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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:39 PM
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RawStory: Jefferson Parish Pres.: "They're keeping the body counts down...
because they don't want to horrify the nation."

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Jefferson Parish President: 'I'm not surprised at what the feds say, they're covering their butts. They're keeping the body counts down because they don't want to horrify the nation. It's worse than Iraq, worse than 9-11. They just don't want to know how many were murdered by bureaucracy.' Developing hard....


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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:40 PM
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1. Sadly
I anticipated this happening.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:30 PM
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15. We all knew this was coming......
Its what they do. Next is the coverup and stonewalling.
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cloud75 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:18 PM
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33. You can't hide behind the flag shrub!!!!
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:41 PM
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2. This is one of the reasons I am so happy James Lee Witt is
there. I think he will help to keep the truth out there.
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:43 PM
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3. His prescentce is pissing the Republicans off.
He is making the current FEMA Director Brown look useless. He is and they know it. This just puts it in their face.
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:06 AM
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41. James Lee Witt
The Republicans may be afraid to admit that Clinton's people and policies were the best after all.

Hillary Clinton is planning to file legislation to move FEMA out from under Homeland Security and to make the head of FEMA a cabinet level position, as it was under Clinton.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:44 PM
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4. Brousard may soon have to stop flying in small planes
or otherwise avoid being suicided.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:30 PM
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20. They'll start Swift-boating him pretty soon...Watch Rover get after it....
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 02:32 PM by OneTwentyoNine
He's too pissed and too emotional on TV at Bush for Kkkarl to let stand. Watch the shit storm against this guy begin.
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:55 PM
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23. Bush is on TV at leturn with Roberts pretending nothing happened
will the media let him get away with it?

Write to your Congressperson and the media demanding Arrest and trial, it is not going to get any better.

Does anyone have the link for the Geraldo Rivera, Sam Shepard righteous meltdown. I downloaded it and watched it last night and to have Fox new media so outraged crying and disgusted throwing up their hands, pleading that these people be allowed to go free, talking about the CHECKPOINTS at the end of the bridge which was the only way for the people locked in the dome to get out and the ones who were not allowed in were turned back at the checkpoints (just like Iraq) and couldn't get to food and water and they were outraged.

I would like to post the link for other people on AOL and Yahoo Messageboards but downloaded it from DU thread and don't remember which one. Protect Brossard and others, demand answers from the media don't just talk about it here and put up articles and links to truth sites on neutral messageboards for people who don't know about the politial truth sites.
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Klimmer Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:31 PM
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30. Here is the Shepard and Rivera Fox Video . . .
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:38 PM
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31. Broussard? Is that there one of them FRENCH names?
If the evil scum win on this one, and get away with what they have (and have not) done, then it'll be fairly apparent that they can get away with anything. 'Bye-'bye, Miss American Pie...
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:41 PM
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32. Yeah, I was thinking that after his appearance w/Tim Russert...
and BTW - Tim Russert displayed no compassion towards that poor man as he broke down. I was appalled at how he acted. He should be ashamed... I think 'Big Tim' would have been ashamed too...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:45 PM
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5. Can't find it.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:56 PM
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6. We don't need body counts. The truth is obvious.
:cry:

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:59 PM
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7. no, we do need body counts...
...each and every single human being who lost their life from this incompetence needs to be counted, dignified, and atoned for.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:03 PM
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10. I agree
This contry is about accountabilty - something these criminal fucks in the current administration know nothing about.

CNN just said that numbers about 10,000 are possible...
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:16 AM
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42. Oh, I think it's much higher than 10,000.
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 12:19 AM by Nothing Without Hope
The area affected was HUGE, most of at least 3 states, and many towns were partly or completely demolished. Then there were the monstrous delays and blocks of aid to the survivors. The death toll is still rising because people are still dying of neglect.

Many bodies will not be found because of the totality of the destruction and the floods. Also because people are taking it into their own hands to bury their neighbors and friends because the government would let them rot in the streets for who knows how much longer. For example:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4622712

And yes, of course the Feds will lie about the death toll. They do for Iraq too.

For me, another very important question, even harder to ansewer but we have to try:
How many deaths took place BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS AND BLOCKS OF AID?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:13 PM
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24. Count the bodies. Count the votes.
Once again the rethugs prove they are complete no-accounts.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:59 PM
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8. good old cracker boy haley barbour
was saying mississippi was only 1 or 2 hundred-what a criminal douche like 98% of the thugs
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:49 PM
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17. Barbour and Mississippi - I have relatives who survived still in Gulfport
and they know men who came in from NC right after the storm to help with search and rescue.

These were guys who had some law enforcement background and training ...

anyway those guys said after working to rescue people in the areas of Gulfport between the coast and the railroad tracks

they estimate Gulfport alone will have 800 - 1000 dead, minimum.

Haley Barbour is covering up - how can we focus on Mississippi and get the truth out with Barbour and Lott whitewashing everything?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:22 AM
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43. Need to get local reports and compile them. No way people will long
believe that the entire state only had 100-200 deaths. In the end, they are going to be showing what callous, craven liars they are, because the truth is going to get out no matter how hard they try to lie and bury it.

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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:08 PM
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11. Body counts are a grim reality but necessary. If they are covered like
how the flag draped coufins are when brought from Iraq, or the unreleased Abu Gharib photos, people lose a sense of real cost, in lives. That is how people become desensitized and begin to turn a blind eye and the issue gets lost.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:13 PM
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12. People Are Missing. Americans Are Missing.
Their families are looking for them --- the data base will be huge. How are they planning on dealing with that?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:21 PM
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13. Never forget the golden rule. Republicans ALWAYS LIE about numbers
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:25 PM
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14. Holy crap!!! -- this could be grounds for impeachment
If it's demonstrated and it can be proved, this would be just another example of criminal negligence and complete disregard for the truth and the American people.

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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:39 PM
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16. This doesn't surprise me in the least...
the only way this admin. and the Rethug party as a whole keeps their numbers up is by lying, distorting, spinning, lying, manipulating, lying, cheating, stealing, lying, hiding, extorting, etc., etc., etc....oh, did I mention lying?

The truth about this has to come out, and with people like Brousard, Blanco, Naglin, Landrieu, Witt, etc. it might just have a chance.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:14 PM
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25. I think you forgot blackmailing, bullying, bigoting, and lying. - nt
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:55 PM
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18. "...murdered by bureaucracy."
That needs to be the new mantra against repukes!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:28 AM
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44. Oh, I like "passive genocide" or "economic cleansing." Because it was NOT
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 12:34 AM by Nothing Without Hope
the "bureaucracy" that killed these people, it was the Bush and his top people giving orders that were carried out. And it was deliberate delay at the minimum.

Watch this smoking gun video from the UK. It's an interview of a top NorthCom military spokesman, who tells that yes, they were following the hurricane and were ready with millions of meals, search-and-rescue helicopters, everything.
http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/katrina/BBC_Katrina.mpg
But -and you'll have to watch for this sentence late in the video clip - they could not go in without Bush's permission.

Which, we know, they did not get.

Bush knew what was going on, he was warned, he had the people ready to help, and he delayed for days and days before allowing them to help. Even now, it's not clear to me that there is anywhere near the level of help that could be given. I also suspect that it is likely to be given predominantly to white people of means rather than the poor black victims. But how could they complain? To get an idea of how it is in these poor communities now, read this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4634032&mesg_id=4636517
thread title: Veterans For Peace (the same group that supported Cindy)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:02 AM
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45. We've been predicting a disaster for a major blue city for months -
but we all thought it would be a terror attack. Bushco thought this would be even better, because they couldn't be blamed for the weather.

It is highly unlikely that all these people will be available for voting in '06. And even if they are, this gives Bushco cover for a deeper shift to red "they were grateful to the President for helping them after the hurricane".

The administration will will disenfranchise thousands, and steal thousands more votes to prevent LA from going blue.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:08 PM
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19. nation knows - only ones clueless are wh and admin and
the rest of the ding a lings
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:51 PM
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21. the outrage in this catastrophe is so tremendous
they will have a difficult time hiding the numbers. Not to say that they wont try, we all know the tactics of this misadministration. But people will want to know, and there are enough dems on the ground including nagin, landreau, blanco and dewitt that it might be pretty hard to hide them for long.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:52 PM
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22. Has his video(s) been played on all the networks? n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:19 PM
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26. BUSH LIKE AHBU-GARAB PIC'S WILL BE CENSORED!!
SO WILL THE ACTUAL BODY COUNT...!
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:22 PM
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27. After 9/11 photos and descriptions of missing
people were all over NY.

The Media should do this, since the affected areas are so large. They should get pictures wherever possible and keep showing them ~

A website also should be set up for family members and friends to post descriptions and photos whenever possible ~

Even though many in the affected areas have lost everything, including photos, they have relatives most likely in other states with pictures etc.

If this is done and word gets out so that families and friends have a plact to list their missing loved ones, it will make it much harder for them to hide the dead.

They've hidden the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan, and must not be allowed to do it again. Some day, a body count needs to be done in those countries also ~ the results of these policies are simply not known to most Americans. Knowing the truth should help stop this madness in the future ~
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AndrewJacksonFaction Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:30 PM
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29. Already has. See if you folks can push this.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:27 PM
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28. THIS SHOULD REMAIN KICKED UNTIL BUSH RESIGNS
RESIGN MR. PRESIDENT...! TAKE A BULLET FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE FOR ALL OF US...!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:48 PM
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34. Shame should force him to resign.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:11 PM
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37. truth and facts are on our side
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:06 PM
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40. Shame game: calling all crackers: Dear Mr. President:
that means YOU white people: We're going to have to exorcise this demon sooner or later and I DARE you to crank this w/ the freepers to see just how far they will let you go.

Dear Mr. President:

Dear me, it is terrible what has happened in New Orleans. I've only visited there once. It was a little crowded and scary for my taste and I was afraid. But its still an American city and so sir, I hope you can find the money to take care of those people. I know that the Iraqi War (God bless our soldiers) is costing a lot of money. I'd have to bet that the people of New Orleans can't appreciate that right now.

I know that there is a tax cut coming up for review for Congress, Sir, and I'd like to ask you to stay with that for as you know, little businesses like mine, depend on that kind of attention from the government.

God Bless America, Mr. President.

Sincerely, and in faith,
white cracker from Atlanta
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:01 PM
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35. If they say that an "unidentified" person isn't being counted...
then tell them that aborted fetuses, who have no identification, also are not counted.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:10 PM
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36. Horrific, to be sure, but not worse than Iraq...
unless you don't count dead Iraqis - oh wait...
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:15 PM
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38. I think this will have to be a time that the internet does
what they hate the most: Keep the truth alive. We all know they will lie on the numbers. The press is going back their usual stance of allowing this administration to get away with things. And the administration is working on doing a Rove job on the Governor and NO Mayor. So it must be up to us to keep the facts alive. Keep people informed of how many bodies are really piling up on Bush's door. The nation needs it now more than ever.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:51 PM
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39. 20,000
WALK FM Long Island this morning quoted an "anonymous" government official as putting the dead at an estimated 20,000. They didn't say if that was just for NO or in total of all states for Katrina.

I know anonymous sources are taken with a grain of salt, but a figure in the thousands is far more credible than the 59 dead they currently quoting.
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