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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:36 AM
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A new name for "Nigergate"
Nigergate and weaponsgate and the other "gates" are really getting annoying, it seems to make the issue less important. We called it "Watergate" with nixon because it took place in the Watergate hotel.

I'm suggesting the Uranium Scandal, or The Nigerian Affair...the press might prefer those over "yellowcakegate"

Any other ideas that don't involve -gate ?
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Ivory_Tower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:38 AM
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1. I kind of like "The Lie"
Edited on Tue Jul-15-03 12:44 AM by Ivory_Tower
Simple and to the point.

Or maybe I just need some sleep...

or maybe "Prevarigate" --- get it? Okay, okay, I'm going to sleep now.....
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:39 AM
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2. The Nigerian Affair
Sounds like a Robert Ludlum book. LOL
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:42 AM
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6. It might sell
I'm thinking of the braindead masses that might be intrigued by this name...and the 16-25 yr olds that will look into it thinking it's some kind of porn. (I'm right in that age group and I know i would)

Of course Uranium Scandal or Uranium Lie are just as effective, and to the point.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:45 AM
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9. it's not Nigerian though
Nigerian, refers to Nigeria, large nation on the coast.

Nigerois, refers to Niger, land-locked nation directly north of Nigeria.

"The Nigerois Affair" though...
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:52 AM
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11. hmmm
I honestly forgot that there was a niger and a nigeria...I never really liked geography when it came to Africa, too many of the countries would cease to exist, or change names when I was in middleschool, so each map had something different on it...and that wa sonly about 6 years ago
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:55 AM
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15. There've only been two map changes in Africa
In the last six years that I know of.... Eritrea became an independant nation after a long bloody civil war with Ethiopia. Zaire changed its name to The Popular Democratic Republic of Congo, not to be confused with The Republic of Congo, which is just north of PDR Congo across the Congo River.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:40 AM
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3. ANYTHING but Niger-gate
It looks too much like "Ni**er-gate."
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:41 AM
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4. I notice some in the media trying to define this very narrowly
I think a broader name would serve us better.

"Bush's Lies" would be too good, but it won't happen.

"The Bush Credibility Gap"

"The Credibility Deficit"

I was heartened to see the Olbermann show opening up the aluminum tubes lie front.

It was a broad pattern of lies, not just 16 words.

The lies were not only throughout the SOTU, they stretch back to the selection of 2000.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 01:26 AM
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22. Credibility Gap
I like that one. Because that's what we want to get in people's minds for the 2004 election. Tell your friends!! :-)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:42 AM
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5. how about -orama as the ending?
cake-orama

Heck, this is hard.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:44 AM
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8. how about....
....for the broader application:

the politics of deception, or politics of deceit


akin to the old "politics of personal destruction."
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:58 AM
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18. Die-orama, maybe?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:43 AM
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7. How about "Pattern of Deception which...
Edited on Tue Jul-15-03 12:45 AM by VolcanoJen
... led this Great Nation into an Immoral and Unnecessary War Affair?"

OK... not so catchy...

I do agree that the "Gates" have grown tiresome. I always liked the sound of "Iran-Contra Affair," so something along those lines might stick. How about

"State of the Union Affair,"

or to please our Republican friends, the

"16-Word Affair,"

as the press seems to have latched onto the SOTU lie most fervently? Hey, we know it's a Pattern we're talking about, but if it's catchy and easy-to-understand, it'll stick like glue.

- Jennifer

ON EDIT: changed spacing
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:47 AM
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10. just a question
what does "yellowcakegate" refer to?
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:54 AM
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13. yellowcakegate
yellow cake is Uranium Ore, and it's what the Iraqi's were supposedly trying to buy...I saw it in some thread, thought I'd mention it
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:57 AM
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17. ok :-)
I thought it had to do with yellow cake, silly me.

I don't know of any Uranium ores that are actually yellow though, Uraninite is gray, and Uranophane is greenish. UO3 is bright orange... Anyway...
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WEagle Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:55 AM
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14. yellow cake uranium n-t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:56 AM
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16. Yellow cake is uranium ore...
... I believe (but hey, I'm no scientist.) Bush alleged in his SOTU speech that Saddam Hussein had tried to obtain yellow cake from Africa.

Hence, YellowCakeGate is the Watergate "play on words" that refers to the Bush/Uranium/Niger scandal.

Sorry if I'm oversimplifying,
Jennifer :-)
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:53 AM
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12. Brainstorming...
The Big Lie
Commander in Deceit
The PNAC Deception
PNAC vs. America

Heck, just call it PNAC. "-NAC" becomes the new "-gate".
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 01:04 AM
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19. The Uranium Lie.
Uranium is radioactive = nuke = WMD
LIE is what they told.

I like "The Uranium Lie."
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 01:11 AM
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20. The Half-Baked Papers or
The Betty Crocker Affair, We're using silly stuff because the truth is so painful.

I hope the papers don't come up with some idiotic name, what bush has been done is treasonous. Time to be honest and call it was it is.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 01:19 AM
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21. I've been using The Nigerian Connection.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 01:31 AM
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23. we shouldn't limit it to the niger documents...
...because there are other lies that took us to war.

Limiting it to those documents suits Rove.
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