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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:38 PM
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Freepers' bus barns are irrelevant to charges against Bush.
I am pissed Nagin didn't use them and I knew he wasn't using them Sunday night.

But what the freepers don't understand that even if Mayor Nagin flew to Cancun right before the storm and disappeared, it would not make Bush any LESS guilty for HIS incompetence and deriliction. I am trying to find where they think this discovery, even if it proves Nagin was asleep at the wheel, vindicates Bush AT ALL.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:40 PM
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1. Nagin admitted turning down school buses from outside - said he said
"what - school buses - bullshit - get every travel bus from anywhere nearby here".

Don't know why that is so hard to understand.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:49 PM
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5. I don't understand
He was turning down school buses because he wanted nicer buses?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:33 PM
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10. He admitted it in his radio address. That was day one. He had no idea
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 10:34 PM by applegrove
that 1) nobody would hear him and just plumb not send him anything 2) he needed more expertise & federal leadership than he was getting 3) that he didn't have enough troops to keep the peace. Being a Mayor and not a professional in military situations - he didn't know.

The school busses he was offered were from counties all outside the devastation. They also had travel buses too. How long is the ride from NO to Houston? How long in a traffic jam? How long without toilets?

He made the assumption that things would pan out like they have for all previous national tragedies. And there would be mobilization of all the groups who stood up on their own. Instead Bush ordered them all to stand down.

IMHO
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:38 PM
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11. He was concerned with the welfare of people evacuating from NO
and in his mind - during a federal emergency buses that were capable of handling families for perhaps hours was important. Those people already had lived through the storm and lost all their homes & possessions. He didn't know what it would turn into on Wednesday. Predicting **** like that is the job of the military & Pentagon & State Department &, not to be left out, FEMA.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:40 PM
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2. If * supporters don't understand...........
this act was criminally negligent and lacked an ounce of humanity, maybe they'll get that it simply SHOWED NO COMMON SENSE.

That phrase seems to hit them hard.....common sense is something the "intellectual elite" doesn't have, according to them. Urghhhhh........
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:45 PM
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3. Freepers are ignorant fucks...
if Nagin was at fault why isn't Barbour in MS just as guilty. Relief didn't start coming into MS until Bush and his administration got off their asses.

Oh wait, Haley Barbour's a repug.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:53 PM
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6. It's their blind hatred of all things liberal. They can't see past that.
I swear they can't! It's mind blowing. :crazy:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:55 PM
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8. It also may be their hatred of all things BLACK....
like Nagin. And 67% of the population of New Orleans.

Redstone
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:46 PM
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4. 5 or 10 K out of better than 100 K ... it is a red herring.
It is BESIDE the point which was the legal obligation that the Homeland Security act imposed upon FEMA to assist in the evacuation.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:54 PM
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7. This is why it's Bush's fault and it's simple to explain.
He is the ONLY person who can summon the power of the armed forces in a catastrophe.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:56 PM
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9. I'm sure there's plenty of blame to go around....
But if Buxh thinks none of it can stick to him, then I think the facts will come as a surprise.

He bears the most generous share. To push the sole responsibility off on lessor politicians is at the same time inexcusable and predictable.
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