Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

We. Are. On. Our. Own.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:06 PM
Original message
We. Are. On. Our. Own.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:13 PM by Bluebear


Let it sink in. Four frigging years after 9/11, the only Homeland "security" we have is each other. Four years after 9/11 and the Federal government has shown it doesn't care about saving you or me, just color-coded alerts designed to win elections and rias the sale of duct tape.

If anything happens in our neighborhoods, you can now see that Bush doesn't give a good crap about you or me, if there was any doubt. Let the disaster play itself out while he strums guitars and sips champagne with his donors. Halliburton can fix up whatever was destryoed. But meanwhile, I am going to stock up on a week's worth of canned goods and water and buy my first gun, because we are on our own.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:12 PM
Response to Original message
1. I got to the same conclusion
Bush and his administration feel sweet blow all for any of us. He is too busy counting his money.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Christa welcome to DU
I wish it were under more pleasant circumstances. Glad you're here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. welcome to DU Christa
Hang in there, there's always hope, have to have hope.

aA
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. He'll be counting a lot more after this is done.
Pretty sure he stands to profit from this at least as much as he has from his oil war profiteering! Welcome to DU.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:14 PM
Response to Original message
4. Bush has made this perfectly clear!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
5. You'd buy a gun and shoot your fellow man?
I'd rather be killed by my fellow man.

The way "society" is devolving...

Sip on that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. If someone was coming into my house to shoot me?
Yeah I guess I would. The survival instinct is still there for the moment I guess.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. Agreed, HT.
for one thing, i can't bring myself to kill. period. and another thing, i wouldn't wanna live in that kind of "society".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Shooting doesn't have to mean killing. If you shoot somebody below
the knees with birdshot, I think they might get the message, run off, or be considerably slowed down. If they keep coming, you shoot in the face.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. There's also wild animals, other hazards.
The government cannot be counted on to protect us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:17 AM
Response to Reply #13
33. have you ever been in a life or death situation?
i have, and i know for a fact that a person has no idea of what they'd do in that situation until they face it. i was certainly surprised by how i acted.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
17. Do you have kids?
because i think....if I am not alive then who will take care of them?
I will protect my kids!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:17 PM
Response to Original message
7. in Haiti, the people created their own parallel government along
the lines of the African secret societies. But I'm also unconvinced of the real efficacy of guns, since the GOP thrives off of fear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:17 PM
Response to Original message
8. !
yup
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:18 PM
Response to Original message
10. If an earthquake hits, we are going to look after ourselves.
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Hi Carla. Hope you're OK...
this week has taken a lot out of all of us who actually give a care, eh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #11
24. Hi, Bluebear
I read that report yesterday with the three predictions of tragedy. The only one left is the earthquake...oh boy.

But I'm staying focused on Katrina and doing whatever I can to help. Nothing is more important at this moment. I, like everyone else, am sickened by the lack of response. I no longer expect it would be any better for us as long as this administration is in charge.

I think this tragedy will change us forever. I think the people like you, me and the community here at DU will rise up from this, united as never before and conquer the evil that has brought this once- great country to it's knees. I know we will.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
12. That's George's Ownership Society again. On your own.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
14. I'm with you!
I don't own a gun either, have never shot one.......was thinking of looking around this week, am going to need to learn how to use it.

And this is a huge leap for me, but I feel I'd be stupid at this point not to, I have to think about the safety of my family........against foreign and domestic.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. It would be a huge leap for me too.
Huge. I don't care if someone wants to steal my stuff, but I feel defenseless now. People voted for this clown because they think he "made them safe". Tools and fools.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:25 PM
Response to Original message
15. I sent emails yesterday 2 Boxer, Feinstein,
steroid boy & dana whorbacher asking if Californians will B discarded as easily as the people of Louisiana and if we R truly going 2 B left 2 fend 4 ourselves (since a MAJOR earthquake in CA is one of the 3 disasters named in the '01 report).


Since the questions were, in actuality, rhetorical I rotated all my earthquake supplies 2day; checked the batteries 'n added a few things.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:28 PM
Response to Original message
20. We found that out in Florida last year
Despite the fact that it was an election year and Bush made sure he showed up for his photo op asap. I went through three hurricanes and the only time I same any FEMA or National Guard was at the end of the third storm, I saw two NG going into a local Subway for lunch. The only other people who did anything was the power companies and the people who helped at the shelters. Aside from that we were on our own, everyone helped each other and we got threw it.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:29 PM
Response to Original message
21. Every Man, Woman, and Child... young or old, sick or not, for themselves
welcome to the third-world america

peace
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. The USA is now a banana republic with celebrity telethons. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:38 PM
Response to Original message
22. Exactly right
I just wrote the same thing to my Senators(Durbin and Obama).

"Essentially we are all on our own except for the kindness and generosity of the average American who wants to alleviate the suffering of their fellow citizens."

It comes through loud and clear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:52 PM
Response to Original message
25. Federalism of the Fucked and Forgotten n/t.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:56 PM
Response to Original message
26. Get an M1 Garand or a Mossberg 590 shotgun
If you had more experience with guns, I'd suggest an AK-47, but that's a bit much for a first-timer. Welcome!

On the other hand, though, I am truly sorry you feel driven to do this. America was supposed to be much, much better than this. One day, we shall prevail.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:22 AM
Response to Reply #26
30. Thanks for the tips
And yes I will be fully trained.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:56 PM
Response to Original message
27. Yep.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 11:59 PM by Bouncy Ball
At least now I know for sure. Any bit of veils left on my eyes have been dropped by this. We are alone. There is no net under the tightrope.

Edit, I missed your line about a gun. We own two, strictly for home self-defense. If you do this, get fully trained. Fully fully fully trained. I know you will, but that's extremely important.

We keep ours VERY secure. But yes, we have them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:06 AM
Response to Reply #27
31. I promise.
I will be fully fully fully fully trained. And they will be secure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:11 AM
Response to Original message
28. I think the "looters" understood this. They seemed to realize before
everyone else that the federal government would not be showing up anytime soon, so they were on their own.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:25 AM
Response to Original message
29. Already started
I've given up on the "dream" a long time ago.

There is one political party. The obnoxiously wealthy.

We have people that wear ties, and do talk shows and interviews, but they don't run the show.

The money runs the show.

The decision was made. I don't know if this happened in the 80's, the 40's, the 1800's. But it's been made. If you don't have the money, you don't count.

You can sure LOOK like you have the money, ACT like you have the money, but you don't HAVE the money.

Chris Rock put it very nicely. Shaquille O'Neal is rich, but he's not wealthy. The guy who writes Shaq's check is rich.

I've been buying canned goods, I'm working on selling my house to get the equity that this stupid market has granted me for sitting here doing nothing.

I have located an instructor who will teach me gun safety and shooting. I'm in my 30's, and have touched a gun once. Now I'm about to buy one.

I went from being blissfully ignorant about the world around me, working hard, doing my thing and just trying to be nice.

Now, I see complete failure in my government, my co-workers, my fellow citizens (except for a lot of the good people here).

My folks are still in "la la la, I'm not listening to you" mode, so that shortens those conversations.

Therefore, We. Are. On. Our. Own.

I just don't see this clearing up without something radical happening in this country, and around the world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:14 AM
Response to Original message
32. Thanks Bluebear. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 12:26 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC