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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:49 AM
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Once New Orleans is dry and cleaned up, What happens then?
Do they have to bulldoze all the small, old houses that were sitting underwater in the flooded areas? Can they just pull out all the carpets and dry wall and rebuild from that point?

What will have to be done at that point?

And could some of the properties have been foreclosed on before the people return?

And what happens to the houses that people simply abandon?
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:51 AM
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1. That Much Standing Water Destroys Drywall And Wood
Mold problems will be astronomical.

Best bet is to start over.

About the only things that survives are structures based on steel.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:52 AM
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2. eminent domain
:shrug:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:00 PM
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16. yep, the sc ruling of eminent domain was
absolutely prescient. All those without will once again lose everything.
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:52 AM
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3. Can't you guess? Haliburton rebuilds, Mepublican developers
sell off luxury apts. and get richer, and the displaced further their decent into poverty.
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:58 AM
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14. Bingo! Halliburton wants a giant oil producing structure and pipeline, now
with all the poor folks out of the way they can have everything they want and there will be an efficient levee system to protect it. And guess who will pay for it.

Eminent Domain. Property ownership? Bwahahahahaha -
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:53 AM
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4. It will be rebuilt as New Corpleans
The new, corporate vacation spot.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:53 AM
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5. Prime property to favoured developers

at throw away prices!!
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:53 AM
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6. It'll get razed and the rich will get richer off that property
rebuilding New Orleans won't leave space for the poor.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:54 AM
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7. I have a theory that Katrina will be used as an excuse for a huge
"eminent domain" grab by private developers (cough-Bushco supporters-):tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:59 AM
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15. I hadn't thought of that before, but with these resposponses...
...I'm beginning to wonder.

I wonder if some of the Levees were encouraged to fail, it wouldn't take much of a breech to start a major flood. :tinfoilhat:
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:56 AM
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8. Wow-thought I'd be the first answering the question! I'm just not fast
enough! Glad to see others have the same suspicions I do--didn't really need to add the tin foil hats, I guess!
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:56 AM
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9. What about the personal property
that is salvageable? Who gets to keep any valuables that are uncovered during the clean up? This whole post-storm cleanup should be somehow monitored. Some Halliburton pockets will get a little extra lining. How are any of these poor souls going to be able to prove ownership of these simple homes that have been in families for generations. My god, how cruel this world is, how is it possible to have less that nothing!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:14 PM
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22. I'm sure most of the old and waterlogged cars are going almost...
...directly to China, the Scrap Metal business must be salivating at the prospect.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:15 PM
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23. through tax bills, parish records, title companies, etc
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:22 PM
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27. Right now, folks are being allowed back into their homes for 12-hr shifts
Get in your house by 6am, gather what you can, be gone from your house by 6pm.

This is assuming that your house is still standing and that the roadways leading to your house are not blocked by flooding, debris, etc.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:56 AM
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10. Thank God we have the Kelo decision
:sarcasm:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:04 PM
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17. I think the 'liberal' justices really screwed up on that one
I know atleast in Stevens case (and I'm assuming the same is the case with 3 of the other 4 that went with the case) it was not done with the intent of harming the poor. He actually admitted that that case along with the one regarding medical marijuana were done because of his overall judicial philosophy rather than the particular situation.

But, intent is meaningless because it seems like the repercussions of the ruling will be disasterous. I wish the five (or 6 - I'm not sure with the med. mar case) that went with the majority in those two rulings realized that in certain cases (especially Kelo) that that precedent would be unlikely to be interpreted in a positive way later down the road.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:11 PM
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20. Yup, intent is meaningless
especially when the poor property owners are told, "your property is way too valuable for you to live on it, after all we have to pay to rebuild the city"
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:57 AM
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11. Everything is covered with toxic waste up to 12 feet high.



It will be a monumental task to overcome.

And they have to rebuild the infrastructure. Roads, sewer lines, water lines, electric power distribution, phones, schools, it will be like starting all over.


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:58 AM
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12. Disney meets Stepford..that's what
The poor MOSTLY RENTERS will never again live in New orleans.. They have beeen dispatched to mostly red states, their unity diluted. They will be increasingly shunned by the communities who acepted them, because the feds will gradually turn off the spigot of money to care for them. They are still poor, probably poorer, and just in a different place:(

Most of them will have no resources to even move back..but if they did, they would find shiny new condos and hotels priced tousands of times higher than their means..

New Orleans turned blood red forever with Katrina. Katrina flushed the democratic base right out..

By the time this is all over, the press will line up behind *² that the local democrats and the "democrat" woman governor screwed up, and Jindal will be the next governor, Landrieu will be defeated, and so it goes:(
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:58 AM
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13. Always wanted to go to NO so I hope it stays the same.
It is just part of the US and our history. It must come back.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:20 PM
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26. They may keep the French Quarter for tourists but without the soul gumbo
it will never be the same. Just as 9-11 was an opportunity to invade Iraq this will be the chance to build the sterile city they would prefer.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:07 PM
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18. AFTER IT'S DRY? THEY GO IN AND DIG OUT THE DEAD
WE ARE A LONG LONG WAY FROM BULLDOZERS!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:12 PM
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21. That's what I meant by "Cleaned up" i.e. remove the dead and...
...any of the Toxic sludge that is there now.

I heard that N.O. had a few "Brown field" sites and at least one EPA "Super Fund" site that had not yet been cleaned up too.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:08 PM
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19. If they have to waste most of the buildings
I hope they rebuild them to withstand ten foot of water and turn New Orleans into an American Venice.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:12 PM
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24. kick n/t
:kick:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:51 AM
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29. kick n/t
:kick:
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:16 PM
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25. Someone on CNN or MSNBC
said it would actually be cheaper to tear down most of the damaged homes and rebuild them than to "salvage" them.
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Winston702 Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:25 PM
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28. rebuild
They will rebuild but not with as much low cost housing. Those of the Diaspora whom are on government assistance have little reason to return. These people will begin to recieve their monies in their new locations. They may also find that the cost of living is cheaper in their new location.

Katrina will have gentrified NO.
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:34 AM
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30. Its what I really wonder...
I think they might build the oil refinery on top of the base town. Crate a huge condiminium complex and relocate wealthy people there. Popular have-alots town.
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