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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:03 AM
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DU Project: California Recall / Censorship going on...
IMO we really need to work on this because the election is coming up FAST. There's all kinds of articles out there on the internet - even from a few "mainstream" papers.

ABC actually "censored" an article that Drudge wrote about Arnold.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/9/1/121057.shtml
"ABC News has spiked an interview with Rick Wayne, a bodybuilding friend of 35-years to Arnold Schwarzenegger, who described racist comments allegedly uttered by the movie star-turned-politician, according to Internet reporter Matt Drudge."

Drudge and the Freepers even have tons of stuff out there about him because THEY don't like him.


I've found articles about him making "racist remarks", "{anti-semitic" remarks, "sexist remarks."

I know some might think this is "semi-sleazy" bit in my mind someone as sleazy and morally bankrupt as "musclehead" deserves it - and this is WAR.

There's stuff about his connections to Scientology, he had a 7 year affair with a 14 year girl (statuatory rape).

This stuff needs to get out there because the media will not cover it.

Do a "google search" on him...

For those who are "newbies" and don't know how:

go to http://www.google.com/

and put these terms in the search box:

Schwarzenegger affair
Schwarzenegger racist
Schwarzenegger nazi
Schwarzenegger affair
Schwarzenegger anti-semitic
Schwarzenegger gay
Schwarzenegger rent boy
Schwarzenegger sleazy
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:05 AM
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1. Also
Get ready to hit the pavement with the recall Schwarzenegger movement on October 8th if he somehow slips in there on October 7th.
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:13 AM
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2. I am so there...
Except we have to wait 6 months before we file....


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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:20 AM
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4. I think that's only 6 months for another recall against DAVIS
A recall against Arnold can start immediately, and is already planned and in the works. Saw another post by NSMA - it's a done deal - if Arnold is elected another recall WILL HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY :D
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:00 PM
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8. Untrue.
This waiting period does not apply here. If it did, there would be no recall right now against Davis--they only "waited" weeks before starting the filing process, etc. This only applies to when a recall fails, and people want to start another one against the same official.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:44 PM
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20. We can start getting the signatures right away can't we?
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Jivenwail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:14 AM
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3. According to what I read, heard and saw this AM...
The Groper looks like a shoe-in at this point.

It boggles my mind to think that our friends in CA could be that deaf, dumb and blind to him.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:29 AM
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5. seems the fix is in . . .
touch screen machines all set to be manipulated . . . polls being manipulated in advance to support Ahnold's victory . . . just the way it's going to happen in the 2004 presidential race . . . and the Dems don't seem to care . . . sad . . . and scary . . .
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:33 AM
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6. They are quoting a BS Poll by USA Today
all around the clock.

L.A. Times still stands by "anything could happen-too close to call"
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:56 AM
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7. We're NOT
The media is stumping for Arnie 24x7 and publishing bogus polls.
The election may be equally bogus, since the Diebold Republican Electing Machinez are in place.

If they can steal this election, they can do it everywhere and we are doomed.
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:09 PM
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13. even in non-Cal states that is all we hear
is Arnie, Arnie. I am sick of seeing this big bully every 30 minutes on the news, and i don't even live in California!
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:02 PM
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9. Ugh! Enough of this...
I'm sorry but please... the polls are all over the place. You'll see other polls with a VERY different story soon. This cannot be predicted by polls.
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AmeriCanadian Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:04 PM
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10. ... Tough Shit !!!
... Too many of us Democratics are just flat fed up with the mudslinging.

... It is neither dignified nor honorable. If "Our" platform insists on, and counts on name calling to win, you can count on mine and my friends and families votes going elsewhere!

... Stop senseless, emotional and negative campaigning!
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:08 PM
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12. Uh - aren't you Canadian???
How can you vote for a Democrat????
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:25 PM
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14. A fine, noble attitude
that will allow you to retain your cherished principles , hugging them close to your chest as the fascists goosestep by while you wonder where your freedom went.

I used to agree with you, but then I discovered the playing field has changed. If you're not willing to win at all costs then the enemy has won. Because they ARE.

I did not start this and I wish it were otherwise but you have to understand, these people, these neoconservatives, they are like fire ants. You literally have to completely stomp them out or they keep coming and coming.

Maybe you need a lesson on their philosphy and its progenitors.
Start with Grover Norquist. Or Read "Blinded by the Right" by David Brock.

Perhaps then you'll see why we are seeing the disagreeable strategies coming out of the wood work.

You have to use poison to kill vermin my friend.
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AmeriCanadian Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:30 PM
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15. ... So? You're advocating fighting from a position of weakness,
... lies, hatefullness, cheating and every other tool that turns off the American public.

... I don't see it pal.

... BTW, I'm an American, I just enjoy visiting Canada.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:24 PM
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19. and too many Dems trashing davis without being tombstoned
There has been no mudslinging by Davis,yet. He had better get started xcause the pukes/media are trashing him 24/7
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:05 PM
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11. WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 12:06 PM by Capn Sunshine
we MUST get out the democratic majority. This will be accomplished by phone banking and precinct walking in some neighborhoods.

Call your union locals or democratic organizations near you and volunteer to lend a hand

Phone bank from home! Contact my pals at MoveOn:

http://moveon.org/pac/pb/standup.html

It's not too late to counter the big propaganda push.
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nn2004 Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:43 PM
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16. Using "Schwarzenegger gay" as an attack on him
No self-respecting progressive Democrat would use "gay" as a slur.

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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:04 PM
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17. No that refers to his slurs on gays - Queer Nation called him "bigot"
Sorry - I guess I didn't make that clear.

http://www.dallasvoice.com/articles/dispArticle.cfm?Article_ID=3328

Schwarzenegger was the target of a campaign by the early ’90s activist group Queer Nation, which accused him of homophobia.
Speaking at a George Bush campaign rally at Pinkerton military academy in Derry, N.H., on Feb. 15, 1992, Schwarzenegger said: “We don’t talk about those Democrats. I watched that debate and they all looked like a bunch of girlie men.”

Queer Nation denounced Schwarzenegger as a “bigot” and a “blatant homophobe,” and charged his attitude underscored “the anti-gay agenda of the Bush/Quayle campaign.”

“Once again, Bush’s henchmen divide the nation by promoting hatred of a minority — the queer community,” Queer Nation spokesman Tim McCarthy said at the time.

“It sickens me to see the president of the United States endorse homophobia and advocate anti-gay violence,” added the group’s Stephen Smith.

.....In 1996, Schwarzenegger cracked a joke about fitness guru Richard Simmons.... The day you see me campaign for Ted (Kennedy)will be the day there will be little Richard Simmons Juniors running around.”

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:24 PM
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18. Bartcop has a new pic of ARNOLD today
Beware....X rated and GOP family values

http://www.bartcop.com/arnie-playboy.htm
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