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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:00 PM
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Decadence Day Parade in the French Quarter today! (with pictures)
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 01:01 PM by Rowdyboy
I love the crazy folk who inhabit the Quarter!

Down and out? Hell, lets put on our tutu's and party!

:party: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA090505.24A.katrina_french.89fd85d.html
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:21 PM
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1. Has a double-meaning this year
Humankind always amazes me in its diversity. I will always treasure NO for its legacy of tolerance, diversity and creativity that makes it unique. Strangely, this kind of thing re-assures me that she's going to bounce back.

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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:26 PM
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2. I was relieved to see someone I know
But still haven't gotten in touch with.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:32 PM
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4. Thats fabulous! What a wonderful feeling it must be....
Congratulations on the luck!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:26 PM
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3. Pefect!
This is wonderful. Gotta love the Big Easy.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:37 PM
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5. Im going to say it..
I think it is interesting that a bunch of white folk got together and did that.

Im white. I think it's tacky. I think it is just as tacky as the pResident talking about how he used to go get drunk in NOLA.

I think we are a nation of incredibly tacky people.

Now that being said. Im sure that the thought behind it was nothing but good...
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:49 PM
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6. I'm not so sure about the timing either.
On one hand, it flies in the face of the idiot so-called religious figures who tried to blame the whole fucking hurricane on gay people. It's wonderfully defiant in that regard.

And yet a human tragedy of mind-boggling proportions that did not have to reach such epic proportions, is still taking place not too far away.

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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:51 PM
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7. You'd never know it from the San Antonio article, but...
... the whole Southern Decadence day thing is a creation of the GLBT community. These are folks who know what it's like to be outside of -- and the target of -- the political power structure. It's entirley possible to be white and oppressed in this country.

Southern Decadence would normally have filled the streets of the French Quarter this Labor Day weekend. The biggest LGBT event in the South it normally attracts thousands of people from across the country and pumps millions of dollars into the local economy. Last year more than 110, 000 attended the event.

This would have been the festival's 33rd year.


http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/09/090505nola.htm
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:52 PM
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9. I don't see how anyone can revel in anything in that city
with the scale of human suffering and anguish going on. It was an ill-advised, tacky thing to do and diminishes the catastrophe's impact on tens upon thousands of residents displaced by the storm. How did they even get a permit to have this display of insensitivity?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:55 PM
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11. yeah, that was my reaction too.
i guess i can see the 'spirit' in it, but considering that there are still dead bodies in other parts of town, possibly people still trapped, i don't see anything much to smile about.

folks did the same at the height of the plague in europe. i don't want to judge anyone here, i can't even imagine what they're going through.
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:34 PM
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71. Damn, you nay sayers just don't know nothin bout N'awlins.
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 03:39 PM by ToolTex
They celebrate the release from life. Give a girl a pair of cutoffs and a boa and he may save a city. Just hoping they have adequate drinking water, (and of course, skin care products).

(And I can't imagine anyone but a rethug even thinking about a parade permit).
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:03 PM
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15. I must have missed the part of the story that mentioned that
all the participants were white.

Funny how people see race in everything. What do they call that?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:06 PM
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52. um, photographs?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:35 PM
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72. I counted about three black people in the photos
So I assume there is more
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:46 PM
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79. Psst...there were non-whites in the photographs.....
And since when are three photographs taken by the MSM representative of an event????
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:13 PM
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85. I need a much better monitor then because I see 2 possibly non white folks
Im not saying this has to be about race.. but we white people often wonder why race comes up.. well, maybe because we do stupid tacky things.


A jazz funeral is a whole lot different then thousands dying.
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:51 PM
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8. Yay!
I'm amazed at their resilience and applaud them for it! :-)
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:54 PM
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10. Hmm...
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 01:56 PM by Sgent
I saw at leat 2 black folk.

Of course a lot of gay folk.

IMHO, this could possibly be one of the most uplifting stories I've seen. No matter what mother nature throws at us, no matter what the catastrophe...

I decline to accept the end of man. It is easy enough to say that man is immortal because he will endure: that when the last ding-dong of doom has clanged and faded from the last worthless rock hanging tideless in the last red and dying evening, that even then there will still be one more sound: that of his puny inexhaustible voice, still talking. I refuse to accept this. I believe that man will not merely endure: he will prevail. -- William Faulkner, Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:55 PM
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:05 PM
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18. Too fuckin bad you don't get it. Too fuckin bad. NOLA is my town
and my people.

Why you want them to wallow in darkness. Don't they deserve a laugh or must they satisfy how you morn?

I love NOLA.
I love the people.
They will recover and their spirit is the reason why.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:24 PM
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26. I agree with you, I've cried, been horrified, felt so helpless, every
bad thing you can imagine someone who's far away and can't grab people off their houses and save them would feel. Then I had the first real laugh in a long time when I saw these guys on WDSU yesterday, they told me (and I hope everyone from all areas affected) not to give up, the city was down but not out. They might not even know about all the horrifying stuff going on in other areas. I don't know, they just showed what I imagine New Orleans to be about, zwa da vee (hooked on Frenchonics worked for me).
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:29 PM
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28. WOOHOO!!! Yeah you rite!!!
I probably know some of the folks there celebrating! ;)

Poor, street musicians, artists, etc. (like me).. naturally N'awlins! :D
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:33 PM
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33. But Swampie....
one poster seems to believe that artisan=rich? :eyes:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:01 PM
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46. He's apologised and I want to let it go.. we are all under a lot of stress
How is your family? Did you locate everyone yet? :hug:

I finally found a cheap apartment and payed the deposit last night (with borrowed money). When I went there this morning, the lady had given the apartment to someone else, lease and all! What a humanitarian! :grr:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:05 PM
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49. SWAMP, I'm moving back to NOLA after things get straightened out.
You live in the Marigny/Bywater area...or over by Carrollton?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:30 PM
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65. Me too! I'm gonna help rebuild my beautiful city!
I live by Carrollton Ave., Uptown ... about 10 blocks from Cooter Brown's. :beer: ;)
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:06 PM
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20. I think the parade is something that's been done for a long time.
And no, "these people" don't represent what the gay community is all about.

Use a little common sense.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:11 PM
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22. Sounds like you know where to find Exodus all by yourself
How utterly insensitive.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:20 PM
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24. At least I'm out there working FOR the LGBT community ...
... and not being an apologist for the lowest-common-denominator type of behavior and attitudes that bring the community down.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:46 PM
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38. How about a look at your resume now, since you've raised the issue?
Because frankly I can't imagine how someone who can't distinguish an act of defiance from a good-time celebration is doing much of value.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:48 PM
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39. And frankly I can't imagine ...
... how anyone who would support throwing a party amid the devastation would be anyone I'd have anything to say to that wouldn't get the post pulled.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:08 PM
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55. Let's try this again: It's not simply "a party."
How hard is that to understand?

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:29 PM
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29. And if you can group all of us...
...into what you think is tacky....here ya go... http://www.exodus-international.org/ Enjoy the repression you expect others to feel!
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:32 PM
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32. No one said anything about expecting others to feel 'repression'
... but it would be nice if some of you would feel a bit of compassion.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:35 PM
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34. Now THERE is a jump!
Because we don't 'march' to your opinions, we are now without compassion. :eyes: I see this a testament to this great city! Nothing, not even nature herself, will squash the heart of NOLA!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:50 PM
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41. You should be ashamed of yourself
Your post belongs on Free Republic, not here.

Whatever you think of 'Southern Decadence', it represents gay people as a whole about as much as Mardi Gras represents all straight people.

Your post reeks of ingrained homophobia. You have a lot of learning to do about the world.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:59 PM
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:04 PM
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48. No what it means is that
you don't understand that gays are as diverse as straights. Some will march in a parade like that, some won't. It has about as much bearing on all gays as does the moon.

If you wouldn't march in such a parade, great, more power to you. But to bemoan that "if these people represent what that gay community is all about then point to me Exodus" reeks of self hatred and an internalization of a Freeper mentality about the realities of human sexuality.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:14 PM
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56. Not 'self-hatred' ...
but the frustration that so many in the LGBT community are still stuck in that "party like it's still the '70s" mentality that events like Southern Decadence symbolize.

We can no longer afford to be stuck in the sort of perpetual adolescence to the point where everything becomes an excuse to throw a party. If we as a community ... a DIVERSE community ... expect to be taken seriously by the rest of the world, we need to grow up a bit.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:18 PM
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58. Maybe you're just unaware of what a lot of gay folks are actually doing
ever heard of the Rainbow World Fund? Think of a gay Red Cross. Right now, while you're worrying about a few Katrina survivors making themselves feel better, these folks are actively raising funds for Katrina hurricane relief.

Wanna donate?

http://www.rainbowworldfund.org/index.html
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:20 PM
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62. I've already donated ...
... and I've put a link for donations on every page of the web site of my LGBT Democratic Club.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:23 PM
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64. Well then you know
that people dancing in the street is not representative of anything. Because you're keenly aware that vast numbers of gays and lesbians have mobilized to help with relief efforts, either individually or institutionally.

So why are you worried about a hundred people making themselves feel better?
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:30 PM
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66. I'm all for people feeling better ...
... but do you really not see the potential backlash in this? Thousands are dead or stranded without food or water and a handful of people are going ahead with a celebration. I really believe it's a poor reflection on the GLBT community as a whole ... like we don't care about the rest of NO as long as we survived.

Yes, I realize there is a NO spirit and I'm all for the idea of celebrating the fact that the French Quarter survived with little damage. Maybe I'm too hung up with the idea of how it appears to others ... but I think it sends the wrong sort of message about what is important to us.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:33 PM
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69. If the media picks up on this and represents it as
THE "gay response" to Katrina, then yes, I would agree we have something to worry about public relations wise.

But even the media knows that this is not the "gay response" to Katrina, so I doubt it would be reported with that slant (except by NewsMax and WorldNetDaily or possibly Drudge).
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:34 PM
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70. And therein lies the problem...
Instead of worrying about how others (the Reich wing) will react, why not worry about how your gay and lesbian brothers and sisters are feeling?! They are celebrating their survival and their city! Fuck the right-wing!
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:40 PM
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76. It's not just the reich wing ...
... they are a 'lost cause' when it comes to any gay issues.

I don't want to risk alienating those who are in the middle.

Hell, I'm all for pride festivals, etc., and support the right of participants to come in drag, leather outfits, t-shirts with all sorts of statements on them. I figure it's our party.

Maybe it's different because it's NO and as several have pointed out, it's part of the NO spirit. But would I want to go ahead with a pride festival if, for example, my city was hit by a huge disaster the week before the festival? No, not at all.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #76
80. It's not just ANY city, it is NEW ORLEANS!
If this had happened around Mardi Gras, I'd bet my gay ass that there would have been the SAME response! It is a testament to the majesty of the city and her citizens!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:38 PM
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75. So many in the LGBT community are still stuck in a party mentality?
What on earth do you mean? And what do you care what a FEW among us do to express themselves? I don't understand your outrage one bit.

If you have such a problem with them... don't identify with them... I really don't get this.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:56 PM
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43. The attitdue is "Chin Up" and it's a time tested method to deal with
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 02:57 PM by HEyHEY
Disaster...
All over the world, in war zones, hunger ravaged areas, and now in NO people continue with their lives in this manner.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #43
50. It brings to mind how people coped with being in German concentration
camps. I'm not equivocating, but it is, I believe, the same type of coping skill.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:06 PM
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51. And in London during the blitz
"Business as usual"
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:03 PM
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47. See ya! Enjoy your "Exodus International!"
:hi:
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:07 PM
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53. Given the responses from some of my LGBT brothers and sisters ...
... the reception at Exodus would likely be friendlier.

Enjoy your party! Perhaps the next time we have a tornado or flood or other natural disaster you can come up and make us feel good with little frilly party favors, too.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:21 PM
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:42 PM
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77. LOL! I guess being gay was a choice for you then?
:rofl:

They are gonna LOVE you there... perhaps they will pair you up with a right-wing fundie anti-choice ex-lesbian. That would be much better than living and letting live a few homosexuals in NO.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:43 PM
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78. No, being gay wasn't a choice for me.
Is showing your ignorance a choice for you? :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:20 PM
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #12
68. Why? Even Peter Parker decided to go party there
Although he's not gay, his costume makes him fit in quite nicely:

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:56 PM
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13. People who don't understand this
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 01:57 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
don't understand the people of New Orleans. They're defying disaster and telling us the spirit of New Orleans has survived.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:01 PM
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14. Agreed. Anyone who sees this as nothing more than a party...
... is just dumb as a block of wood. :dunce:
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:04 PM
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17. And anyone who thinks a 'party' is an appropriate response
to the situation in NO would come in second to a block of wood in an IQ test.

It's tacky and an embarassment to the gay community ... at least those of us with at least a modicum of compassion.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:06 PM
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19. Never go to a Jazz Funeral then....
you won't "get that" either.
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:10 PM
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21. I agree
oh, lord, the fundies are gonna have a field day w/this one
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:15 PM
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23. Oooh! Ooooh! The fundies will be upset!
We can't have that. We mustn't say/do anything that would bring about their disapproval.
:sarcasm:

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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:24 PM
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25. fuck the fundies
who gives a shit what they say, anyhow.

this is a prime example of the good of new orleans.

they WILL NOT BE BEATEN!

and for those of you saying "well what about the dead and dying, just blocks away?"

well, what about the hundreds of thousands of dead iraqis, at our hand?

is proximity a guideline as to our compassion/concern/shame/guilt?

to beat adversity you have to laugh at it.

this just shows that new orleans WILL come back.

:thumbsup: to the revelers.

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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:50 PM
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81. I know, I'm not defending the fundies
I just know they will use it to their advantage.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:24 PM
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27. Are you down there?
Would you rather the people of NO shut themselves up and not move on with their lives?

Big props to the french quarter. Life goes on, and its the first real sign that NO WILL rebuild and will become a great city once again.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:40 PM
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36. It's not merely a party. Try to understand that.
:dunce:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:41 PM
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37. cultural responses vary to funerals
some view it as a celebration of life - and party accordingly.

That is how I view this. More than a week of hell on earth - with a whole lot of pain in the future... why not take a moment to shake off the pain - and celebrate survival, each other, and the moment?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:08 PM
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54. I'm sorry you disapprove....You seem to begrudge them a 10 minute break
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 03:08 PM by Rowdyboy
from the horror story they've been living for the last week. They can pretend to forget it all happened for just a few moments, defy the storm's ability to defeat them and offer at least a glimmer of hope for a day when New Orleans will return.

Certainly, many in the gay community have had great distain for Southern Decadence Days for years. Thats certainly their (and your) right. But the few times my partner and I have been were wonderful experiences that I'll never forget (and we're middle-aged Episcopalians). At least I have pictures.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:16 PM
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57. Good response!
I have been to SD as well and have pics....but can't share them here. :evilgrin:

Just goes to show that this city will once again rise, not because of any federal help, should it ever really arrive, but because of her people!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:20 PM
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61. I actually have (some few) pictures I could show if my scanner was
hooked up. I got maybe 15 beautifully decked drag queens who posed for me individually just because I told them they were beautiful!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:30 PM
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30. agreed
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:04 PM
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16. Decadence is way better than mardi gras.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:32 PM
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31. Never been to Mardi Gras
But been to SD twice! Fun times!!! I see this little parade as a ray of hope about the recovery of a magnificent city!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:33 PM
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67. You "get it."
;) You are welcome in my city any time... Come for Mardi Gras too, but I recommend you go to Frenchmen St. (where I regularly play) for a more low-key, local flavor. ;)
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:37 PM
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74. I do get it!
I have seen the spirit of that city! From the first step I placed on her ground, I was in love! Warts and all! I was so comfortable there, that other visitors to the city stopped me for directions, because they thought I was a local. They said I looked like I belonged there! Since that day, I have been trying to get a job there. But, I will be back, just like NOLA!
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:39 PM
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35. A big F-U to Katrina
I love it!

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:49 PM
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40. I guess if Katrina was judgement on New Orleans
for all its deviated preverts, it didn't do a very good job.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:53 PM
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42. Good for them! N'awlins is not just a place - it's a state of mind! n/t
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:01 PM
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45. They're the ones that live there - who are we to judge?
Personally, I'd rather dance in the face of destruction than wallow in it's misery - it does a spirit good.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:19 PM
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59. This is an valid rebuttal to the CristoWackos.
The CristoWackos are saying that New Orleans was destroyed because of the immorality and homosexuality, like Soddom and Gamorrah.

If this is true, why was the ONLY area spared by GAWD the area where the gays live?

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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:36 PM
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73. I don't know...
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 03:37 PM by incapsulated
I don't think these people in the French Quarter were at the Convention Center or the Dome. They are in one of the driest parts of the city. I can't imagine that what Katrina was like for them begins to compare with people mourning the death of a child that died in their arms from heat and lack of water in the Center while surrounded by filth and dead bodies. This is a little more than "Down and out" or just surviving a storm. There are probably tens of thousands dead. This is very different to my mind than a "jazz funeral" for a single person, which is a choice of the family of the person who died.

After living through 9/11, which is a blip compared to this, I couldn't begin to even think of "symbolic" acts of "defiance", especially a crazy party-type of event, while they were still collecting bodies or rescuing people clinging to life.

But that's me. People disagree.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:59 PM
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82. Tacky.
As it so happens, though, I LIKE "tacky." It's a celebration -- not of death, but of life and rebirth. And a big FU to Katrina.

I'd rather laugh with the sinners
Than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun...

(Billy Joel)

Gotta go start making plans for next year's Mardi Gras. Because now, more then ever, I'm convinced there'll be one. Scaled back a bit, perhaps, but there will be one. God Bless the people of New Orleans (a city that, if it never existed in the first place, we'd have to invent). :thumbsup:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:32 PM
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84. If we had tried to invent it, we'd have fallen far short....
I don't think you can dream up that kind of magic....

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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:31 PM
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83. I've thought a lot about this since I first saw a story
on it yesterday. At first, even though I grew up in and around New Orleans, and for some years was a merchant and musician in the Quarter, I was taken aback.

I was and am also concerned about the fact that there is no way for these people to continue to get food, drinkable water, there is no sewage, etc.

I've come to the following conclusion.

I'm not in any position to point fingers. Though I've been heartbroken the last few days, and though I'm searching for someone who may very well be dead after the storm, there have been times in the last week that I have laughed. Made jokes. Felt happy. Lots of that time has been full of sorrow and fear, but the other side comes through, even in the direst of circumstances.

I think these people are all adults, and are responsible for their own lives. I understand that to many, if not all of them, the Southern Decadance weekend is far more than an excuse to party. I can understand how they might have felt that no matter what, they should have done this, to show that their pride will not be stopped by anything.

It would be important to remember that these people have probably also lost loved ones, or don't know where their loved ones are. They could be hurting inside. I can't look at three pictures and judge them or know their motivations.

I hope that they will all do what they need to to ensure that they survive the weeks to come, if that means evacuating, or whatever they must do.

I would like to suggest that volunteering an hour or so of computer time to the Katrina Help Project would be a good way to help people affected by Katrina, both in New Orleans and elsewhere.

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