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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:44 PM
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Poll question: If you took Dean and Clark out of the equation who would you vote for?
Lets say Dean and Clark are not in the running but everyone else currently running is--who would you support?
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:50 PM
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1. I chose
Kucinich.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:52 PM
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2. Graham
The thinking man's loser
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:54 PM
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4. I'm selfish: We really DO need him here in Florida....
n/t
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:12 PM
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11. yes you do - I really like him
you R lucky 2 have him.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:52 PM
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3. Kerry
n/t
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:56 PM
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5. Kucinich Even With Dean and Clark in Mix
I oppose Clark because he promotes and supports unlimited free trade that is destroying the middle class and good American jobs.

Until he repents on his free trade policy he will never receive my support.

I generally like Dean but he is just too conservative for my tastes.

For me the best candidate is Representative Dennis Kucinich.

Go Dennis Go!
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:57 PM
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6. Kucinich until he gets beat
Kucinich until the Democratic nomination, then however would get nominated (because Kuncinich won't; I don't live in a progressive country.)
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 03:58 PM
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7. Is that true about Clark supporting unlimited free trade?
I've been looking for something on this.

Any references?
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:09 PM
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Nope
http://www.issues2000.org/Wesley_Clark.htm#Free_Trade
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:09 PM
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9. Absolutely Untrue
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=351159

There are other references as well.

DTH
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:17 PM
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14. Actually that post doesn't tell me much about what he'd do re: fair trade.
His positions sound awfully similar to Dean's but Dean has given more detail on how he'd do this and he's getting hammered by Kerry and Lieberman for it.

That's the thing about Wes Clark, he says he understands the problem, but doesn't really tell you what he'd do about it. It's what you do about it that attracts criticism.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:24 PM
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18. Outright Repudiation and Crticism is What I am looking For
Unless he supports the following I cannot support him;

Outlaw corporate outsourcing,
Eliminate all L-1 and H-1b visas,
Promote "hire them here" and "build it here" policies,
Renegotiate NAFTA and WTO supporting Fair Trade not Free Trade.

Anything less is unacceptable!
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:21 PM
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16. www.talkingpointsmemo.com
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 04:25 PM by mhr
See the interview that Josh Marshall did with Clark published this week at Josh's web blog.

Clark basically does not answer any questions on free trade which says that he is avoiding them.

Remember that Clark is supported by Clinton and indirectly Robert Ruben.

Ruben is reported to have told Dean that if Dean did not support Free Trade then Ruben could not deliver Wall Street for him.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:46 PM
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23. Uh, ok. Six degrees of separation.
"indirectly by Robert Ruben"

"Ruben is reported to have told Dean"

Sounds like good solid evidence to me.

One unsubstantiated claim does not a position make, especially when you are assuming that Clark has the same position on free trade as Robert Rubin, who is "indirectly" supporting him.

Even close friends can have different opinions on the issues. I'm sure that James Carville supports his wife, but he sure doesn't agree with her on many political matters. Assuming that because Rubin might be supporting Clark that Clark has exactly the same positions is a little shortsighted.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:28 PM
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20. me too
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:38 PM
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22. Perhaps you should do a little more research on Clark's
position on free trade vs. fair trade.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:03 PM
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8. Kucinich n/t
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:10 PM
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10. Graham then Kerry
but since it looks like Graham is going to be the first one to drop out, I'd have to say Kerry
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:19 PM
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15. right there with ya
eom
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:13 PM
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12. Kerry
He's still in the Top-3 as far as I'm concerned. And it's going to be Kerry, Dean and Clark all the way down to the wire.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:13 PM
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13. Kerry
n/t
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:23 PM
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17. Tough choice
Edwards, or Kerry.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:26 PM
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19. A poll that needed to be taken, CMT.
Interesting. Thanks.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:29 PM
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21. Let's say my penis is 12 inches. Does that mean it's a foot?
;-)

Thankfully, Dean and Clark are in the equation.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 05:21 PM
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25. my sister wants your phone number
n/t
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 04:54 PM
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24. Edwards...
...just remove Dean from the equation, for that matters.

Later.

RJS
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 05:24 PM
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26. Edwards
He is a good man.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 05:42 PM
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27. Mosely Braun
is underappreciated and that is a shame.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 05:46 PM
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28. No Clark? Then Edwards is my choice.
I'd like him to get far.....
DemEx
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