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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:31 PM Original message |
I'm rethinking how I feel about Blanco and Nagin |
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MadeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Perhaps but who is Paul Reynolds? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. AFEAM soesn't conduct Searh & Rescue--the NG & Mil were needed stat. |
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Blue Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:37 PM Original message |
Why didn't they use the buses to get people out? |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. Where would they go? The buses barely had time to get them to dome |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. Probably a failure of creative thinking |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Was school even in session yet in New Orleans? |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. at best ... 5 K out of 100K+... no big difference ... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. See post 9 last paragraph. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. explain to me where the Mayor of NO would have sent those buses to? |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. True - it would have required tremendous pre-planning |
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nyhuskyfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
17. Before the Hurricane? |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
52. Who would have driven them? |
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Be Brave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. There IS plenty of blame to go around for things done or not done |
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Qibing Zero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yes, this is the conclusion I came to as well. nt |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. FEMA officially took control August 26th - go to white house web site |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Like I said, it doesn't mitigate Bush's culpability one iota |
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nyhuskyfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. They still needed somewhere to go... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Under the Homeland Securirty Act of 2002, any responsibility held by |
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julialnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. I'm trying to find it and can't |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. Here it is, it was posted on the 27th, but was in act on the 26th |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. I dont even think this part is questionable at all |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. wow, you're easy. i have a piece of property in florida you might be |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. Check this out about evacuation |
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MadeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. See this tells it all. The feds are in charge of funding their plan. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
14. The blame lie entirely with the Bush Administration |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Blanco and Nagin failed in many areas, it is undeniable |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Where did they fail? |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Biggest failure of Nagin and Blanco |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. That was FEMA's job |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. There can't BE an adequate plan at the local and state level! |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. Where is the National Response Plan? (Link?)nt |
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Don Claybrook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. After the immediate crisis is over |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Rummie needs to relinquish control too |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. Having watched the local news streaming during all this, I saw |
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remfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. Not the point right now - Rove mounting PR campaign |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. But this provides the perfect response to those who would place that blame |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. good one--they have to back up the gd Patriot Act! |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
42. Yep, and certain Duers are more then willing |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. Paul Reynolds is good, but still |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
25. But the locals and state officials were at least trying. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Admittedly they were, and under the Homeland Security Act of 2002 |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
29. It leaves a LOT out! |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Absolutely agreed. DHS was given full responsibility by Act of Congress |
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librarycard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Correct, and Cheney supposedly falls under that jurisdiction |
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librarycard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
31. I wholly blame the Feds |
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bribri16 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
34. The part of the plan that Blanco and Nagin had went off smoothly |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Didn't Blanco ask Bush for $5M for the evacuation ahead of time |
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MadeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Yeah that was the real problem.....No funding/direction from FEMA... |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
35. Ultimate blame rests at the federal level because they denied |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Primary responsibility rests at the federal level UNDER THE LAW! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. This is pretty much what the former head of FEMA - J Witt just said. |
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magnolia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
44. Whatever Nagin and Blanco did... |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Keep in mind that most of the people left in NO |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
45. the single cause of NO which is most pertinent |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
47. Anyone can point fingers of blame ALL day.......... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. I agree to an extent, but once the hurricane DID hit Bush could have |
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OctOct1 (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
51. Could you please look at what was done for Florida 2004 |
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Karmakaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-05 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
57. They made mistakes - UNAVOIDABLE mistakes.. |
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