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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:41 PM
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Why Bush won't get away with this...
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 02:41 PM by Melodybe
Think about 9/11, think about Jon Stewart saying on the Daily Show that they wouldn't be making any jokes about the administration.

Think about how Michael Moore at the Oscars getting booed, think about how this is different.

There is no Osama to blame this on, this blame can go to the oil companies that lobbied congress for 30 years to get them to side with big oil and not science.

There is no one to blame but the inept, incompetant, heartless administration.

If you think for a scond that every black rapper is going to with hold criticism you're wrong. Kanye West and Celine Dion may have said it first but I'll be damned if Hollywood is going to sit down and shut up over this.

Expect the hear Bush called a murderer a lot in the near future.

The only question is, how much more damage than this asshole do before he gets impeached, then hopefully put in jail.

Impeach, Indict, Imprison, the rally call of ALL Americans.
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:43 PM
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1. Yes! Nominated because we have to change the way we think!
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:45 PM
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2. Note to DUers Bush can't get away with this
Not with his Nero/Marie Antoinette photo-ops, this bitch doesn't care and now the heart land knows it.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:46 PM
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3. I can only imagine the rage that Oprah is about lay down
bye bye Bush!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:51 PM
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5. You hope...
I hope. Freaking murderous, callous, incompetent fascist bastard. A jail cell is too good, far too good for someone who poses for faked photo-ops while people are DROWNING in their attics. Right now; today.


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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:53 PM
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6. Do you really think that OPRAH of all people will say a
single word against Bush?

I don't.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:59 PM
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7. I would put money on betting that Oprah will be livid
Oprah is a smart compassionate and empathetic woman. She will articulate the rage and horror that we all feel. The fact THAT IT IS KNOWN AND WIDELY ACCEPTED that funding for the levees and FEMA was cut and that she is also not just black but southern will be enough for her to take off the gloves. I can't wait.

She will not rant uncontrollably. She will be a journalist and provide the facts but I truly think the intent of her coverage will be to have an impact on the greater good. Sure she does a lot of fun fluff but when Oprah gets serious she's damn good.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:07 PM
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10. She may not call * out directly
But I guaran-goddamn-tee you she will not let the racism and incompetence rest.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:23 PM
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16. amen to that.
Go Oprah!
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:08 PM
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11. She's from Mississippi.
I'll bet that she'll be raging against someone.
Let's see who she picks.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:53 PM
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22. I'm guessing you didn't see Oprah's
Voting Party Show..about how important it is to vote..before the 2004 election. No one walked away from that show without knowing that Oprah would be voting for Kerry/Edwards.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:19 PM
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24. Have you ever watched Oprah, you don't even know
she's gonna be pissed.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:03 PM
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8. I posted this on another thread but I think it fits here.
I am so disgusted any time I see any member of this Administration. Pure contempt and rage.

These people...the entire Administration, the idea that we will have to be governed by them for 3 more years seems completely untenable.

I wouldn't trust them to put up a stop light, let alone anything else.

They get to make decisions to determine how NO gets cleaned up and rebuilt? No fucking way.

They get to make decisions on how to deal with the 100,000's of people who have displaced - considering the compassion, empathy and wisdom they have shown so far? No.Fucking.Way.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:51 PM
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21. How did you do, Melodybe, in the
Hurricane?!
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:21 PM
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25. Fine, we never even lost power, I housed a friend from Gulfport
Thanks for asking.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:48 PM
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4. Bush IS a murderer.
There ya go.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:04 PM
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9. No Bush jokes on the Daily Show
I wonder if they really lived up to this... no, don't think so...
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:23 PM
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26. For a few month they didn't say to much about Bush, but once we went to
war in Iraq, they gloves were off and they went after him.

I have a feeling they will not be letting Bush get away with this shit.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:10 PM
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12. The photos of the chimp*
and the birthday cake need to be circulated far and wide"Let them eat cake", and the photo of him playing the guitar while New Orleans drowns also.
The average american can understand that marie anntoinette and nero are burned into them, perhaps a faulty image, but one that suits this sociopathic, homicidal maniac to a tee.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:11 PM
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13. Arrest him and his administration for genocide and war crimes now.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 03:12 PM by Cleita
Put them on trial ala Nuremberg for their crimes. Let Congress take over the duties of the executive office until an election can be called.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:18 PM
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14. Sorry, I think you're wrong. Bush already HAS gotten away with it.
People here don't wan't to hear it, but Bush and Co. HAVE gotten away with it.

Only a small percentage of Americans watch Jon Stewart. I don't even watch him. And there's no widespread outrage because Saddam has taken Osama's place.

As for Michael Moore, so what? The same people who vilified him then will continue. He's become a whipping boy for the right.

Oil companies will simply come to Congress for more tax breaks. Who is stopping them?

As for blame, 75% of Americans think the LOCAL New Orleans and Louisiana officials are at fault, not Bush and the federal government. Bush isn't being blamed; Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin are, not to mention all the "looters", "rapists" and "murderers" who happen to be mostly non-white.

Kanye West was censored. The right has successfully turned "Hollywood" into a perjorative. Celine Dion will be dismissed as a Canadian and a socialist.

I don't disagree with your conclusion, for I think Bush and all the principal players in his administration should resign yesterday. But people here are way overestimating what will happen. These people are not going anywhere.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:22 PM
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18. I respectfully disagree, if only because the media are PISSED
The reporters who were there in NO have almost certainly been changed forever by what they experienced, and they aren't going to just go back to Aruba as if nothing had happened.

That'll be what makes the difference--people are going to read op-eds in their newspapers and see reporters on TV saying that BushCo are guilty of criminal negligence and dereliction of duty. It'll be like when Walter Cronkite was opposed to the Vietnam War. Of course, we don't have anybody iconic like Walter Cronkite these days, but the sheer number of reporters showing us the facts will have the same result, I think.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:04 AM
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45. Yes
We are seeing the destruction live on the TV news, unlike IRAQ which is sanitized and packaged by "embedded" journalists. Media people, even if they are clowns like Geraldo, have been deeply affected by it. I think they will follow up on this.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:47 PM
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19. i saw the censored kayane bit 5X yesterday on different news stations....
i went to friends party where her brother, who runs campaigns for republicans, hung his head in shame an offered not one word in defence of the admisnistation.
the country knows bush is a liar, now they know it's hurting more than foreigners. the nation is stunnned, but they are angry and not foolish enough to believe NO deserved to be left on it's own like that. people know something went very wrong. next week, the dems will connect the dots during the debate about estate tax.
reagonomics kills, and people are going to figure that out now.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:24 PM
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27. You are so wrong
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:06 PM
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40. I'm a pessimist
I don't think many realize what BushCo will do to hold power and how tight their media grip really is... in a short time, we'll see a few happy looking minorities on TV praising Bush and everybody will forget about the fiddling while NO burned.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:17 AM
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43. Don't be a pessimist, be a realist, and if you hadn't noticed
Bush does deal to well with reality.

Don't worry my friend, it will bite him in the ass.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:48 PM
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33. Rasmussen - Federal Response to Katrina Gets Thumbs Down
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:49 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Katrina.htm

Federal Response to Hurricane Katrina
Excellent 12%
Good 16%
Fair 25%
Poor 45%


Federal Response to Katrina Gets Thumbs Down

Survey of 1,000 Adults

September 2-3, 2005

Federal Response to

Hurricane Katrina
Excellent 12%
Good 16%
Fair 25%
Poor 45%

RasmussenReports.com



September 4, 2005--Just 28% of Americans give say that the federal government has done a good or an excellent job responding to Hurricane Katrina. Another 25% say the government has done a fair job while 45% say poor.

Interest in the story is extraordinarily high. Eighty-eight percent (88%) of Americans say they are closely following news stories about the tragedy, including 59% who are following it "very closely."

Forty-seven percent (47%) have made a financial contribution to help the victims of the disaster. Seventy-eight percent (78%) have said a prayer for them.

Eighty-five percent (85%) say that the "disaster in New Orleans and surrounding areas have a major impact on the U.S. economy. Consumer confidence has fallen to its lowest level in more than two years.

---------------------------------------------------------


The extremly high interest in the story coupled with those numbers shows people are listening.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:01 PM
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38. but, that does not count those who think locals are MORE at fault
they are desparately trying to pin the blame on Nagin & Blanco and many polls show they are more at fault than Bush.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:20 PM
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15. I like your attitude
Best post I have read today.

Nominated!
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:57 PM
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37. I like it too.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 09:59 PM by Independent_Liberal
I agree with Melodybe 100%.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:29 PM
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17. Kanye was just the beginning.
Look, I'm a Kanye fan, and he's always been arrogant, outspoken and incredibly entertaining. He also writes very eloquent rhymes about society and its many troubles.

"We're still tryin' to buy back our 40 acres"

It's coming... they will not be silent, and they are not intimidated by Bush and the righties.

Neither will we. Neither should anyone.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:44 PM
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23. Can't wait for Eminem & 50 cents's next songs/videos...I'm thinking "MOSH"
on steroids....:grr:

I think Melodybe is spot-on...its different this time....there is an undeniable fury and disgust in this nation and the image of the golf playing, cake eating, guitar strumming and fundraising Bush coming off of a 5 week vacation AS PEOPLE WERE DYING OF DEHYDRATION ETC, will not exit the minds of people....EVER.... :grr:
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mrsblister Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:51 PM
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20. NATIONAL STRIKE
I haven't posted enough to start my own thread but I think the march on Washington scheduled for Sept. 24 should be supported by a National Strike as well. if half a million people march...it will be quite a spectacle that makes a whole 25 seconds of a splash on some of the MSM outlets.

With a broad scale National Strike...NOONE can marginalize the degree of outrage nor the numbers of us involved. There are certainly MILLIONS and MILLIONS of us who simply can't attend or participate in Washington or even local gatherings but we CAN make a difference collectively simply by not going in to work or calling in sick in support and solidarity with the others who are marching that day.

The rigged elections, the war, the corruption, ALL inclusive in this massive protest and when 100 million people don't go to work that day there will very certainly be a reckoning or at least a visible show of what our numbers REALLY are.

It starts with a voice...preferrably one with a microphone and perhaps that voice could encourage a few friends with microphones (Air America?) to begin spreading the word...

NOW is the time folks...anyone disagree?

(thanks for the platform)
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:26 PM
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28. I've thought of doing something like that, only problem is that
unions don't have any power anymore and most people are so poor they have no choice but to go to work.
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mrsblister Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:29 PM
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35. call it a sick out then
it isn't a "union" strike...it's a strike of the entire population. Until everyone sees that EVERYONE is in disagreement with this criminal cabal and NOONE wants him anymore, the complicit media will continue to propogate the falsehood that we are dealing with something of a 50-50 split in our political makeup.

"i'm afraid to call in sick" just isn't a strong enough answer anymore. Our national media is worse than TASS, our congressional leaders are all on leashes by corporate massuhs'. $2/gallon is a piece of our history and will never return. as soon as gonzalez is made chief justice there will be torture of murkin citizens for not going to work so you might wanna rethink your concern at this time.

BTW...it worked fine for Lech Walensa when they wanted their country back.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:53 PM
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36. This is the kind...
...of action that can have real effect, but it must be well organized and done en masse.

http://www.karlandkinggeorge.com/Like_Rays_of_Hope.html
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:28 PM
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29. He already has.
And the media wants to cut him some slack as he ponders the IMPOORTANT question of just WHO will fill Lucifer...err....Rehnquist's seat....
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:37 PM
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30. Bull, this thing has just started, we are talking about the worst disaster
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 07:37 PM by Melodybe
in the history of the US, if you think for a moment that this is just going away you're crazy.

In 2 days Bush pretended to be Nero and Marie Antoinette, that bitch is going down.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:15 PM
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31. Think of little bush sitting next to daddy rove and uncle dick
at the card table. He's in another fix. So he plucks down a card and says "patriotism card?"
and rove and dick make a funny face. bush baby looks scared, his voice rises "patriotism card??" daddy and uncle exhale, at a loss as to what to do.

"Pay Tree Uh Tizz Um Caaaaard!" bushy squeels as he watches his political capital swept from the table.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:32 PM
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32. What scares me is, they are in POWER and will do ANYTHING to stay there

NO MATTER WHO OR WHAT GETS HURT

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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:17 PM
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34. True, it is also our job to get them behind bars before they kill even
more people.

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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:03 PM
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39. Yup, that's our duty as citizens.
:)
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:31 PM
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41. I wish I could agree with you, but I can't.
I think Bush will get away with this, like he has everything else in his life. His base will not desert him over the deaths or suffering of poor, black Americans. Most of his base don't see that as a bad thing.

Republican voters are a callous lot. Nothing about Katrina will change that, IMO.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:16 AM
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42. Repeat to yourself Bush's base is only at about 33%
You know them, the fox watching idiots, you know the ones that hated Clinton the whole time.

His base is smaller than you think it is.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:40 AM
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44. Agreed. Sign here:
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