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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:51 AM
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CNN has seen the light!!!
Just said this tease for their next segment (1:50 eastern)..

"Where is the help from the Federal Government?"
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ThumperDumper Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:53 AM
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1. Finally. Also we need one, "Who dropped the ball?" n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:55 AM
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2. Believe it or not...Nancy Grace and Anderson Cooper
hammered the feds! What's going on is unforgivable. Period.


Peace.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:05 AM
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7. Even his biggest fans are going to have trouble cheerleading
for his holiness now.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:06 AM
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10. I am so glad to hear that
I think this is criminal negligence. It has been three days and FEMA is still not there.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:55 AM
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3. No food or water in Biloxi for three days. (nt)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:57 AM
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4. Anderson Cooper is from Mississippi, Nancy Grace from Alabama
They were shouting at the government this afternoon.

My favorite moment was when Nancy was listening to someone at the Pentagon explain why help was so slow in coming, and he said "Well, their are beauracratic issues involved." She shouted at him in scorn. "Beauracratic issues? People are dying!" So the guy went on about how long it took to respond to emergencies, treating her as though she were basically clueless (this was my first time to see her, so for all Iknow she is). She then cut back to Anderson Cooper with an intro about his record covering disasters in Africa, Sri Lanka and other places abroad.

She and Cooper was very visibly upset, and they did not seem to be acting at all. Grace at one point looked like she was about to cry, then regained control. It was way to subtle to be faked. They are watching the places they grew up loving being treated like this. I actually felt a bond with the two of them, as though for the first time a newsperson actually seemed to understand what I did.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:08 AM
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thats sweet joby - it must have felt quite odd to feel this humanity
coming from the television after all that has gone on

maybe and sadly this is what it will take
people being hit where they live - you mention they are from these areas so it does make sense they are getting rattled finally by this horrible scenario
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:11 AM
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16. It takes time to respond to unanticipated emergencies, but a hurricane
that is tracked doesn't exactly qualify as "unanticipated." Bush declared a state of emergency on Saturday. They had time to prepare to move out ASAP.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:17 AM
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20. WRONG! He's from New York, NY
(And his mother is Gloria Vanderbuilt, by the way...) See:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0177846/bio
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:25 AM
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21. He said he was from Quitman, Mississippi. Even told a story about
some of his cousins helping out a CNN van in Meridian. So what was he talking about?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:34 AM
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25. His dad was from Quitman. I found a reference to it.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 01:34 AM by jobycom
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:35 AM
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26. Who here remembers hurricane Andrew?
It doesn't normally take more than HOURS to respond to a hurricane; they don't sneak up on you like earthquakes!!!

But we never were without most of our National Guard, either. :grr:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:03 AM
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28. I remember a lot of hurricanes. David, Frederick, Elena, Camille
I remember a lot of near misses and direct hits and glancing blows. I remember huddling in small hallways and feeling the house breath and listening to the rumbling freight train sounds flying over my roof. And I remember in every case seeing the NG standing on the streets the next morning. Even after the near misses the NG had a presence. Sometimes you just saw their trucks in the shopping center parking lots, but they were there.

I've never seen inaction like this. Never. The South is covered with military bases, full to the brim with military equipment. On the Mississippi Coast there is a Seabee base, a very large Air Force base, and a National Gaurd Armory at the airport. Up the highway there is another National Gaurd base within an hour's drive. There are bases in Florida and Alabama. There is a base in Alexandria, Louisiana, a short distance from New Orleans, and several other large bases around there. There are bases all over Texas.

Those bases have hangers, mess halls, barracks, meeting rooms, even fields for tents. It wouldn't take much creativity to find housing for a while on them.

The roads are closed, the ports are destroyed, and the channels are probably not safe for ships. But the military has helicopters, transport planes, amphibious craft, light boats they can pilot into the swamps and canals and rivers, even into the streets.

The Commander in Chief doesn't even have to wait for paperwork. He doesn't even have to think of a plan himself. He can order the troops to go where he wants. The troops would love the chance to help. ANy action would be welcome. Anything but going to parties and cheesy photo ops.

This problem would not be nearly so bad if Bush and his administration would have responded.

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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:03 AM
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5. What is going on here?
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 01:04 AM by MissMarple
This is just too, too weird. Shepard Smith from Faux did a similar thing.

Are they embedded CIA or FBI guys? Or something???
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:05 AM
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8. Yeah, you're right. When I saw Smith's segment I thought I was on the
wrong channel. Very un-foxlike.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:07 AM
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11. Smith, I believe, would want to blame it on LA politicians who
are mostly Dems, not the WH. He is an asshole. The other two are genuinely upset even though Grace still spent her own f** show on Aruba.
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:28 AM
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22. I was very impressed with Shepard Smith. Wishing he wasn't on Fox.

I don't really know his political leanings, but I think he is one hell of a smart guy and I wish he was on a channel that was as neutral as possible. I don't know a lot about him. All I know is that he impressed me tonight. I love people who can talk quickly and make a lot of sense.

These reporters from all channels are seeing real horrors and I don't think any of them can keep up any political bias at this point.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:36 AM
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27. I think you have a good point there.
:)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:04 AM
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6. I won't get my hopes up until Ted Turner comes back.n/t
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:06 AM
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9. wolf blitzer will take care of all that tomorrow
cant have any questioning of the government
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:08 AM
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12. They just like controversy.. This time they are on our side
because we are asking the same questions.. Just wait though.. When the Tin Pot Tyrant finally shows up there and climbs on top of a pile of rubble with his "Commander In Chief" Costume of the day, and sheds a few tears, CNN will say.."WOW, he's wonderful" and Chris Matthews will comment on how sell his pants fit him and how ruggedly macho he looks..
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:11 AM
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15. Matthews did a bit of that even today, not to worry
He also -- I think, since I turned it on late -- cut Andrea Mitchell short when she (as far as I could tell) was saying that it's hard to comprehend why Bush did not cancel his trip to SD.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:09 AM
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13. whoa...
Has the MSM stopped drinking the kool-aid?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:13 AM
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17. I suspect the reporters on scene are simply inhaling the air...imagine the
smells. And the sights they are seeing, only some of which are conveyed to the audiences at home.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:59 AM
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31. i think some just really started to 'feel'--if only for a while. There is
hope this will carry on in their lives after this crisis is over.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:09 AM
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14. The light for cnn means the l train for Bush (nt)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:15 AM
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18. Cooper has been in it for a few days now.
I think all the reporters who have been intimately engaged with this story understand the real severity and desperation of the situation. I've watched Anderson getting more and more angry with the feds he's interviewed. There ain't no action happening.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:16 AM
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19. Hmm, getting outta the studios and cocktail parties
and into reality is good for talking heads. Seeing the horrors up close and personal has got to have some affect, even on media whores.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:31 AM
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23. Cooper has literally been in the midst of the stench
of dead bodies.

He knows just how serious things really are. Finally.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:47 AM
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29. Well, Grover, what do ya expect from a Government that is small enough
to drown in the bathtub? I mean if the NeoCon RWingers have their way there will be NO government response to natural disasters. Let Halliburton and KBR step in and handle it. Let the "faith based" groups handle it. Talk about disorganization. And what will the private help groups do when everyone is strapped for cash? Just look at the logical end of Grover Norquist's arguments. This is a good indication of what is to come if these greedy ghouls have their way........
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:56 AM
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30. Jeanne Merserve as well..
her description of people being left on an overpass in desparate need to medical assistance came right after either FEMA or the US Sen from LA (the woman) was talking abt how much help was on the way on the Larry King show tonight.

Merserve was already in Baon Rouge, but had reported live from NO the night before and while they didn't show her face, I think she was crying describing what she saw.

Tonight, Anderson Cooper came on right after Hailey Barbour was implying that things were getting under control and he was practically screaming into his microphone that the people on the Missouri coast had no idea when help was coming, had heard from no one and were in desparate straits.
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