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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:42 PM
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Should Cindy Sheehan cancel the bus tour?
I guess they've got three busses going, why not divert them towards evacuating? Turn those three busses south and fill them up with evacuees, and evacuate the evacuees to Washington DC?

Bush is directly responsible for this, and the world should know it. And absoltutely every resource we have should be made available for the victims and survivors of this tragedy.

L@@K

http://www.komotv.com/news/story.asp?ID=10240

I know it's been talked about to death, but America needs to know right now, Bush cut the funding that could have prevented this so that he could give his rich friends millions in tax cuts, and he could give us pee-ons our crummy $300. How many people did that snow?

No, I'd like to see the Bus Tour diverted towards disaster relief. Camp Casey was just practice.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:45 PM
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1. "... evacuate the evacuees to Washington DC?"
I was thinking about how great it would be if all DUH-bya's chickens came home to roost at the same time. He'd freak and resign, with any luck. Too much "hard work".
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:57 PM
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3. For three weeks those buses could be driving people lost in Houston
to family & friends in nearby states. Or volunteers who will take people in.

The buses could do alot of trips.

Cindy's message that War costs and should only be in the most serious of circumstances and then done competently and not with smoke & mirrors - will not die in the meantime. She can continue her bus tour later. We will all still be ready for her message of "sacrifice" and what it needs to mean in an adult world vs. bubble-boy's.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:55 PM
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2. No way! This should STRENGTHEN the bus tour!
With his arrogant indifference to the current crisis,
he's not just ignoring one woman anymore.
He's ignoring the WORST natural disaster of our lifetime!

His personal "fuck you, peasant" attitude now applies to MILLIONS
of Americans!
And MILLIONS now see that he doesn't care about their
pain any more than he cares about Cindy's!




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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:14 AM
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33. I agree
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:57 PM
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4. They are bringing a load of camping gear and food stuff there
Stuff that got left at camp is being diverted to Katrina victims. They are keeping minimal amounts of the stuff for the Peace Buses, the rest is being trucked to disaster relief.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:02 AM
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5. That's a good gesture on camp casey's part.
I am amazed at the old saying the people with the least amount of goods know how to make the most of them. Kudo's camp casey.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:11 AM
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9. Our pop-top canopy got assimilated there so we left it
Nice to know it will go to really good use. There were so many generous caring people there, many who had little in money or goods but were willing to share what they had, their time and energies too.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:42 AM
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24. That's what I mean
>>>There were so many generous caring people there, many who had little in money or goods but were willing to share what they had, their time and energies too.<<<

Yeah, we've got to redirect that now towards evacuating these people down south. Don't even have to evacuate from New Orleans, get people from Houston. That will free up the spaces for more New Orleans refugees, and nobody will be getting in the way of the rescuers.

Just thinking out loud.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 AM
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16. A true saying!
My family did not have much when I was growing up. In fact, we had government subsidized foot for awhile (what you got in the days before food stamps). In first grade, I lived in a house with a well, a hand pump in the kitchen sink, and an outhouse. We took baths in the wash tub, in the kitchen in the winter times and in the yard in the summer. Yet one of the lessons my parents taught me went something like this: There will always be people who have more than you, and there were always be people with less than you. Your responsibility is not to focus on those with more, but to reach out and help those with less. My parents not only told us that, but taught us that by example time and time again.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:42 AM
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23. Kudos to your folks
:applause:
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:45 AM
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26. .oop wrong spot. see # 28
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 12:50 AM by alphafemale
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:51 AM
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29. thank you, alphafemale
:loveya:
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:08 AM
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6. No the war is still a major issue
and perhaps now that people are learning that money that should have gone to infrastructure (levees) was diverted to fight bushie's war of choice -- they will ask how many other projects FOR America have been looted.

The war has got to be STOPPED -- NOW. Cindy is our best hope for this.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:21 AM
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34. Sounds terrible to say but....
it would be far more newsworthy to see Cindy where she's really needed, where we are all needed, helping the victims of this. Cindy is in a unique position with proven mobilization skills and oh by the way three tour busses. Please I hope people will contact the organizers of this and ask them to consider postponing the tour and getting our brothers and sisters in the South to safety.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:10 AM
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7. As much as I love and support Cindy. Yes.
There are better uses for the Buses right now. That would be a Grand Gesture on her behalf. I know she has made the ultimate sacrafice of her Son. But sacraficing this tour would be the best way to say, I Shall Return. After this is over and LA. Miss. and Ala. are safe. We can all meet up in DC.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:10 AM
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8. NO.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:16 AM
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10. No. Death is still occurring in Iraq. nt
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:19 AM
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11. No, stay the course
There are many who can take Cindy's place in the hurricane zone.
Why don't dubby stop his parade around the nation and looking at the destruction. If his plane had been diverted, many choppers and boats could have sailed.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:37 AM
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21. No!! Don't use Bush's "Stay the Course" phrase!
Even Freepers are going to commit suicide if he says it one more time - let's not let it become part of the accepted vernacular of our time :puke:
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:30 AM
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38. Sorry, I was only using his words against him
How about- Stick to the Plan Cindy!
:D
B*shie overuses all of the cliches because that is what his sheep understand.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:27 AM
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12. No.
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Queen Isabella Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:29 AM
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15. Sign Kyoto!
Why won't Bush admit that this could have been prevented if he would just sign the Kyoto Protocol!!!! Even the German Cabinet Minister is saying it!!!!! When will we pull our heads out????
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:00 AM
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30. Have we met before?
I think we have...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:00 AM
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37. Welcome to DU.
I don't think it could have been prevented.

Even if Global Warming helped to intensify the storm, Signing Kyoto would have done nothing to change this particular event. It will be decades before before the effects of GW can be repaired.

The response is another matter.

Incompetence and negligence on an unprecedented scale.
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artemisia1 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:28 AM
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13. It will have greater effect, AFTER, the people have been evacuated from NO
Than right now, while the nation (President, excepted) are fixated, justifiably so, on the Southern states hit by Katrina. Have the tour, but have it later.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:51 AM
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40. Um
This tour isn't happening now because it's a convenient time. It's happening now to recruit people to come to DC on Sept 24th for the largest ever demonstration against this war and against George Bush. Having it later makes no sense at all.

We need between 3 -5 million people in DC. This is one of the ways we're going to get them.

It needs to happen and it needs to happen now.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:29 AM
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14. I hope not.
One of the buses is coming to my hometown on Saturday and Sunday, which coincides with my being home from college. I get precious little time for activism, and I want to enjoy it. Iraq is still a major issue and it needs to be addressed.
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clmbohdem Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:32 AM
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17. No, the Feds are finally doing their job...
The tour is needed to draw more attention to the DC rally. The DC rally is very important.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:34 AM
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18. Yes...
I think they should all head to New Orleans or the Astrodome..


They can further drive the point home that our troops are dying abroad for no reason, our people at home are dying for no reason. And unlike Bush, we the people are willing to step in and pick up the slack.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:35 AM
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19. NO!!! Cindy is the only ray of hope that we've seen...the BFEE would
encourage this. Not me.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:36 AM
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20. Yes - And they may be forced to if they can't get diesel
And I'm betting there will be a problem in much of the country getting fuel for at least a week or two.

And the bus tour is not going to generate much publicity with this disaster having the focus for at least another week or two (and I'm betting longer).

Be a grand gesture to donate the use of these buses to evacuations from the hurricane areas!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:40 AM
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22. Keep Cindy on route. She is an angel of hope for all, even NOLA....n/t
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:42 AM
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25. NO - Their effort is to important to the soldiers
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Carmerian Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:47 AM
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27. "Bus" is relative
The "bus" Cindy rode here in Austin today was not the Greyhound kind, but was more like a mid-sized RV. It didn't seem to hold too many people.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:06 AM
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31. Here's a picture of the "buses"
http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/35-36/35news11.htm
Yes, one is a bus, the VFP bus. The others are RVs. Peace.





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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:28 AM
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35. Oh. I see. Nevermind.
I didn't realize this. I was picturing they'd be tricked-out tour buses like you'd expect to see Aerosmith in. I should have known better *bangs head on monitor*

Nevermind

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:38 AM
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36. It is amazing what the grassroots movement has been able to do
Lots of individuals and a few organizations made up of individuals. Peace
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:49 AM
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28. NO! The tragedy in NOLA is another by-product of * PNAC'er insanity!
The funds needed to strengthen the levees were diverted to *'s crazed wrong-headed Iraq war!
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:12 AM
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32. No...keep on doing what Cindy does so well...get in Georgies face!
I think we should keep the momentum going. It was kind & generous to give what they could but this is a matter of life and death too...we need our troops home.

Don't quit now!!!

Cindy rocks!!!
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:43 AM
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39. A Noble cause worth dying for
... would be somehow involved in an accident trying to save the survivors of Katrina.

Cindy should do what her heart tells her to do.

To me it is even more important that she continue and drive the point home that there are some causes worth dying for, but dying Iraq is a waste of human life that would be helping us far more here.
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