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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:28 AM
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Fire in the Superdome
Just heard it on the scanner

http://205.252.89.181:8000/live.m3u

They are getting people out at gate either H or 8

I think it's in a trash shoot.
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:30 AM
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1. I thought he said gate a
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:31 AM
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5. That's the gate near where the fire is
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:31 AM
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2. I can't get a grasp of how bad it is
There seems to be no panic so far
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:31 AM
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3. How Many Are Still There? Any Idea?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:33 AM
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7. I don't know
There was a report earlier of 10 more busses being in route
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:36 AM
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12. they said earlier that the had 104 ready to go in and another 74 waiting
for fuel. They were going to load up 10 and then move 10 more in at a time. I think they also said that 5 busses were going in for the special needs people so hopefully they are on their way to evacuate their hospitals. Ems were still waiting for fuel last I heard too.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:31 AM
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4. MSM is speading panic n/t
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:34 AM
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9. I heard this off the NO police scanner
http://205.252.89.181:8000/live.m3u

I don't know if it's on the media, is it?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:09 AM
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40. I haven't seen anything on MSM
yet.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:32 AM
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6. H and A are right next to each other
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:39 AM
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14. I may have had the gate they are removing them from wrong
It was difficult for me to make out. I know he said the fire was near gate A.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:41 AM
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17. Smoke and it looks like the fire is starting to spead a bit
They all still seem to be calm and orderly
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:33 AM
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8. we posted the same thing at the same time.
can a mod conbine this thread?

Thanks for starting a third thread on this.. sounds like it's going to be an interesting day.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:36 AM
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11. Opps, sorry I wasn't paying attention. :)
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:35 AM
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10. things are bad there
and still no mention of the soldier was shot last night by MSM.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:36 AM
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13. From worse to worst!
Shots fired at evacuation helicopters, fires in the shelter, gang conflicts among the evacuees.

A few survivors have commited suicide, the people can't take much more. The authorities MUST get them out of there.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:40 AM
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16. fire starting to spread.
trying to get 6 buses out to airport to pick up MP's they were asking for these 6 buses at 4:00 this morning. It is now 7, tell me this shit isn't intentional.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:46 AM
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20. Intentional or incompetence.
Either way, a whole lot of poor people are screwed.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:48 AM
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23. Incompetence
Those National Guardsmen guarding the refugees are dead men too if this crowd riots.

Welcome to hell.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:51 AM
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26. it's beyond incompetence.
has to be LIHOP. Police are trying to make this work and are being held up by road blocks of some sort every step of the way. This much shit can't go wrong by accident.

I don't know..I need to take a break I guess.. I've become too damn cynical
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:52 AM
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27. It could have been anything, a lit cig tossed in the trash shoot for
.. example. They seem to be doing alright with getting the people out and there are no reports of panic yet.
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:40 AM
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15. fire is spreading
and noone is listening
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:43 AM
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18. don't they have fire extinguishers?
they should be all over that building. I had a terrible feeling that building was going to become a death trap.

Status on what ETa is for fire department is in the superdome.
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:44 AM
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19. what's up with the gates on the causeway and pulling the trigger
did you hear that?
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:46 AM
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21. he said it again...is anyone recording
wTF is going on? He said make sure the gates are locked we are ready to pull the trigger on this.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:49 AM
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25. Yes and something about every one being behind the barricade
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:48 AM
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22. I think they said firetrucks are in route at one point
This is really the last thing they needed to be dealing with.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:49 AM
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24. trucks en route, might need 10 more MP's (military police?)
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:53 AM
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29. They've been trying to get some for hours
The people there are just overwhelmed and need some help.

They're doing the best they can with a bad situation
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:54 AM
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30. there was a mix up with how many fire trucks. will be in route
in 10 minutes. NEED ARMED MP"S...COULD GET UGLY
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:54 AM
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32. fire truck delayed.. need 10 MP's asap
OMG.. do you need them armed or not armed? did he say we need them armed?
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:53 AM
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28. "this could get ugly sir, we need as many people as we can"
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:54 AM
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31. "sir, they probably need to be armed, over"
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:54 AM
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33. IS ANYONE RECORDING THIS?
sorry for yelling
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:57 AM
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34. If there's a panic in the Superdome...
It will make that stampede on that bridge Baghdad look like a Labor Day Parade.

Any ideas of how many people are in there?
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:01 AM
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35. they are pushing back the barrier
so I'm assuming they are going to try and let everyone out. This is really scary shit
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:01 AM
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36. "Need a response time on the Fire Department to the superdome"
response: dont know what you're talking about, have to do some digging on that one.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:02 AM
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37. ETA 5-10 mins
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:04 AM
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38. fire truck can't get through
sending nat guard dump trucks and equipment still need mp's
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:06 AM
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39. I can't believe what I'm hearing
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:09 AM
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41. anybody else lose the feed? n/t
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:12 AM
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42. could you post a link to the feed....please
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:13 AM
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45. here ya go
http://205.252.89.181:8000/live.m3u

might take several tries
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:15 AM
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47. I am trying to open in iTunes...
It won't play..should I try a different format or am I doing something wrong?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:13 AM
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46. Here you go
http://205.252.89.181:8000/live.m3u

I'm having to keep reconnecting so don't give up if you lose it.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:12 AM
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44. no, still streaming here
try reconnecting. they're looking for the second set of buses.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:12 AM
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43. Do you have a high water vehicle that you can get these firefighers over..
response was affirmative
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:22 AM
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48. they have 60 buses to send in..
guard says send them. someone is going to get them and escort them in.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:31 AM
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49. When you look at the way those people in the superdome
have been treated...

the momumental incompetence, is it any wonder that so many decided to chance it in their own homes???

I was listening to one of the streaming local stations on tuesday and there were three guys in jeans and t-shirts in a makeshift studio discussing events. One said he had spoken directly to an NG guy in the dome who told him that conditions were awful and that in his estimation there were 60,000 people there!

They showed footage of some looters with food and nappies and other people with large bags... the main anchor said "are those more looters?" and the reporter said "NO. Those are people who took refuge in some hotels and who have been kicked out. They were told there are gas leaks etc... and they were asking us "How do we get home?? Back to Metairie etc??" And what could we say?? We knew nothing."
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:31 AM
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50. opening up gate A
"need two security cordons"

"need every soldier to get back here and reinforce this inside permiter"
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:37 AM
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51. "Everyting under control at this time"
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:37 AM
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52. CNN finally reporting it...
...speaking with NG officer, calling it a "small trash fire," but also saying it's possible it could blaze out of control.:(
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:45 AM
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58. I kind of called and reamed their butts out for reporting earlier
That they had stopped evacuation of the Superdome. I also mentioned that their "up to the minute news" was hours old. :P
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:39 AM
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53. "tell the firemen to leave" "Say again?" "tell the firemen to leave"
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:41 AM
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54. Cant guarantee the safety of the firemen....
Personnel on scene, equipment in route....
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:41 AM
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55. Was he speaking of a hotel someplace
That was what he kept saying. I'm not sure this is the same fire.

Christ! This is such a mess there.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:42 AM
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56. I heard "not addressing the fire in the superdome right now"
I think they don't have enough bodies to guard the firemen, and keep their security perimeter.

Just speculating on what im hearing...
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blackcatpgh Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:44 AM
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57. sounded like that to me too
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:46 AM
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59. My feed is getting choppy so I'm not sure what was said
Thanks for the clarification.
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blackcatpgh Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:48 AM
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62. "fire is under control...
"...but will take hours to clear the smoke out"

they're pulling the firefighters out; worried that they can't hold the crowd for long.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:55 AM
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66. I heard something like that
I think it was: we don't care about the fire in the dome.

It's not real easy for me to hear this scanner, so take it for what it's worth.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:54 AM
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65. SuperDome has hotel joined at one end.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:47 AM
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60. "Fire UNDER CONTROL"
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:49 AM
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63. take hours to ventilate the dome
security perimeter not able to hold.

Sounds like they cut a cordon in the crowd to get the firefighters into the dome, but don't think they can keep the crowd from overwhelming them. Asking for the firefighters to leave as soon as they can.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:54 AM
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64. Controlled chaos
I hope they are able to finish getting those people on busses soon, this is going to degrade quickly if not.
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:48 AM
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61. Fire is UNDER CONTROL...
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 07:48 AM by pointblank
Commander just said that they need to GET THE FIREMEN OUTTA THERE because the perimeter isnt going to hold...

This is unbelievable.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:01 AM
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67. Fire command reported
Fire is out. Told NG he's not pulling his people out until smoke is ventilated.

-Hoot
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