WTF is going on... FEMA crippling communications! I am pissed

I was skeptical about the jamming of radio frequencies...

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16475033%255E2703,00.html

Inside Sheriff Lee, of Jefferson parish in New Orleans, is sitting at a table, fuming.

He is doing his best to alleviate the biggest catastrophe he will ever witness, but lacks even the most basic of resources.

He cannot communicate with his own officers -- his officers can barely communicate with each other -- because the overloaded radio frequency keeps jamming.

This...

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m15382&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Since Bushzarro world is all about customizing reality for political reasons, chances are pretty good we will never know what happened in the wake of Katrina. "We can now report that the jamming of New Orleans' communications is emanating from a pirate radio station in the Caribbean," explains Madsen. "The noise is continuous and it is jamming frequencies, including emergency high frequency (HF) radios, in the New Orleans area. The radio frequency jammers were heard last night, stopped for a while, and are active again today.... However, we now have a new unconfirmed report that the culprit may be the Pentagon itself. The emitter is an IF (Intermediate Frequency) jammer that is operating south southwest of New Orleans on board a U.S. Navy ship, according to an anonymous source. The jamming is cross-spectrum and interfering with superheterodyne receiver components, including the emergency radios being used in New Orleans relief efforts.... A Vancouver, British Columbia Urban Search & Rescue Team deployed to New Orleans reported that their satellite phones were not working and they had to obtain other satellite phones to keep in touch with their headquarters and other emergency agencies in British Columbia." There are also rumors spreading on forums and blogs that troops are confiscating and destroying civilian cameras. Graphic photos are however surfacing on the internet, once again trumping the corporate media, handmaiden to Bushian crimes and cover-ups.


After watching the Russert interview with Aaron Broussard I don't doubt it a bit.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9179790/

The Coast Guard said, "Come get the fuel right away." When we got there with our trucks, they got a word. "FEMA says don't give you the fuel." Yesterday--yesterday--FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines. They cut them without notice. Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in, he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our line and says, "No one is getting near these lines." Sheriff Harry Lee said that if America--American government would have responded like Wal-Mart has responded, we wouldn't be in this crisis.

Anything I miss?

Peace.

I will call I am in a ass kicking mood!

I am back to as livid as I was Friday

where he's volunteering as a mental health crisis service provider. He told me he was talking to a doctor who's part of the Red Cross disaster relief team. This doctor was at the Superdome. He told my husband that there are places the media are not being allowed to go.

Someone has to get those pictures. :grr:

WHY?

THINK!

Anything + Bush = fucktarded and more than likely of his own making.

amongst ourselves than we listen to un-verified reports and some of us buy it - while others don't. Depending on how afraid we personally are of the Bushites.

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Dividing us with "rumours" worked well after 9/11 and the 2004 elections. Wait until we have multiple sources and reports on this one.

We know the pattern. If we fall for stuff and start fighting amongst ourselves - "fool me twice - shame on you...fool me three times..shame on us".

We are doing a great job of sticking together on this issues. Let's make sure the pieces of information we rely on are verified.

Meet the Press and repeated all day long on MSNBC

MR. BROUSSARD: Sir, they were told like me, every single day, "The cavalry's coming," on a federal level, "The cavalry's coming, the cavalry's coming, the cavalry's coming." I have just begun to hear the hoofs of the cavalry. The cavalry's still not here yet, but I've begun to hear the hoofs, and we're almost a week out.

Let me give you just three quick examples. We had Wal-Mart deliver three trucks of water, trailer trucks of water. FEMA turned them back. They said we didn't need them. This was a week ago. FEMA--we had 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel on a Coast Guard vessel docked in my parish. The Coast Guard said, "Come get the fuel right away." When we got there with our trucks, they got a word. "FEMA says don't give you the fuel." Yesterday--yesterday--FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines. They cut them without notice. Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in, he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our line and says, "No one is getting near these lines." Sheriff Harry Lee said that if America--American government would have responded like Wal-Mart has responded, we wouldn't be in this crisis.

as we were after 9-11
after the election(s)
during the war
and now
post karina

we better heed the call of our own
we better start thinking for ourselves
we better open our eyes and see
and our ears and hear
and make the connections
and see who benefits
and understand what they're planning

so we can prevent the ongoing loss of life
this isn't rhetorical anymore

of this tragedy. WHY was FEMA interferring with rescue and help efforts?

He said that FEMA cut their communications and that the Sheriff had to go in and post people there.

I'd listen to that interview if you haven't--he also said Walmart came with water and FEMA turned them away.

According to the Phoenix Fire Search and Rescue they were not allowed into New Orleans until Friday morning. The reason being.....too dangerous....

...a complete military take-over of the U.S.

a modern nation state behind you, yes. Who's going to stop you?

And the eyewitnesses to this current phase of the aftermath will talk. Too many are seeing this first hand. The gov't can't kill everyone.

the purpose of cutting the Sherriff's lines?

this is unbelieveable

People need help not this Bullshit...

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1077495.php


NEW ORLEANS � Combat operations are underway on the streets �to take this city back� in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

�This place is going to look like Little Somalia,� Brig. Gen. Gary Jones, commander of the Louisiana National Guard�s Joint Task Force told Army Times Friday as hundreds of armed troops under his charge prepared to launch a massive citywide security mission from a staging area outside the Louisiana Superdome. �We�re going to go out and take this city back. This will be a combat operation to get this city under control.�


Frame : Combat operations

Frame : take this city back

Frame : look like Little Somalia

Frame : massive citywide security mission

Frame : take this city back

Frame : combat operation

Frame : get this city under control

Frames are where the lies are you lousy fucktards!

--and a few desperate looters, drug addicts and gangsters (possibly only survival leaders--who knows?)? Take this city BACK? Take it BACK? Take back the city that they allowed to drown? Take back the city from the poor that were left behind? Take back WHOSE city?

You're right. This language is sending ice chills through me. This horror may be far from over. And I'm wondering right now where Dick Cheney is. Still "gone fishing" in Wyoming?

Look, I try to keep a positive frame of mind. I still think we can recover our democracy (if we get on election reform!), and I think there are some good people in the intelligence and military communities who are trying to restore order in the Fed gov't, and may be trying to prevent even worse things from happening. We must not give in to fear and panic--no matter what happens--and we also don't want to spread mis- or dis-information. At the same time, we need to be realistic, we need to exchange information, and we need to try to evaluate what's going on. And that often means guessing and surmising, in these circumstances. Putting bits and pieces together. Connecting dots, as well as we can. But our goal should be ACTION for the good! Whether long term--election reform is it! Or, short term--helping the victims. STAY PRACTICAL, is all I'm saying. Think: what can *I* do to help?

If they're cutting communications, then start developing ALTERNATIVE communications. I'm not a techie, so I wouldn't know how to do that. But I've certainly heard of ham radios and pirate radio stations. Perhaps reduce our dependence on the internet and on cell phones, etc. Back to Morse code? Smoke signals? I dunno. But that would be one PRACTICAL response to evidence of the gov't shutting down our communication with each other.

contradicting a previous different officials word.

Please post them, thx.

From the article "Troops begin combat operations in New Orleans":

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1077495.php

“We’re here to do whatever they need us to do,...”

"While some fight the insurgency in the city..."

September 4, 2005 -- Reports continue that communications in and around New Orleans are being purposely jammed by the US government (see Sep. 2 article below). The jamming is having an adverse impact on emergency, disaster recovery, and news media communications. The jamming is even affecting police radio frequencies in Jefferson Parish, according to an Australian news report.

Jamming radio and other communications such as television signals is part of a Pentagon tactic called "information blockade" or "technology blockade." The tactic is one of a number of such operations that are part of the doctrine of "information warfare" and is one of the psychological operations (PSYOPS) methods used by the US Special Operations Command. Jamming is currently being used by US forces in Iraq and was used by the US Navy in the botched coup attempt against President Hugo Chavez in April 2002. US Navy ships off the Venezuelan coast jammed diplomatic, military, emergency services, police, and even taxi cab frequencies in Caracas and other large cities.

From "The Manchurian Printer," Simson L. Garfinkel :

"Not surprisingly, the unclassified version of the Pentagon's report barely mentions the offensive possibilities of Information Warfare---capabilities that the Pentagon currently has under development. Nevertheless, these capabilities are alluded to in several of the diagrams, which show a keen interest by the military in OOTW---Operations Other Than War. "They have things like information influence, perception management, and PSYOPS---psychological operations," says Wayne Madsen, a lead scientist at the Computer Sciences Corporation in northern Virginia, who has studied the summer study report. 'Basically, I think that what they are talking about is having the capability to censor and put out propaganda on the networks. That includes global news networks like CNN and BBC, your information services, like CompuServe and Prodigy,' and communications satellite networks. 'When they talk about 'technology blockade,' they want to be able to block data going into or out of a certain region of the world that they may be attacking."'



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I am multitasking...not very well i might add

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

he may have a kernel of truth sometimes but usually he just fantasizes

the source you don't like instead of the story.

Lameness that leads to the death of the truth is intolerable at this time.

Have a nice day :)

Neither is his sheriff. Why the need to fantasize what is actually happening?

he's reported a lot stuff way ahead of the curve. we don't have the luxury of "approved" sources. please don't start this rancor. we're all a bit tired of it.

go and find stuff on the matter at hand. direct your energy to something that will benefit real people right now.

if YOU question a source, YOU need to go and do the research to support your claim. in the meantime, people have work to do.

Do they mean just radio comminications or is this land lines (phones) and cell phones too?

This probably has nothing to do with anything happening in New Orleans with FEMA etc currently, but something funky has been going on with the phone service in my area and it started with that other hurricane that hit a few weeks ago (the one before Katrina where Anderson Cooper was almost hit by a sign and whatever else on CNN)

I am no where near the gulf coast (far from it) I tried to call a relative in Virginia like the day after that storm hit--they were receiving some thundershowers but nothing major (remains of the storm but highly weakened)

GETTING TO THE POINT At first I could not call anything that was long distance. I kept getting messages that the number you have called is not in service--didn't matter what I called that was what I was getting. Then I tried calling locally, same deal...I coud call 800 numbers of all things (and no my phone service was not turned off or restricted-- I called the phone company on my cell phone to check)

The same damned thing happened to my phone service on Monday of last week (the day the Katrina hit) but it was kind of random...like if I kept trying to call someone eventually I could get through, but I had to try repeatedly and this was applying to my local calls also.

I wasn't trying to call any states that would have been impacted by Katrina BTW and again I am nowhere near the gulf.

I guess

A) I am wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this recently

and

B) My thought is... has this idiot fest of a federal government done something to cheapen, or screw up the communications infrastructure?

I don't mean this in a tinfoilish way--I mean it in a "what the hell have they screwed up now" kind of a way.

I have also received constant *wrong number* calls on my cell phone recently (like one and two a day)When I ask people what number they were calling --the numbers they have been calling weren't even remotely close to my number.

To me this all seemed strange at the time...like our systems are breaking down due to some type of loosened regulations, or something?
Maybe too many people have cell phones? I have no idea but I wondered about what was up.

Forgive the long rant about nothing!

a little paranoia could be good for us..........

I wouldn't know how to check but I would imagine the feds have loosened restrictions of some kind so the telecoms can make larger profits and offer unreliable service!

To the best of my knowledge there is no Martial Law there at this time. So the use of military equiptment in the military tactic of cutting lines of communication used against the American people is a violation of Posse' Comitatus. This constitutes an act of treason. But hey what's one more gonna hurt? We are no longer a Constitutional Country of Supreme laws and treaties. We now have a supreme leader. God save the Constitution!

:kick:

...I've posted two of them in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4631589


Peace.

are more and more about equipment and logisics and less about the refugees and crowd control/rescues.
Which has me wondering if the "people" aspect of the scanner info has been moved to more secure military channels?