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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:31 AM
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Why has Millionaire Dean never donated any money to a candidate before?
According to the Federal Election Committee (http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/qind/) Howard Dean, a loyal millionaire Democrat asking for your donations, has never sent any money to any candidate. Why?

John Edwards Did

John Kerry Did

Joe Lieberman Did

and Yes, even Clark gave money to a Democrat.

So what is with the millionaire Dean?

Next time you dig into your pocket to give a donation, ask yourself, would this candidate do the same for a member of the Democratic Party? Then send them the same amount they sent. It is only fair in my opinion.

Mike
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:35 AM
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1. I think Dean held a lot of $1000/plate events this quarter,
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 02:36 AM by E_Zapata
and I can't wait to see who gave him the big bucks.

On that sleepless summer tour for "the people powered howard" (or whatever they say), he held 'private' fundraisers -- $1000 a plate. Then he goes out to the masses of 1000s of people sitting out in the hot sun and slams bush for his $2000/plate affairs.

I can't wait for the FEC site to get updated. Can't wait to see who Dean will really be working for.

and the period ending 12/31/03 will be very telling.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:30 AM
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19. I wasn't commenting on # of posts, but the fact that 'they' had the same #
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 03:34 AM by LosinIt
and have been known to start flame wars before. Makes me suspicious of their motives, that's all. We all started as first time posters.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 01:01 PM
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27. I have started maybe 3 or 4 new threads on DU
And never about a candidate.

"known to start flame wars" - get your offenders straight, take notes, whatever you have to do.

But attacking the messenger when they state fact and their opinion on it is sleazy.
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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:51 AM
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10. Some people like to talk others like to read and listen more n/t
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:57 AM
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13. Now that gets the prize for paranoia
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 03:01 AM by E_Zapata
What do you care if I am concerned about where Dean gets his money? It's a legitimate concern and quite common on DU.

weird.

but if mr. 321 and I were the same person, I guess it is trippy that one of our personalities is concerned about money coming out Dean's wallet and the other personality is concerned with money going into Dean's wallet. Two opposing interests. I/We are sure to explode.
we - must - integrate - now
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:06 AM
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Now, if you see a Cafe_PorFavor running around DU
you will have me nailed.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:41 AM
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4. I'm approaching my limit.
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 02:44 AM by liberalnurse
I'll do this by December..I'm honored to donate to Dean. I'm a cheapskate too. I assisted minimally in local campaigns. Dean is the only candidate I have ever given money.

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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:49 AM
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9. Then you are better than he is. Are you a millionaire too? n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:53 AM
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11. No, I just sleep with a millionaire.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:40 AM
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3. By his own admission, he is a notorious cheapskate.
I doubt he's given a cent to a Republican, either.

So... what's your point?
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:45 AM
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5. I never took a dime of welfare
does that mean I am unqualified to be poor?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:47 AM
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6. Mike - can I call you Mike?
Looks like you havent donated here at DU. But you know, I wouldnt hold that against you.

Im sure Dean has donated many places where he deems fit and where he feels his money is wisely used.

I dont always think, (and I have given a good amount of money to the Democratic party), that giving money to candidates who arent doing diddly squat is really the right way to invest. I have given a sizeable amount to Dean because I believe and feel more than confident that he is his own person, and enough of a strong individual and leader not to be overtaken and/or bow to special interests and lobbyists. Im sure there will be concessions made at times, but overall his authenticity is readily apparent to me, as are his values.

Although you didnt ask, I would hope you might channel some of that energy towards supporting and selling your own candidate instead of trying to pin blame on other candidates.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:49 AM
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8. You are an eagle eye!
Great catch!!!! :bounce:

Now maybe we can put a sock in that gaping hole too.

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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:04 AM
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15. No I haven't
Once I get a job again I will. Right now we are suffering through a Bush administration, I mean a recession. I don't know why I get the two confused.

But I am not ask people on DU to give me 15 million either.

"Im sure Dean has donated many places where he deems fit and where he feels his money is wisely used."

No he has not. That is point. The FEC shows NO donations. Do not take my word for it, look it up yourself.

Mike



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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 08:55 AM
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21. Well, technically, he could have given $150 each to hundreds of candidates
Since the FEC doesn't ask for itemized donations unless it's over $250, these won't show up.

On the other hand, you could be absolutely correct.

And I believe the poster you quoted might have meant that Dean has donated to charitable causes, rather than political ones. (I'm purely speculating -- not trying to put words in someone else's mouth.)
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:55 AM
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12. This thread ain't worth a plugged nickel. How cheap is THAT?
:)
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 02:59 AM
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14. You got that right Jim....
You always call them for what they are....:)
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:06 AM
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16. Mike - You pointed out a ant in a ZOO filled with
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 03:08 AM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
Elephants, Tigers, Rhino’s and bears. It is unfair to make fun of you based on your low number of posts. I know people with less than 300 posts who have great substance.

It is not quantity but substance of posts that garner respect here; I just feel that this post has no substance. I always welcome criticism if it merits a direct effect on the populace, this post failed to achieve that standard.

Edit- Added your name
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:10 AM
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17. LOL
The slime master is going to get some thrown his way.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:15 AM
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18. Watch it
While Kerry and the rest of the boys are busy trying to court the big money from labor, lobbyists, and insiders, Dean has a fairly small amount of money given per donation AND has the highest number of contributions out of all the candidates. Some of the Dean's contributors are Martin Sheen, Gloria Gayner, and other entertainers. They are HARDLY the types who hang around on K Street.

Let's see who the contributors are to Dean's campaign. I think it would show a lot more positive information (and probably a speck of some big donor here or there).

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:50 AM
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20. If you're going to slam Dean............
would you please identify which candidate you favor?
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clar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:04 AM
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22. You do realize how silly
this post is, don't you? You must.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:28 AM
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23. Why have Rove pay for "Opposition Research" on Dean? Log on DU!
Moderators... When are you going to throw up the Bullshit flag on this Dean bashing?

A "gotcha" thread, based on dubious research, (they failed to even list his campaign-to- campaign donations), calculated to slime a Democratic candidate on the "Democratic" Underground.

So the new rule vote was sabotaged... use your discretion here. Let's not let DU turn into a Limbaugh-esque slime fest against our candidates.

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:32 AM
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24. Why has Working Poor BiggJawn never donated any money to...
...a candidate before?

Oh, how WONDERFUL! another Effin' LITMUS TEST PAPER to rub on the candidates and see if they're the "right colour"...

Guess that's another reason to put on my list of "reasons why I can NEVER consider Public Office".
Along with all the shit the ReTHUGlicans would eat me alive with, now there's items my "own" would use against me.

I smell Greens.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 10:00 AM
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25. Dean's PAC gave $20,000 to Shaheen's senate bid
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 10:03 AM by JaneQPublic
Like many $-smart politicians, Dean set up a PAC for contributing to candidates and worthy causes.

It's called Fund for a Healthy America, and it's most recent semi-annual report is posted at:
http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/fecgifpdf/

Pages 10-17 list the itemized Disbursements, i.e., bills paid and contributions made. Among them are the following:

p. 14 -- Shaheen for Senate -- $20,000
p. 15 -- Vt. State Democratic Federal Campaign Committee -- $2,000
p. 17 -- Charlie Smith for State House -- $1,000
p. 17 -- Coalition to Defend America's Working Families -- $2,000
p. 17 -- Coalition to Defend America's Working Families -- $5,000

By the way, although Dean made a whopping $86,000/yr. as Gov. of VT., he is now unemployed. Yes, he is a millionaire, but most of his wealth came through wise stock investments, a skill he picked up while working 2 years in the "family business" (Wall Street) before starting med school.

(Edit: if the above links doesn't work, go to this one and press "continue": http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?F23991635882)
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 11:08 AM
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26. Now Jane , you are fighting most unfailry
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 11:09 AM by artr2
Actually using facts to backup your statements! Don't you know that sliming a canditate without any facts to back you up is the normal modis operandi around here? I expect you to get with the program, and quick young lady </end attempt at humor>

LOL

edit:spelling
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 01:19 PM
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28. Dean has loyally given support both financially and of himself
to countless democrats during his career. Case in point, in Wisconsin in 1998 a staunch progressive Ed Garvey was running for Governor and because he was in a uphill fight with Tommy Thompson very few incumbent Democratic governors were willing to help Garvey. Dean was an exception. He came to Wisconsin and campaigned for Ed and also held a fund raiser for him. He also campaigned hard for Jimmy Carter in 1980 and worked for Gephardt in 1988.
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