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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:18 PM
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I'm appalled that the nation isn't in mourning.
That football games and baseball games aren't canceled.

That flags aren't being flown at half-mast.

We're being told that the death toll may be around 10,000 - 15,000 persons.

I think we need this long weekend to pay attention to this horrific disaster without sports and entertainment.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:19 PM
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1. You should have seen the five different football pull out previews
in the Miami Herald.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:19 PM
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2. I agree and I'm very appalled.
WTF America?

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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:22 PM
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7. Why wouldn't all games end till all the people are saved?
People are dying of thirst right now. We know it.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:20 PM
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3. Asshole in chief
Hasn't even called for a moment of silence.
A prayer or nothing....zilch.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:20 PM
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4. Not even a minute of silence at these games
But let's not talk about racism or classism.

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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:41 PM
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41. THAT couldn't be a factor!
Nor could the fact that our C&C can't make any war profiteering hay out of this tragedy.

:sarcasm:

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:42 PM
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42. please tell me you're joking n/t
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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:45 PM
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43. There was a long moment of silence @ USA vs Mexico
The (real) football match in Columbus that cemented our national team's position in the World Cup.

They're going to make another human sacrifice out of 9/11 since it's opening day for the NFL, since that would be patriotic.

The Saints will be playing in New York instead of New Orleans. We'll see what is said during that game.

And yes, it's not right that they haven't had the flags hit half staff, but then again, they should have headed to half staff the day our first soldier was killed over in Iraq.
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:21 PM
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5. It will be once the # comes out. All we have now are projections. n/t
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:26 PM
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There won't be a "number" for weeks. And then it will be a projection.
This is too big. They changed the 9/11 numbers for 6 months.

We know it's in the thousands. Just how many thousands is the sad unknowable. It's enough to know that this is the biggest body blow to the nation's sense of security ever experienced. Because this time we know for a fact that we can't count on our own government to come to our rescue.

I think everyone is feeling "there but by fortune" and it's personally threatening to the psyches of all Americans -- at least all poor and middle class Americans.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:28 PM
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15. don't count on ever seeing the numbers--
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:21 PM
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6. I totally agree with you.
At the very least, flags should be at half-mast. At the very least...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:23 PM
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9. I am surprised as well
My dad is watching the Tennessee game from earlier today and I heard earlier this evening that at the game people were taking up donations and everything to send for relief.
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Lydia Guerra Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:23 PM
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8. yep
Perhaps enough dead haven't been counted.

ooo, sorry, that was cynical and insensitive.

I'm mourning are you?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:30 PM
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33. Absolutely, and the body count isn't even in yet!
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:24 PM
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10. We should be and people who care ARE in mourning
I got an email from a dear friend who has played with Preservation Hall Band -- she is in mourning and are all jazz musicians and everyone with a HEART and a soul.

But you are correct -- there should be a National WEEK of mourning. Flags should fly at half mast for a month.

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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:25 PM
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11. It will take the entire state of Texas or so being ripped apart....
By a disaster for them to stop their bullshit. I mean that quite literally.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:05 PM
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26. No. It's going to take people being afraid of this federal government.
I think they are now.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:25 PM
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12. We need another Civil Rights movement, too
The racist ugly comments I hear coming from the right is very distressing to me, and I am white. I can only imagine how my black brothers and sisters feel.

I am poor, was raised poor, and if I lived in NOLA I would have been stuck there. Were anything like that to happen here, I'd be in dire straits. We have no car, no public transportation, and everything in our house is electric. How would I cook? I don't buy canned goods that much.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:26 PM
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13. Achtung America!
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:26 PM
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14. The work is ongoing and the mourning is
in everyone's heart as they struggle to get thru this. The public mourning will come later - I think it's more private now.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:29 PM
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16. So stop the football games and baseball games.
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carpediem Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:29 PM
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17. I completely agree. it is disgusting...
During 9/11 aftermath, everyone had candles in their windows, flags at half-staff - now with so many dead from the storm people aren't seeming to notice it. My street gathered outside tonight ( i live in a heavily republican area ) and noone even mentioned it.

I guess your life isn't worth as much if it isn't an act of "war" that takes it...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:34 PM
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18. Kind of different than the 9/11 response, huh?
But then, we were supposed to be angry about the 9/11 deaths...

For this, we get an endless stream of "it's their own fault, damn looters"...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:08 PM
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27. The disparity in reaction is overwhelming
Here's a thread on the same subject. Not everyone agrees with you & I.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4618279




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Lilyhoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:35 PM
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19. Like a country wide New Orleans style funeral procession. nt
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:44 PM
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20. I too am horrified
All these people dead and no national mourning... pathetic. I am ashamed of this country.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:51 PM
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21. I makes complete sense to me....
9/11 was primarily white middle to upper class folks. NO is primarily black poor folks. The racism is so deep-rooted in America, that most people don't even realize the contrast between the reaction to the two events. It is heart-breaking on top of a heart-break.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:55 PM
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22. I believe that New Orleans will be George W.'s legacy.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 09:56 PM by Zen Democrat
He was hoping it would be his triumphal performance at Ground Zero in New York and his Mission Accomplished bravado.

But it's going to be thousands dead in the South because of negligence, incompetence and indifference.

Democrats lost the South with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Republicans lost the South with the Great Flood of 2005.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:00 PM
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23. So am I, sabra.
:(
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:02 PM
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24. We stopped for 9/11. The only reason shrub hasn't done so now,
is Rove hasn't found a way to spin it to their advantage. Until then, the band plays on.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:41 AM
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49. You're pretty much spot on.
It's always political with these turds, always.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:02 PM
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25. I have been mourning... so much so that Hubby had to
do Labor Day alone w/o kids and I. I would have been morbid and depressing.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:09 PM
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28. I asked the question
on my blog a few days ago, How is it that one of America's great cities ceased to exist this week, but I can still watch Letterman tonight?

To anyone paying attention, it should be extremely disturbing.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:17 PM
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29. I would love to see everyone wear black.
Seriously. For a month at least.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:24 PM
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30. The only comment from my right wing neigbor was
"Don't worry, the gas prices will come back to where they were before."

But her face was bloated with that koolaid smile, so I knew that a response was useless.
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:26 PM
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31. I expected to see flags at half mast, too n/t
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:28 PM
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32. Your wish, and that of the good Rev. Robertson, has been granted.
Presto. You have two more wishes.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:32 PM
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34. Just what I was going to say. . .

The flag will fly low for Rehnquist.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:33 PM
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35. Holy shit are they estimating that high?
Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

WHY???? WHY aren't we in mourning as a nation?

This is CRAZY! LOCO!!!!

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:57 PM
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36. I was appalled by the reaction I got from my coworkers tonight.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:59 PM by VolcanoJen
We've been so busy that I haven't really had a chance to talk to them much.

Tonight we were really slow, so during the down times we hung around and talked.

"What do you guys think about this awful hurricane stuff?" I started.

Responses:

"I don't watch that stuff. Too depressing."

"Pisses me off that they're trying to make a racial issue out of it. Always playing the race card!"

"I really haven't heard much about it. What happened?"

"Well, I was just happy that they finally got it all straightened out. Everyone seems ok now. I wonder where the Saints are going to play this year, though?"

And the worst sentiment I heard, from our reasonably intelligent 19-year-old busboy and college sophomore:

"Too many people in the world anyway."

You guys, I'm just shocked. I can't believe it. I've been ringing out my own heart of its tears, and nobody around me gives a flying fuck. Nobody. Seriously, I couldn't find one person who was interested.

I've lost my faith.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:15 PM
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37. Your DU family doesn't feel that way....
welcome home!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:20 PM
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38. Thank you for easing my broken heart, DU.
I feel so alone right now. So alone in my grief.

:sobbing:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:39 PM
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40. That's so sad. I'm so glad to be in San Francisco where people
have actual beating hearts.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:57 PM
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45. Well, I live in the reddest part of Red Ohio.
So, there you have it. In fact, the nation can pretty much thank Cincinnati and its surrounding counties for handing Bush his reelection victory.

It's hard to live here. Harder this week than last week.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:02 AM
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51. We need to start it. We need to meet at sundown tomorrow
with candles and flowers and signs at our Federal buildings and keep vigil for the dead, for the dying and for those still in danger.

We need to do that.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:22 PM
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39. Absolutely, Government flags should be flown at half -mast
in honor of all the victims.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:56 PM
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44. I wonder if it's because we were attacked by a human enemy?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 11:56 PM by cat_girl25
At least they tell us that. But I will be in mourning all weekend and probably longer. The topic always comes up when I talk to my family members. Sad.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:41 AM
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46. Please write LTTEs
telling them how ashamed we are of this President. Who can't even call a moment of silence for this awful tragedy and loss of human life. But who went golfing just after his visit the other day.

This whole thing makes we want to tear my hair out. I can't sleep. I live in Florida. Is my family next??? Oh... sorry, probably not. We're white, I forgot. I can't believe this is my America. :cry:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:49 AM
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47. I agree.
I'm trying to get from Denver to Houston, but have a car insurance problem to fix first. Insurance companies have the long weekend off. Ho hum, business as usual, the television lulls them to complacency. :grr:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:50 AM
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48. Didn't you get the memo? They're BLACK and POOR people, mostly.
Some of them even committed crimes!

You may go back to your previously scheduled sports and "reality" shows, and ignore the real reality of people starving and dying of thirst and illness in the streets of one of America's great cities.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:52 AM
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50. I totally agree.
I wonder if the casinos are as full as ever.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:07 AM
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52. my boyfriend keeps asking me why i seem melancholy
i keep thinking 'you have to ask?'. *sigh*
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:10 AM
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53. Me too
because they are black? Their lives don't mean that much?

I am sick over this, and livid at this government.

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:42 PM
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54. It would be nce to have
a 2 minutes silence for the dead and the dying still being denied assistance, right across Western Europe, at least. WWII, its origins and its nature have not been forgotten.
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