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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:28 AM
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LIWOP? Let It Worsen On Purpose? Can Incompetence Account For All This
another DU'er coined that phrase yesterday (I think).

What can possibly be the 'up' side to letting things worsen in NOLA on purpose?

But how can things be SO FUBAR?

:crying:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:32 AM
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1. I think Bush has been set up by TPTB
He doesn't read newspapers - relies totally on his handlers for news and information. He was shielded from the NWS report predicting the devastation and then was allowed to be photographed playing the guitar on Monday.

I think the Elite have decided it's time to get out of Iraq and the only way to do that is to take down Bush.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:35 AM
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2. I don't understand.
Can you explain what you mean? Thanks.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:39 AM
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4. Bush exists in a bubble, he can only react to what he is told to react to
His handlers knew what was going to happen to NO - Bush didn't. So Sunday and Monday he eats cake with McCain, goes to CA to a fundraiser - when he should have been on top of what was happening.

When he says no one could have predicted the levees would break he's saying it because he truly didn't know what was predicted. He's been left out to dry by Cheney, who's gotten his marching orders that it's time to bring Chimp down.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:54 AM
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5. i think you've struck a vein of truth.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:37 AM
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3. I think it's simply the result of incompetence and ideology.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 11:37 AM by Marr
They cut funding for the levees because they wanted to send the Army Corps of Engineers off on an imperial adventure to the Middle East. They haven't responded to the crisis after the fact because the resources are in Iraq, and because they're just flat-out incompetent.

They don't care about infrastructure. They do not care. They're idiots and ideologues who are focussed on empire building.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:30 PM
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7. someone used the analogy of Soviet response to Chernobyl
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:55 AM
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6. bush knew about danger and bush cut NO funding by 80%.... impeach him
What more do you need for "impeachment hearings"?

the following facts are laid out:

#1 Bush was told in 2001 that New Orleans was a National Issue
#2 Bush funded a $500K study to confrim this in 2004
#3 Bush cut New Orleans hurricane funds by 80%

Point #1
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In 2001, FEMA ranked a major hurricane strike on New Orleans as “among the three likeliest, most castastrophic disasters facing this country.” Bush slashed hurricane funding anyway. August 29, 2005 10:19

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/29/bush-knew /


Point #2 - Study to confirm
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IEM Team to Develop Catastrophic Hurricane Disaster Plan for New Orleans & Southeast Louisiana
June 3, 2004

IEM, Inc., the Baton Rouge-based emergency management and homeland security consultant, will lead the development of a catastrophic hurricane disaster plan for Southeast Louisiana and the City of New Orleans under a more than half a million dollar contract with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security/Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

In making the announcement today on behalf of teaming partners Dewberry, URS Corporation and James Lee Witt Associates, IEM Director of Homeland Security Wayne Thomas explained that the development of a base catastrophic hurricane disaster plan has urgency due to the recent start of the annual hurricane season which runs through November. National weather experts are predicting an above normal Atlantic hurricane season with six to eight hurricanes, of which three could be categorized as major.

The IEM team will complete a functional exercise on a catastrophic hurricane strike in Southeast Louisiana and use results to develop a response and recovery plan. A catastrophic event is one that can overwhelm State, local and private capabilities so quickly that communities could be devastated without Federal assistance and multi-agency planning and preparedness.

Thomas said that the greater New Orleans area is one of the nation’s most vulnerable locations for hurricane landfall.

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http://www.ieminc.com/Whats_New/Press_Releases/pressrel ...


Point #3 - Bush cuts NO funding by 80%
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In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.

On June 8, 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; told the Times-Picayune: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

Also that June, with the 2004 hurricane season starting, the Corps' project manager Al Naomi went before a local agency, the East Jefferson Levee Authority, and essentially begged for $2 million for urgent work that Washington was now unable to pay for. From the June 18, 2004 Times-Picayune:

"The system is in great shape, but the levees are sinking. Everything is sinking, and if we don't get the money fast enough to raise them, then we can't stay ahead of the settlement," he said. "The problem that we have isn't that the levee is low, but that the federal funds have dried up so that we can't raise them."
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_di...


AND he runs our country????

Where are democratic leaders on this?

IF DU can piece this together in 3 days -- anybody can. Where is accountability?

Where is our media? Bush knew...OUR govt KNEW the danger !
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:32 PM
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8. The upside is they WANT chaos and death.
As fucked up as that sounds, I believe it.
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