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Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:27 PM
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When will the Kerry attacks begin???
We already have the Clinton attacks...will the Kerry and Dean attacks soon follow???
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:28 PM
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1. Tell me that Dean/Kerry have excused Bush's response to Katrina...
...and I'll attack them with the ferocity that I'm attacking Big Dog. :eyes:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:35 PM
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17. Dean hasn't--he issued a statement telling Bush that it was time
to "step up," and I got a letter from Kerry about Katrina's victims.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:28 PM
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2. Clinton deserves everything he gets today
He kissed Bush's ass for one reason and one reason only, the political aspirations of Hillary.

Hillary Clinton lost the 2008 election today. There is no way in hell she will be elected.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:31 PM
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8. I'm slow today
Help me out Walt. She lost the 2008 election because Bubba kissed the Chimp's ass?

I'm confused.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:32 PM
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10. That is complete Horseshit!!!
Had Clinton refused a request from the President to help out he would have been crucified. Fact is he did a great job with the Tsunami relief. And there is every reason to believe he will do the same here. No matter what he may have thought about Bush's performance in private, he had no choice but to help!!!
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:34 PM
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14. Helping is one thing. Claiming no one could have expected the
disaster is another one. If he can't speak the truth, he shouldn't be saying anything.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:34 PM
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15. Nobody is critisizing his helping,
Clinton is being critisized because he is playing along with Bush's story that this event could not have been predicted.

Of course he should help. That doesnt mean he has to run his mouth off and cover for Bush.
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Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:37 PM
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22. That's right
Clinton is already seen as the devil by the press. If he slammed Bush he would be painted as a villian by the media and in the process make the entire Democratic party look heartless.

I must admit this isn't really a time to look partisan.

They're will be plenty of time for that in the coming monthes during the clean up.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:39 PM
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26. I think politically neutral comments wouldnt have bothered anyone.
It was his pro-Bush comments that earned him scorn from DU.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:43 PM
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34. That I agree with you on Walt. No to Hillary in 08'!
She'll just continue the elitist dynasty that has ruined our nation.

Clark or Dean in 2008!
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:29 PM
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3. how about right now?
what's kerry's response? I haven't heard anything from him? What is he doing? If he says something like Bill Clinton just said, then he's just as fucking worthless as Bill Clinton.

Is that about what you wanted to hear?
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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:31 PM
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7. Under 2004 elec. results
the scuttlebutt is that he is definitely not giving up the legal battle and might meet with Conyers about "The Fraud".
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:30 PM
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4. Oh yes...must destroy Bill for betraying us.
Heaven forbid Big Dawg actually tries to rise above politics to help.

Sometimes this place slays me.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:31 PM
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6. Rising above politics? Covering for the Bush Admin's criminal ineptitude?
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 03:32 PM by RBHam
Clinton is nothing but a political animal.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:33 PM
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11. Could it possibly be...
..that he actually cares about the people in suffering down there? That he loves his country and every citizen? That he's doing this to do what he can to help?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:36 PM
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:37 PM
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21. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the interview
in which Clinton basically covered for Bush's incompetence -- saying what can be done has been done by the federal government.

We're not talking about his fundraising, only his shilling for the incompetent Bush Admin.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:42 PM
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31. This is not helpful
If he wants to help, he can publicly excoriate this administration for the mass murder they've committed. It might actually shame them into doing something.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:36 PM
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18. You're right. Bill should use the opportunity to assign blame
instead of calling for help.

Yep, that's the plan.


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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:40 PM
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27. Clinton could have stayed neutral.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 03:40 PM by K-W
Your post seems to imply that he only had 2 choices, backup Bush or bash Bush.

He could have done niether.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:54 PM
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39. Clinton
I absolutely admire Bill Clinton, but I must admit, after hearing him on CNN a few minutes ago, siding with Bush 1, who was making excuses for his baby boy, and Clinton agreeing and going along with him, I LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM!! I never thought I could say that, 'cause I even forgave him for his idiotic escapade while in office!! As for John Kerry, he has already responded to this disaster. Those of us who support him, have heard from him personally, and he and Teresa had news article released a day or so ago. I don't have the thread at hand, but maybe someone else can post it to you!! I am certain, that if JK were our president right now. we wouldn't even be in this predicament!!
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:30 PM
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5. Watch Jack Cafferty???
When will John Kerry speak up for the poor, the indigent, the people of color left to rot in New Orleans???

Does he give a damn?
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Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:32 PM
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9. I think...
Somebody needs to remind him Kerry isn't in the Oval Office.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:34 PM
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16. But he is the de facto leader of the opposition!
It's his JOB to point out BushCo's criminal negligence.

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Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:43 PM
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33. It is his JOB...
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 03:43 PM by Mr_King
to be the Senator from Massachusetts.

Kerry knows like most of the country that Bush & Co. are negligent. Why preach to the chior?

I just wish people's eyes down their would have openned up about Bush this time last year and then maybe Kerry wouldn't be the Senator from Massachusetts right now.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:33 PM
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12. So far, Wes Clark is the only one I see speaking out
for them.

And, of course, Landrieu - but she kind of HAS to, you know?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:37 PM
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23. True...but Clark hasn't been tapped to mobilize aid, either
That gives him a lot more room to criticize than Clinton has.

BTW, loved Clark's statement.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:40 PM
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28. Maybe they should tap him to do it.
I guarantee it would be done yesterday and with more efficiency than anything Shrub has ever done.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:55 PM
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41. No argument there...take a gander at SE Europe...
Clark unfucked that place in a hurry.

Clark's day is yet to come.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:33 PM
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13. DU is amazingly reactionary
Turn on Pres. Clinton and praise Jack Cafferty? Come on, this is nuts.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:38 PM
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25. So now it is reactionary to not blindly support Democrats? EOM
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:36 PM
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20. Kerry???.....That guy who pretends to be anti-Bush???
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bluetuesday Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:37 PM
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24. Kerry?
I'm sorry,where is he??
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:45 PM
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35. Oh come on he sent out an email
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 03:45 PM by never_get_over_it
and you know he was probably on vacation - what more do you want.

We have to stop enabling these DLC fake Democrats to assist the repunks in destroying this country. Yes Bill should help but no he should not provide cover for the feak in chief. And Clinton's chummy relationship with this criminal family makes me physically ill.
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Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:53 PM
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37. Let's see who else can we attack...
Gore, Carter, Kennedy, Edwards, Jesse Jackson, Feinstein, Obama, Bayh, Richardson, Hillary, Warner, Sharpton, Pelosi, Cuomo, Boxer, Dukakis, Mondale, Reid, McGovern, Levin.....
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:55 PM
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40. If they do something wrong they should be attacked. EOM
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 03:55 PM by K-W
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:41 PM
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29. I think the Clark attacks are not far behind as well.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:42 PM
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32. Why, is Clark planning to backup Bush's excuses?
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 03:43 PM by K-W
The straw man construction in this thread is astounding.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:50 PM
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36. Clark's already busted Bushie's chops on this
But, yeah, can't have his name mentioned in a thread without some misinformed soul spewing about Haitian man-titties or some such nonsense.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:54 PM
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38. Hmm
I dont understand the body of your post, but my point was that unless Clark plans to make excuses for Bush(which I assume he wont do) he has no fear of being critisized the way Clinton has for making excuses.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:42 PM
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30. My freeper BIL lashed out at Kerry . . .
. . . after I sent this email:

"No One Can Say they Didn't See it Coming"

August 31, 2005 By Sidney Blumenthal

In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of
the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war. (I included the article in its entirety.) http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372455,00.html


His response: Wow, it only took 3 days to blame everything on Bush. I'm sure Kerry would have been spending tons of money protecting New Orleans as soon as he took office - actually, that was one of his campaign promises...wasn't it? yyeah, yeah, that's it - it was.


My reply: Did you even read the first article I sent? The Bush administration crippled FEMA funding for natural disasters. Read this article from 2004. Louisiana, who's waterways drain two thirds of the continental United States, was denied requests for flood mitigation funds over a year ago.: http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2004-09-28/cover_story.html . . .


His reply: That's exactly what New Orleans is and needs to stay - a drainage pond. No amount of preparation could have saved that area from that kind of storm. Does no good to politicize the issue; it would have happened no matter what. They will probably rebuild it and it will happen again some day.


TYY:banghead:





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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:56 PM
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42. Locked.
And this will further discussion...how?
Locking as flamebait.

Thanks for your understanding.
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