector General, validates yet another Clint Curtis Allegation! Nee,the convicted Chinese spy, was illegal when he worked for YEI who also petitioned INS on his behalf!

· 2/28/05: Feeney Caught Lying Again About His Association with Yang Enterprises!
BRAD BLOG discovers private party/reception thrown by Yang Enterprises Inc. for Tom Feeney in 2003! Even while Feeney has been telling media that he's had no connection with the scandal-plagued FL software firm since 2002!

· 3/2/05: FDOT's CLINT CURTIS REPORT RELEASED! - Tom Feeney Client, Yang Enterprises, Overbilled FDOT! Refund Demanded!
Report based on investigation initiated by Clint Curtis confirms YEI overcharged some $300k to Florida Dept. of Transportation...Chalk yet another one up for the veracity of Clint Curtis!

· 3/8/05: CLINT CURTIS INVESTIGATOR'S 'SUICIDE' CASE REOPENED BY GEORGIA POLICE! CRIME SCENE PHOTOS -- SAID NOT TO EXIST -- ARE POSTED ON NET! CONFIRMED BY GEORGIA POLICE!
Raymond Lemme, the first investigator in Florida to look into Curtis' charges, had told Curtis in June 2003 that "the corruption goes 'all the way to the top" and his report would be out soon. Two weeks later, Lemme was found dead in a Valdosta, GA motel room. Crime scene photos -- said not to exist in the police report -- are published on the net! The photos, additional evidence and unexplained FDOT involvement with the Valdosta, GA police investigation raise new questions in this mysterious death!

· 4/7/05: The Moscow Times Covers the Clint Curtis Story!
While the American Media continues to yawn...But perhaps not for too much longer...

· 4/8/05: CLINT CURTIS PASSES LIE-DETECTOR TEST!!!
St. Petersburg Times' Pulitzer Prize winning reporter, Lucy Morgan gets a big break in the story! Then, she goes about screwing up the rest of it with incorrect information, omission, unbalanced comments from Feeney's side only and other object lessons in the failure of the Mainstream Media
· 4/13/05: Miami Herald Discusses Clint Curtis, Decries E-Voting!
For the first time that we know of, Miami Herald mentions the C-Word...Clint Curtis!

· 4/13/05: Clint Curtis Makes Wisconsin's Capital Times!
Who ask, "Is your vote being counted?"

· 4/22/05: Clint Curtis Story Makes Papers Around the Country and Around the World!
(UPDATE: Story also makes its way into Philadelphia Enquirer on 4/26/05)

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Link to full stories-
http://www.bradblog.com/ClintCurtis.htm
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:42 PM
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10. Can we combine this with the other discussion?
Should be nominated as one discussion.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:24 PM
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12. Cliff shared his vote hacking program at the "Nash-ional" conference...
... with us. Only 24 lines of computer code to subvert the "secure" DREs.

Cliff is the most honorable Republican, and one of the bravest and most patriotic Americans, I am proud to know.
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