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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:15 PM
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Bob Novak to discuss situation today on "Crossfire" at 4:30pm EST.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:16 PM
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1. more like
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 03:16 PM by Cush
"Novak says he made it all up"

never mind that other reporters know about it
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:16 PM
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2. Anybody giving a "blow by blow" for those souls without cable?
Please????
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:17 PM
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3. I will at 4:30 Im waiting patiently
I also waited for Shumers press conference all day but the mediawhores ignored it..

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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:29 PM
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8. Thank you, had to give mine up months ago, I have grown ...
accustomed to eating and needed the spare cash to do so. I know, the economy is recovering..blah blah blah!
It would be most appreciated to hear how this scum sucking poor excuse for a mouse slimes his way out of it. Thanks RR
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:18 PM
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4. I can't believe he is going to discuss this on live tv
I hope his lawyer has gone over everything he needs to keep his mouth shut about. Wilson was very careful with his words.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:20 PM
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5. I hope he messes up and exposes all kinds of people
It would make me smile =)
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:23 PM
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6. LOL, Eyebrows poppin' off, sources screamed into the mic
Poor Novakula, he is really in the shit now!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:32 PM
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13. I'm glad you mentioned those eyebrows!
I swear I saw an eyebrow flipping upwards on day! It was like hanging there!

I was alone at the time and didn't have an opportunity to get a second opinion.



Were you just joking?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:28 PM
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7. and Wilson will be with Buchanan and Press at 6pm ET
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:30 PM
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9. Kick
time for the spin???
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:30 PM
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10. Starting now
:bounce:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:30 PM
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11. ON NOW, EAST COAST
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:31 PM
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12. Please keep up posted about what is said...
thanks
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:32 PM
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14. wooooooo weeeeeeee
Begala Rocks !
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:32 PM
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15. here we go!
I've been waiting all day for this!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:32 PM
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16. the lying starts
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 03:34 PM by Cush
No one from the WH talked to me....bullshit

THen why did the Post say 6 other reporters wre contacted by WH Officials?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:32 PM
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17. Here we go!!
breaking with the leak!
Begala starting on story
about the leak, Its a Felony, etc..
Novack talking...reserving his say for Crossfire..says no one in the WH leaked this to him....
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:35 PM
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20. How shocking! Novak protects the WH!
Boy, I'm so surprised that Novak would try to protect the White House.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:37 PM
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28. Well, I still do not understand what happened. n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:35 PM
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21. OK - Novak covers for WH - but does WH do the require openness -will
media ever ask the WH if they are doing the "required" moves?

From the ABCnote:

"Has President Bush made clear to the White House staff that only total cooperation with the investigation will be tolerated? If not, why not?

Has he insisted that every senior staff member sign a statement with legal authority that they are not the leaker and that they will identify to the White House legal counsel who is?

Has Bush required that all sign a letter relinquishing journalists from protecting those two sources? Has Bush said that those involved in this crime will be immediately fired? If not, why not?

Has Albert Gonzalez distributed a letter to White House employees telling them to preserve documents, logs, records? If not, why not?

Has Andy Card named someone on his staff to organize compliance? If not, why not?

White House officials who might have legal or political exposure on this are going to have to decide whether to hire lawyers or not, and the White House counsel's office is going to have to decide what legal help they can and should provide to officials if and when the DOJ wants to talk to them.

That means that the '90s practice of every Washington bureau of calling members of the bar to see who has hired whom is about to heat back up. The first one to report someone hiring a criminal lawyer wins a prize, as does the first person who develops that lawyer as a source on all this.

A reminder that students of recusal politics will have to consider the Rove-Ashcroft history"

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:50 PM
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54. Easy to lie on a TV Show - Let's hear him under oath...
especially when there are 5 other journalists who could prove he was lying!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:33 PM
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18. OH NO!
Did he just say that Wilson told him?????????????
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:35 PM
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22. Update us poor cube rats!
This may make this whole story moot if Wilson told him.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:38 PM
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29. no, not at all.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 03:38 PM by Dookus
He made the distinction between "The white house called me" and "I was interviewing a senior white house official".

He makes no secret that a senior administration figure(two of them in fact) told him that Plame worked for the CIA.

He says he won't reveal his source.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:44 PM
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42. thanks so much!
i walked in the room just as he was beginning to speak. i hope we can get the transcript. that weasle sounded like he memorized a prepared speech.

thanks again for clarifying!

and good for ford! he's putting novack i his place, now!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:40 PM
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37. No way
Joe Wilson STILL will not say that his wife is a CIA agent -- he knows the drill.

Even during the interviews about this incident, Wilson's been prefacing each statement with 'hypothetically speaking, if my wife WERE a CIA operative...", etc, etc... He has NOT come out and said she was (and in fact, has also described why it would be bad for Novak to name her as one if she WEREN'T an agent).

I was not really sure myself whether she was or wasn't an agent until I read that the CIA had requested an investigation (and I've been following the story since it broke).

I don't buy that Wilson told Novak. No way.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:35 PM
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19. Did Novack commit a felony?
just askin...
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:39 PM
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31. No.
It is not against the law for a reporter to publish what he knows.
Whoever leaked to him broke the law. Novak did not.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:49 PM
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52. However---could he be charged with withholding evidence?
Or as an accessory after a crime? I know journalists can go to jail for refusing to name sources in some situations; could this be one?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 04:00 PM
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64. No...
the only time, afaik, that journalists have been jailed is under a contempt of court citation. I don't know of any journalist being jailed under a criminal conviction for publishing truthful information.

Now, it's possible that Novak could be charged with contempt if there were a criminal grand jury investigation, but I doubt that will happen. There are enough people who know the leakers' identities. I think the identities will be revealed without trying to force Novak to talk.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:36 PM
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23. Novak says no one should go to jail
:eyes:
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:40 PM
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35. Yeah, especially him...
:evilgrin:
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:36 PM
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24. Begala doesn't believe the CA Poll
says he's talked to insiders and its closer than what the poll says
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:36 PM
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25. Gee Novak, if it wasn't such a big deal
then why did 6 other reporters not want to touch it with a 100 ft poll?
Novak is in over his head.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:37 PM
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26. Yup
too late to cover his ass
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:38 PM
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30. And why does the CIA
disagree with your bilious self?
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:40 PM
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36. Riiight. The CIA asks DoJ to investigate WH all the time!
Happens almost every day!
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:41 PM
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40. Or, to put it another way...
...Novak is in over his pasted-on eyebrows.
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:37 PM
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27. Is that it????
What a fucking rip off!

on to ahhhnold....

after briefly addressing this by saying that no one called him, that he was interviewing someone at the white house about Wilson when it was *mentioned* that Wilson's wife recommeded him for the job.

Says the CIA confirmed it, and that Valerie Plame was an "aaaaanalyst" not a spy, not an undercover operative - no big deal.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:39 PM
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32. Ah????? What?????
They just mentioned that she was CIA, just an analyst, that the CIA confirmed it. Then the CIA goes down? ?????
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:41 PM
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41. now a clip of poppy
making statement about treason at dedication of Bush Intelligence Center
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:39 PM
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33. No..Begala is now going to question whether ASSCRACK
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 03:42 PM by Mari333
is the one who should be investigating the leak..after the commercial...

Harold Ford (D) and John Kingston (R) being grilled now...just showed Bush Sr tape calling those who leak "Traitors"..
Repuke Kingston says DOJ will take care of it..
Begala says Bullshit...Kingston investigated Dems before, now time for special investigation of Bush treason, demands independent counsel.............
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:40 PM
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34. thanks. n/t
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:44 PM
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43. Trying to discredit Wilson and say his wife is just an analyst
extreme discrediting by Novack..but Harold Ford says INDEPENDENT COUNSEL is needed. Get the facts out on the table.
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nixonwasbetterthanW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:49 PM
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50. "CIA confirmed it"?

How did the CIA confirm it? The CIA does NOT routinely confirm anyone's employment there, even a typist. Does he mean he got a source at the CIA to confirm it, or that it was on the record?

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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:41 PM
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38. The thing is, the way he phrased the two sentences, it gives him an out
Plume who is a CIA operative.

Officials told me she suggested Wilson.


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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:47 PM
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46. Still doesn't explain away the Wash Post story
Where a senior administration official said 2 White House officials called 6 reporters. Novackula can prim and parse his words all he wants, but he's not the only dog on this hunt.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:41 PM
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39. Harold Ford?
the war suck up?

Begala plays the Bush (the first) clip, about traitors
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:47 PM
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49. bullshit
clip of wilson on CNN, and quote from Wilson saying he wanted to see Rove frog marched out in handcuffs back in August.

Novack: Do you KNOW that she is a CIA operative? Do you KNOW that the white house revealed the information?

(ummmm.... isn't that what he said in his column???)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:51 PM
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57. Holy Crap Ford Rocked
Man oh man .... The repuke retort to ford "democrats are
a bunch of whiners"

I came really close to kicking my T.V. :grr:
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:45 PM
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44. Screw you Novak
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:47 PM
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47. Begala going after Kingston calling him soft on crime
Kingston says its just politics...
Novack must have been paid off to spin for the NEOcons like this..

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:47 PM
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45. Novak is SUCH a twit....why am I supposed to like Republicans again?!?!?!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:47 PM
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48. who is this congressman?
wanted an investigation about a guy who got football tickets, but not this?

Novak is backtracking fast
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:50 PM
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55. He just stated that the Democratic party is the party of whiners.
Unf@#%$*gbeleivable!
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:50 PM
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56. illogical argument
"If it put her life in danger, why has nothing happened?"

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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:53 PM
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59. So if Plame gets offed, do ya think they'll take it serious?
Geez, she's walking around, so no harm done!! That's the stupidest thing I think anyone has ever said on that show!!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:49 PM
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51. So Novak
which is it? YOu start off the show saying she was an analyst, then you said you heard she was an analyst
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:50 PM
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53. Boo, boo, boo, boo, boooooooooooo
If I were in that audience, that is exactly what I would have been saying! That congressman was ridiculous. Called the Democrats whiners for wanting an investigation into this crime. I am so disgusted I don't know what to do with myself.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:53 PM
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61. I had to get a beer . Im too mad.
really mad.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:53 PM
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58. Rep Kingston
No polygraphs for the WH.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:53 PM
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60. Why not? n/t
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 03:54 PM by LittleApple81
WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO START CALLING ALL THE ADMINISTRATION MEMBERS LIARS!
IF WE DON'T, THEY GET AWAY WITH MURDER. LITERALLY.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:56 PM
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62. He said we cant just round all the WH personnel up and
make them take polygraph tests...hes an asshole..

GOP Bushbots spend 70 million on a Blow Job and now they say its just Partisan politics..
assholes.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:58 PM
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63. We just witnessed Novak trying to rebottle the Genie
He contradicted himself several times, misquoted what he actually wrote, and tried to get us to believe that the CIA routinely asks the Dept of Justice to investigate the WH. I don't think it worked.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 04:02 PM
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65. Novak in the end accepted that there needs to be an investigation
Begala adds Someone other than Ashcroft to investigate this.
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