Hillary Clinton is officially off my "potentials" list. No vote. Not now.

After her husband defended the non-response by the Bushes, I'm done with the Clintons forever.

If it's Clinton running against any Republican, I'll go third party or I'll vote Republican. I will NOT vote for Hillary.

Not that I would need it NOT to support the Senator.

timely fashion. Claims that "nobody could've forseen" this. Doesn't bat an eye when Monkey the Elder says that "nobody knew the levees would fail."

Clinton lost me, too.

and didn't do squat!@

So it'll be third party if I ever am faced with that choice.

Vote third party and you'll be reviled forever -- "you gave us the Chimp!"

Vote Republican and you'll get a cute nickname -- Reagan Democrat. And the party will move heaven and earth to woo you back -- "this is not a liberal party, we need those conservative-middle votes."

No thanks. And I don't care who reviles me, my vote is MY choice.

I have never voted repuke and I'm not about to start doing it now. No. Not ever. I cannot vote for morally bankrupt people.

I've never and never will vote Republican either.

I couldn't be tortured into it.

but damn, Clinton has me so mad, for a moment there I thought I'd have to consider it!

She doesn't take any stance right now, she is just waiting to see how the wind blows. Leadership is something we all will be looking for, that man could be Wes Clark, we will see. He has blasted Bush for lack of leadership all they way around recently.

NO MORE CLINTONS
NO MORE BUSHS

Can't we do better than this?

for you to figure out that she's just a corperate shrill??

If it came down to her vs Jeb Bush I'd vote for her. I think Byron Dorgan should run.

I can't believe he said that either. The women and children should have been evacuated DAY 1. Im votin Dean,Paul Hackett,Michael Moore,Bill Maher and Jon Stewart. and Mickey Damn Mouse if none of these guys wants the Job.

what's the point? She's not a constituent service kind of pol.

it's an un-written code to not be critical of the person occupying the White House.

Anyhow Hillary seems to be a pretty idependant minded woman. Have you heard what SHE says about all of this. Why not base your decision on that!!!

Geez, that's like tombstoning me from DU because you found out my mother voted for Bush

Where I come from it's also called lack of integrity, no guts, testicles in a jar, and a few others I can't recall at the moment.

We here at DU already know that something like this was a possibility
and on several other threads there are the stories that are at least a year old, where the funding was slashed by this administration.

Personally I don't see where Clinton owes anything to the same party that tried to have him removed from office for a blow job, and yet will do nothing about a sociopathic serial killer whose lies have resulted in the deaths of Iraqis, Afghans, US military personnel, and military personnel of the Coalition of the Willing.

To stand with Bush, is to stand with Nero, watching as Rome burns.

Hillary hasn't said anything yet, why? And don't point at the other Dems, most of them are not being looked at to run for President, she is. So we should expect more from her.

Unless she wins the Democratic nomination.

Don

..is a total fucking sham...the truth is becoming easier to recognize but only because of its very rare use by these asshats.

I`m with you.

I doubt she'll miss your vote too much - doesn't sound like you were ever much of a supporter. And what does her husband have to do with her. Sound just like the republicans. You've got them - you can have them along with anybody else that wants to destroy this country.

until today.

have both shown the only leadership during this time as far as I'm concerned

And CLARK is looking more and more like absolute presidential material

I supported him lukewarmly last time

He's damn sure probably gonna get my vote the next time!

"I'm a liberal"
Opposed Iraw from the start.
Strong on social issues/individual freedom.
Not afraid of gay voters (was on cover of The Advocate in a tee, I'm not kidding...looked good to, in shape)
Not afraid of Republicans...bitched out Faux reporters.

He had too steep a learning curve and he was sandbaged by that General who knows "a secret" that never existed.

I find him exemplary and someone I could be proud of for a change.

Anyway, Hillary has peaked way too soon, she's a target for all of our dissatisfactions with the current government...and she's not bright. Anyone who is in politics as a business should know that when Jack Cafferty goes off in a big way on *, it's time to jump ship.

For those who may have missed, it the buzz in real newspapers in England is that Tony bLiar will leave government shortly for a seat on the Carlyle Group Board of Directors...cause the poor fella's finances are stretched and in disarray becuase it's hard, or so hard, being PM. Let's see, could we also say that he over spent and went into debt as a "cash advance" against a known PAY OFF from Carlyle. Silly me!

There's a NY Liberal Party (or was) and maybe opposition (my preference) in the Dem primary, from somebody significant who would peel the bark off her tired tree.

NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

I finally had to put you on Ignore for a while during the primaries out of total exasperation over your oh-so-public vacillations and hysterical hand-wringing over who you supported -- today.

Would like to read it myself.

I am not a big fan - and I agree, we need leadership from individuals not linked to a political machine. No on Hilary. What a disappointment she is.

I never thought it would be Hillary!

No one expects him to slam Bush in a time like this, but does he have to make excuses for those fucks?

I'm so sick of the 2 of them playing political games, getting all cozy with the Bushes, just so she can run for president in 2008. I can't take it anymore. I've reached my limit.

That's how we humans will come to know our demise. We are too rational and too adaptable.

Belong in GD-Politix?

Being frustrated with political speak is understandable, but we still have an obligation to do what's best for humanity in the voting booth.

It's the purist attitude that got Bush close enough to steal the election in 2000 - I caution that we don't repeat history (provided elections even the slightest bit honest anymore.)

always an opportunist