Another LIE debunked: The NOPD did NOT have cops walking off the job!

Walt Starr

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:16 AM
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Another LIE debunked: The NOPD did NOT have cops walking off the job!

Right now on CNN

Most of the bullshit rumors floated during the disaster were LIES designed to make Nagin and Blanco look bad!

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Libby2

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:18 AM
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1. You know I wondered about that

Granted the officers were in the same position as the citizens, lost homes, lost families, but this is a police force that was used to dealing with large, rowdy, crowds.

Lies, Lies, and more damned lies.

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undeterred

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:19 AM
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2. Now on ABC Stephanopoulous

200 walked off the job, 2 committed suicide last night

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Walt Starr

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:21 AM
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9. Who is telling that lie?

The Superintendent of th NOPD just debunked the SHIT out of the lie.

Said some were told to leave to take care of their families and were later recalled, but NOBODY walked off the job.

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muriel_volestrangler

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Sun Sep-04-05 12:16 PM
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37. The Chief of the State Police?

To make matters worse, the chief of the Louisiana State Police said he heard of numerous instances of New Orleans police officers _ many of whom from flooded areas _ turning in their badges.

"They indicated that they had lost everything and didn't feel that it was worth them going back to take fire from looters and losing their lives," Col. Henry Whitehorn said.

http://starbulletin.com/2005/09/02/news/story1.html

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stickdog

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Sun Sep-04-05 01:52 PM
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43. I heard that fucker on Fox, of course. He's was reporting hearsay

and acted like a Repuke operative.

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stickdog

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Sun Sep-04-05 01:53 PM
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44. I heard that fucker on Fox, of course. He's was reporting hearsay

and generally talking like a Repuke operative.

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Poppyseedman

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:29 AM
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16. NYTimes article

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/national/nationalspecial/04police.html?ei=5090&en=8bf8550c348bbc33&ex=1283486400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

W. J. Riley, the assistant superintendent of police, said there were about 1,200 officers on duty on Saturday. He said the department was not sure how many officers had decided to abandon their posts and how many simply could not get to work.

Mr. Riley said some of the officers who left the force "couldn't handle the pressure" and were "certainly not the people we need in this department."

He said, "The others are not here because they lost a spouse, or their family or their home was destroyed."

These are quotes so probably accurate

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Judi Lynn

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:19 AM
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3. It's going to take forever to beat down the lies and reveal the truth.

Thanks for your post. Very good news.

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ayeshahaqqiqa

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:20 AM
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4. Lie being perpetrated on Bernie Ward right now

I went to the link at the top of the Discussion Groups page, and Bernie wasn't on-instead, someone named Abbott. He was making the usual RW talking points about it being locals fault, and cited the NOPD as an example. In other words, he was blaming the whole debacle on the cops and the mayor. I shut it off in disgust.

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Alamom

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:20 AM
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5. Thank you for posting this info. n/t

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Algorem

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:20 AM
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6. ABC-2 NO cops committed siucide,200 or something have walked off(?)

Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:23 AM by Algorem

job(?I think he said about 200?)

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Solly Mack

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:21 AM
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10. Police Chief of NOLA just said no one walked off the job

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undeterred

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:35 AM
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19. How can they know if someone walked off the job

or had to leave for the sake of their family? Its not like their homes were all spared. Its not like the communications systems are working.

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blondeatlast

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:40 AM
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22. From your fingers to the press's ears; I had the same thought.

How can they possibly know this for a fact? It isn't possible.

Please, press, you've seen the utter devastation and you've shown your anger--now bare your teeth at those at the top.

You are US and we want the truth!

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Solly Mack

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:41 AM
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24. Are you asking how the chief of police of New Orleans would know?

Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:42 AM by Solly Mack

Or asking if those claiming officers walked off their job would know?

I'm gonna have to go with the Police Chief who said he had accountability of all his people.

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blondeatlast

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:44 AM
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27. I took it as the latter; that those claiming the "walkoffs" would have

no way of knowing.

Until it's proven beyond any shred of doubt, I'm calling it CYA bullshit by the Feds, perpetrated by the Heritage Foundation.

Note how quickly it has spread over the various interviews...

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Solly Mack

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:46 AM
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28. it is the right wing talking point of the hour

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undeterred

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:48 AM
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29. How can anyone know?

Someone posted here yesterday that 40 Starbucks employees are missing. Did they walk off their jobs? Did they drown? Did they evacuate the area?

I would assume a police officer would make every effort to contact the Police Chief, but there must be a lot of scenarios where they were unable to.

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Solly Mack

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:51 AM
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30. ah-OK

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Libby2

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:20 AM
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7. The chief just said

"they" tried to take him hostage and his people protected him, I wonder what that's all about?

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Solly Mack

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:20 AM
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8. 2 officers committed suicide

one because he learned his wife was dead and another overwhelmed by it all.

:(

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IMayBeWrongBut

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:22 AM
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11. My mom heard that rumor on PBS

Someone called in and said they were a former NO police officer and that they personaly 30 officers that had resigned. When asked why they quit she said they didn't say. I thought that was pretty strange why call a radio station without knowing why they quit?

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SofaKingLiberal

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:29 AM
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15. Obvious BS

Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:30 AM by SofaKingLiberal

personally knew 30 cops from NO? And was in communication with all of them? And it just happens that all 30 cops she knew quit? BS BS BS
It was a fkn freeper.

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TryingToWarnYou

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:23 AM
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12. One officer I saw said that many deserted..he was pissed

He went on for a good 2-3 minutes ranting about how when they took their oath it meant something and how they were cowards etc.

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:25 AM
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zippy890

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:32 AM
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17. and who's the president, pray tell

Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:33 AM by zippy890

in charge of the Federal Emergency Management Agency??

can you spell E M E R G E N C Y

can you spell F E D E R A L

can you spell I N C O M P E T A N C E ?

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PunkPop

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:35 AM
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20. Blame Blanco?

As in blame Tenet for the missing WMDs?

Or, blame 9/11 for the shitty economy?

Or, blame the 'terrorists' for the quaqmire in Iraq?

Is that you Karl?

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Walt Starr

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:39 AM
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21. Sure, Blame Blanco for the officers not deserting

Yep, Blanco and Nagin are both 100% responsible for the fact that the cops did NOT desert.

Bush is responsible for thousands upon thouosands of poor black people dying, though.

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TahitiNut

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:41 AM
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23. Well, that's really so 1950's. Really. Clue: FEMA

FEMA's sole reason for existence is for dealing with federal disasters even smaller than this. This is a federal disaster. It was even declared as such last weekend, before Katrina showed how to give Smirky-boy a blow job.

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alcibiades_mystery

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:44 AM
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You really have no shame, do you?

Just stop a minute and reflect on how you're behaving. Reflect on George W. Bush's actions in that glitzy resort Monday and Tuesday, cutting up cake and strumming a guitar while thousands of our citizens were dying. Wrap your head around that. Not as a partisan, but as a human being and a citizen.

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Cats Against Frist

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Sun Sep-04-05 09:31 AM
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32. You're right. Bush is god. Bush is our dear leader. Hail

to the Connecticut Cowboy. Kool-aid, good.

Can I get a swirley-eyed smiley?

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elehhhhna

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Sun Sep-04-05 09:35 AM
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33. She's Superwoman! She should save ALL THREE STATES!

not nice knowing ya.

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Spazito

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Sun Sep-04-05 10:05 AM
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35. The Federal Government failed, bush failed, FEMA failed

Homeland InSecurity failed. This meme from the right-wing won't wash no matter how hard it is pushed. Americans watched that federal failure right in their livingrooms, they know who is at fault.

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Media_Lies_Daily

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Sun Sep-04-05 10:40 AM
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36. And that buck can't be passed any farther than Herr Busch's desk....

...he's the guy that's told us for more than five years that he's in charge, but now he won't take responsibility.

Gee...what a surprise.

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blondeatlast

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:41 AM
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25. Where'd you see it? do we know for certain he was NOPD or LA

trooper?

I call bullshit on this lie--it's simply impossible to prove that it happened.

THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION, DU--don't buy the lie.

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zippy890

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:44 AM
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26. On CNN around 9:30 with Soledad O'brien

The Superintendent of Police - interview

he was very impressive and credible (didn't catch his name)

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zippy890

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:23 AM
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13. Incredible job by the NOPD!!

The police chief's story of how they responded was amazing!

I am so impressed by his description of how they conducted themselves.

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blondeatlast

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Sun Sep-04-05 08:34 AM
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18. First responders to Katrina: : I know your commitment never waivered

Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:36 AM by blondeatlast

and no one can convince me they ever did.

Thank you for your incredible service at the absolute worst.

:patriot::patriot::patriot:

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AnnInLa

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Sun Sep-04-05 09:27 AM
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31. All of the rescues, all of the officials you saw in the first 72 hours,

were LOCAL police, LOCAL guardsmen, LOCAL officials.....they were overwhelmed and thought that the feds would be there any minute. After all, they had been promised that, hadn't they? Hadn't Blanco reported that to them? Hadn't the feds promised that to Blanco?

In case you don't know, our Lt. Governor, Mitch Landrieu (Mary's little brother) was in the boats for 3 days, rescuing people. He waded thru the nasty water and collapsed on the pier, sleeping. Then he got up and went out again.

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elehhhhna

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Sun Sep-04-05 09:58 AM
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34. KICK

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Beam Me Up

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Sun Sep-04-05 12:18 PM
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38. I knew it. I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. That ONE FREEPER here was

posting that over and over again. Can't remember the handle now, but he'd racked up quite a few posts perpetuating that crap before he finally got tombstoned.

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TahitiNut

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Mon Sep-05-05 09:51 AM
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45. That's why it's important to hit 'Alert' (like I did) and ...

... help the moderators. The best Alerts do a bit of research. Look at other posts and give objective reasons. The Alert function is the moderators' best support.

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mzmolly

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Sun Sep-04-05 12:24 PM
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39. Is it possible some evacuated?

:shrug:

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RBHam

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Sun Sep-04-05 12:28 PM
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40. Carol Costello and Chris Lawrence ran the psy-op for CNN

Lawrence, SUPPOSEDLY, was hunkered down at a police station being sniped at. He was the source for the "city under siege" BULLSHIT and Carol Costello SOLD IT HARD.

I watched it.

It was obvious.

Will these two Operation Mockingbird scum ever be called out?

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shavedape

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Sun Sep-04-05 12:56 PM
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41. I know one that deserted

No gas, no radios, no authority...

he went back on day four and lasted one shift before taking a week off.

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Catherine Vincent

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Sun Sep-04-05 01:07 PM
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42. I saw video of some cop in NOLA yelling at other police officers

that fled NOLA. So there were some, I don't know how many though.

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RebelOne

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Mon Sep-05-05 10:00 AM
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46. Nagin was just interviewed on MSNBC

He said that there were 1,500 police officers before the storm and there are not about 1,200.

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