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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:35 PM
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Why is DU and Daily Kos 'censoring' Katrina?
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 03:40 PM by nascarblue
Madsen is reporting that readers should be aware that web sites like Democratic Underground are "locking" information on the radio jamming in Louisiana and the corruption involved in FEMA hurricane disaster preparedness (IEM Team contract). Readers should also be aware that the Pentagon's technology blockade strategy extends to the Internet. Web sites like Democratic Underground and Daily Kos have a lot of explaining to do when they censor critical information during a national emergency. These web sites, along with Fox News and the other news sources with overt and covert political agendas, are not serving in the public interest and should be avoided as sources for important information. For example, some Daily Kos posters are questioning whether FEMA deliberately cut Jefferson Parish's emergency telephone lines. That is because many of those involved with Daily Kos and Democratic Underground are squishy Democrats with a pretty obvious agenda.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/



I definitely believe it when it comes to bootlicker Kos. Try to mention Israel on his site and see what happens. But on DU? Hard to believe. I will postpone judgement until I hear responses. Is it true that this part of the Katrina story is being censored? I happen to know first hand that it's true. FEMA has sent in Halliburton thugs to terrorize the whole city. Alot of media outlets are reporting about FEMA cutting communications lines all week. Now we heard it first hand on Meet the Press. So whats the deal DU people?

By the way, since Bush's oil baron thugs have put in motion a fascist browshirt clampdown yesterday on information nationwide, I suggest you head over to http://nola.com/weblogs and read them before they get erased. dozens of message board posts of first hand testimonials of the Bush-FEMA-DHS-KBR genocide.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:39 PM
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1. ;-)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:40 PM
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2. Censored?
I have no one at my back with a gun right now. Not yet anyway.

How can you censor the voices here? Most of us are pretty damn news savvy and wouldn't believe something unless there is good proof or eyewitnesses. I've never seen a more truth-demanding crowd as this.
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:42 PM
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6. Is this happening?
Thanks for the reply. I haven't been on this board until today, since Katrina hit. Why are they on your back? What did you post?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:40 PM
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3. Wayne's back!
Or is he reporting from an undisclosed location? Last I heard the Black-Ops team were contracting a hit on him. Is it a good idea for him to be posting now?
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:42 PM
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5. Heh
:)
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:49 PM
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17. Hey, I wouldn't chide too much about 'the hit'
After all, the Mayor of New Orleans said TWICE on television that he had heard that the CIA wants to take him out for going off last Friday. DID you see that? In fact, I read that on Kos. And I'm listening to WWLTV.com and they just reported that the 'looting' is pure propaganda. The chief of police just said that.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:42 PM
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4. This has been hashed out already -
resulting in the following thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4630068

Your thread will probably get locked too - if you have questions for the people running this site contact admin@democraticunderground.com
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:42 PM
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10. thanks., thats what I wanted to know
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:42 PM
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7. Both DU and KOS are private sites
the people who run them can do whatever they want.

Tell Madsen to run his own site if he doesn't like it.

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:42 PM
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8. Bootlicker Kos?
Shaddup.
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:44 PM
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12. What? Are you saying Kos isn't ? Ask the DLC
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he's changing, but I've seen it first hand many times.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:42 PM
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9. Madsen's full of it.
The jamming was traced to a pirate station in the Carribean.

We can do without the histrionics.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:44 PM
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13. You'll likely be raked over the coals, but I agree.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:43 PM
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11. They don't know DU very well if they think we could all agree
on something like that. :bounce:
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:45 PM
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14. I agree, I've never noticed DU censor
Which is the exact point. Instead of all being locksteped RNC Bushbots who are all programmed, here at DU there has always been disagreement. Disagreement IS Democracy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:48 PM
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16. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:51 PM
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18. That's messed up
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 03:52 PM by nascarblue
I thought it might have started happening because the RNC and Bush have been using DU posts for their twisted reports on FNC. They find the most outlandish and say that all DEmocrats are reporting this. Which if you believe in the first place, you would NEVER be or vote Democrat. But maybe DU and Kos fold under that bluff.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:53 PM
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20. Maybe your star went away because you hadn't donated in a year?
:eyes:
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:46 PM
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15. Madsen's infatuation with skull-duggery around every corner....
...100 percent of the time, is about as productive as trying to catch a bunker buster bomb with a butterfly net.

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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:52 PM
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19. HERE"S DU"S ADMISSION AND ANSWER FROM ADMINISTRATORS
EarlG ADMIN (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 03:18 PM
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REPOST: Eloriel's thread. Plus a word on conspiracy theories
I want to be clear: at the beginning of this whole disaster I reminded the moderators to remove particular topics of discussion which we have removed in the past. This week has certainly demonstrated - again - that the Bush administration is criminally incompetent, but we are not going to be hosting discussions about weather control any time soon on Democratic Underground.

Earlier I removed a thread by Eloriel which had been previously locked. At first glance this thread appeared to be inappropriate, specifically because of the premise that the Bush administration deliberately planned the poor response as some kind of social experiment.

However, DUers were using this thread to build a large and useful collection of links, and attempting to create a timeline of events. As a courtesy I have spent some time recreating the links from the deleted thread and they appear in the post immediately below this one.

We have also instructed the moderators to back off a little on locking threads. I hope you can understand that this has been an incredibly difficult time to moderate the message board, and the moderators and administrators have been doing the best they can under very difficult circumstances. Inevitably there will some arguments about threads that were locked which shouldn't have been, and threads that weren't locked which should have been. We appreciate your patience as we continue to try to work through this, and in particular we would ask you not to repost threads which have been locked. Please contact me directly if you have a question about a locked thread.

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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:55 PM
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22. I totally disagree with 'censoring' for raising issue of 'Bush complicity'
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 03:55 PM by nascarblue
As stated in the 2nd paragraph. You have to be living in a dream world if you think the Bush admin isn't criminally complicit in the levee flood of NO.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:53 PM
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21. it's a tough assignment....
I don't want DU to become a wacko site. It could easily become discredited with some wild claims. A few right wing stations or websites publish those threads and soon DU is some radical site with questionable integrity. That being said you still need room for new theories to be worked out and become legitimate news.

So give the admins some room. They may error one way or another from time to time. But overall they do good.

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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:59 PM
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25. I agree to a point, but bending over to FNC brownshirts is pathetic
The Dems have been spineless for too long. I am so sick of watching Dem leadership flinch to all these ridiculous games by the right. To not talk about criminal complicity possibilities of the Bush admin, OR Clinton for that matter, is straight fascism.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:56 PM
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23. I did see a post here on the comm lines being cut in Jefferson Parish
I don't know if it has been locked. But I have found myself wondering a couple of times now (not only with info coming out of NO) if some of our moderators are infiltrators and locking threads to censor information?
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:02 PM
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26. Thanks for reply, one more question....
I haven't been on this board all week. So you're telling me that all week you've only seen one thread of FEMA cutting communications? For christs sake, the head of Louisiani EMT said on MEET the PRESS that FEMA cut the New Orleans Police Communication lines just this morning. He said they had to post armed guards after they reconnected. This is sad. I'm going to try to find the DU admin and hit him up.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:57 PM
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24. Hardly. I've read about it nowhere BUT here..... nt
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:03 PM
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27. Well, let me jump off this thread and check it out. I hope you're right NT
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:04 PM
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28. Locking
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