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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:44 PM
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on MSNBC right now . They Better Let Them Take That Dog With Them!
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 02:29 PM by leftchick
Showing a Coast Guard Pickup of two young guys on a roof with a little dog. The poor thing is walking around wanting to be picked up. They have taken one guy up into the heli. I don't know if I dare watch the end. What if they take the next guy and leave that poor little dog on the roof?

I have seen too many dogs being left behind and tied up to porches surrounded by water.

:(
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:45 PM
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1. Dog and young man are being taken up!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:02 PM
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25. Yes
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:45 PM
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2. oh thank god
he is sitting in the oner's lap! Whew
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Genki Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:45 PM
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3. they did! they did!
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:45 PM
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4. The Humane Society should really come in and rescue those animals
at least they could place them in homes elsewhere?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:48 PM
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7. The USHS has not been allowed in!
like with the rest of these fuck up they have not been letting animal rescue groups in. :grr:

I did read from their web site they should finally be getting in today!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:49 PM
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8. Homeland security won't let them in
They will not want "outsiders" roaming around trying to round up animals.. they will shoot the strays:cry:

The people who had to evacuate will never be able to claim those pets anyway..


People with pets should always skedaddle BEFORE a storm, even if they have to sleep in the car:(

I would have a terrible time, but we acutally talked about how we would do it.. We have the "kitty gitmo" crate, and some heavy duty computer boxes, and two pet carriers.. We would have some very unhappy pets, but we would lie to a hotel clerk, and max out a credit card before we would leave the babies to fend for themselves:cry:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:51 PM
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11. I am with you SoCal
We would do the same. We have 4 cats and a dog. I would pack them all in the van with the kids I don't care the cost.

But we have to remember how many of these folks could not leave. :(
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:53 PM
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18. The thing that really bothers me is this.. Most likely
the people in NOLA have RELATIVES in LA..in places NOT affected by the storm.. Why not transport them AND their pets to a safer place outside NOLA, and let them use a goddamned PHONE to call family to come and get them..or pay for a lousy bus ticket to where the family is..

They are using a howitzer , where a flyswatter would be more appropriate (I am not minimizing the tragedy..just the govt approach to it)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:56 PM
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21. I am with you SoCal
the government obviously has no approach. :grr:
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:07 PM
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28. The poorest of citizens have pets. They might not have been
able to leave. You have computer boxes, crates, and carriers. You can stay in a hotel if you lie to the hotel clerk. This just may not have been possible for these people.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:26 PM
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33. True.. but they should have just been evacuated
to a place outside NOLA where they could have used phones to call friends and family.. they should never have been bussed to a "holding pen" with no way to even try to contact friends and family outside NOLA..
Had that been done, they would probably be staying with friends and family and their pet in some other place in LA..away from NOLA..and not "tagged" and boarded in yet another stdium..hundreds of miles away from their support system
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:34 PM
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35. I agree, my only point being that the poor people, old people, and
infirmed people could not evacuate, whether or not they had pets.

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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:49 PM
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10. They are there !
Humane Society of US (HSUS), Best Friends are on board - other groups,too - all working on this - helping out the local humane societies

Check out www.petfinder.com/disaster for more info
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:53 PM
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16. Excellent link!
I love petfinders. That is how we adopted our dog! I am still not sure they have made it into NO yet though. They were promised but you know how that goes.
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:56 PM
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20. Best Friends is 100 mi North of NOLA
Setting up a shelter. If you are in DU Pets Group, their bulletin is posted there
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MidnightWind Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:04 PM
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27. Thanks so much for posting!
Also, bestfriends.org has a special Hurricane Katrina section and you can volunteer to foster or adopt animals rescued.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:23 PM
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32. Thank goodness
I think those who lost pets need some comfort that their pets are being cared for.
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ezekiel333 Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:53 PM
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17. Some are being recused and the shelter needs help
From the WWLTV Katrina BLOG
<http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html>


9:10 A.M. -- The Jefferson Parish animal shelter said it has rescued over 100 animals from evacuees at Interstate 10 and Causeway Boulevard. The shelter issues an urgent appeal for national pet and veterinarian organizations to bring trucks to the animal shelter in Tylertown, Miss., and take animals away to places where they can be cared for.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:46 PM
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5. They let him keep the dog.
I'd refuse to go if it were me & my dog & they didn't let me take her.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:21 PM
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30. Yes.. I honestly think I'd have to choose to be left behind ...
Non-dog lovers think that is insane, but I couldn't live my life knowing I had abandoned my beloved doggie baby, anymore than I could after abandoning a human member of my family. Better dead than live a life of that kind of guilt and pain, I think... Sadly, this is what is being forced on these poor people who have lost everything. They also have to live their life with regret and guilt over those humans and animals left behind. It is the ultimate in cruelty.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:47 PM
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6. WHY ARE ALL THE NETWQORKS ON THE SAME FEED?!
Hasn't anyone noticed there's only one media camera feed on Fox, MSNBC, and CNN right now? Is there a total media control in place?
Thanks for taking the pooch, too.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:49 PM
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9. I noticed it
I am guessing they are limiting news to one pool reporter. I would like to think it is because of so many aircraft in the sky. But I do have darker ideas why.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:52 PM
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13. MNAY AIRCRAFT IN THE SKY?
Why aren't there hundreds of helicopters and thousands of boats?
This is a coastline, not the heartland.
The military has taken over. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
Sorry to make light of it, but wake up!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:55 PM
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19. I am very aware of what is going on.
Did you read my last sentence. There is no need to insult.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:02 PM
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24. Dont take personally
I know you're awake. And Xultar, I'm not talking about traffic choppers and news choppers. I'm talking rescue choppers. If this is the largest arilift in U.S. history you'd think that wide shot would show ops everywhere.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:04 PM
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26. I agree
the sky should be filled with them That was my hope.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:52 PM
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14. MANY AIRCRAFT IN THE SKY?
Why aren't there hundreds of helicopters and thousands of boats?
This is a coastline, not the heartland.
The military has taken over. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
Sorry to make light of it, but wake up!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:53 PM
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15. Just like Iraq
They will be 'embedded' and we'll only see what 'they' want us to see.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:51 PM
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12. Yes...one feed ...one camera....
We can only hope there are some independents running around on the ground with digital cameras etc....
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:59 PM
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22. I see one feed, no boats,
No other choppers. I know it's a widespread area, but where the hell are the boats? These neighborhoods have many people still in them. In houses, garages and attics they can't get out of. Where are the urban rescue crews? The scuba divers? Hell we have them here in Florida diving in the murkiest croc-filled ponds just to retrieve golf balls.
But I'll ask again, where are the boats?
I keep seeing the same carefully managed news stories about people not wanting to leave home (maybe because they have no idea what is going on), and shots from the airport, etc.
Managed news is not what we need right now. For Chrissakes, I feel that if Geraldo and others hadn't been screaming for help the people would still be at the convention center and Thunderdome.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:00 PM
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23. It is a pool feed. IT would be a waste o gas and the air space would
be fucked if there were hundreds of news choppers in the air.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:17 PM
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29. It seems the coast guard has often done the right thing and
scooped up the dogs along with the people when they could (and obviously they couldn't in every case). But, sadly, some of these pets were rescued only to be foreceably left behind when the owners were not allowed to bring them on the buses. I am so heartbroken about this. It compounds the human misery to such a tremendous degree.

I understand that some MI and AL evacuation centers have allowed dogs. It has kept everyone calmer, happier, and not caused problems. For the life of me, to force these dogs to be left behind is compounding the trauma on these poor people (and all of us watching) to such a tremendous degree. It is as unexcuseable as letting people die. It didn't need (and doesn't still need) to happen.

My own Ausssie/Lab doggie girl is probably going to start running from me now--I seem to be needing to reach out and hug her constantly....!
(Actually dogs know when their beloved "owners" are in pain.. In actuallity my own little gir has stayed close to me all week when I have been home. THat only underscores what a comfort these dogs could be for all those traumatized people)
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:22 PM
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31. For lots of people, their pets are their ONLY family...and not just poor
folks. I would rather stay in harms way with mine than abandon them.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:30 PM
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34. I totally understand that the pet lovers have a different perspective
and I respect that, but to me a minute used to save a housecat that could have been used to save a kid is a minute too many. I'm not trying to pick a fight here and I am not saying I am right, just that I have a different point of view when it comes to this.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:38 PM
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36. I assume you have no pets
because only a person that has loved and cherished an animal relates to these threads.
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