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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:36 AM
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Refugees from New Orleans behind barbed wire in Utah

http://www.unknownnews.org/0509090906CampWilliams.html


Utah's Governor Jon Huntsman has taken in some of the New Orleans refugees, at Camp Williams. Replete with barbed wire, armed soldiers with weapons at ready, police and sheriff with weapons at ready, and hell, they must surely feel right at home. In America yet. What bullshit! I'm not done with this outrage, not by a long shot. I'm actually just getting started.

Unknown News needs to come up with some Press Credentials. I want access to Camp Williams and were I "media," they'd have to let me in and allow me to talk with the refugees? Wouldn't they?

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The Hurricane Katrina insurgency from New Orleans is tucked safely away behind the 6-foot chain link fence with the accommodating barb wire atop chain links. The ONLY entry into Detention Camp Utah is through the highly secure military gates that are guarded by armed military guards twenty four seven.

The ONLY access to the New Orleans insurgency is granted to military, government officials, and MAINSTREAM media.

The armed military guards at the military gates will not take nor answer any questions regarding the New Orleans insurgency. The guards will however instruct one dissident radical pseudo-media personality to turn the car around and get gone post haste. Only officially cleared personnel can access the New Orleans insurgency.


Detention Camp Utah is located about 20 miles from downtown civilization. There is no transportation, public or otherwise, for the New Orleans insurgency. Supposedly, it has been reported by one local media concern that there will be twice-daily bus service available to "cleared" insurgents.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:38 AM
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1. And this isn't MI/LIHIP!!!!!


Get my people out of the Concentration Camp in Utah!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:38 AM
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2. I fear this could be the case wherever people are housed on military soil
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:40 AM
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3. I like to call them FEMA camps
and they are all over the US.........
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:42 AM
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6. REX 84
:-(
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:40 AM
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4. WHAT? This had better be bullshit.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:41 AM
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5. There was a similar thread this morning. The story ended up being...
bogus. Sorry, I don't have a link to that thread.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:42 AM
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7. St Louis is housing them in a former prison
I'll see if I can find a local news story.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:47 AM
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8. "Storm Refugees Housed at Old Jail"
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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:49 AM
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9. Refugees In San Francisco
Local news here in the S.F. had a report last night that refugees from N.O. are going to be housed in the Hunters Point District. Hunters Point is a closed military facility surrounded by housing projects which are considered to be the most dangerous neighborhoods in the City.
It has been classified as a war zone, with numerous gangs and their Faustian drug trade. Drive by shootings are as common as crack pipes being lit!
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lalajohns Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:54 PM
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25. Info on San Fran evacuees
San Francisco will welcome the evacuees with open arms.

St. Mary's Catherdal on Gough Street will be one of the main places for these people.

www.san francisco chronicle.com
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:52 AM
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10. Where are the fucking Dems?????
Don't they pay attention to what is going on?
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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:30 PM
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19. Durrrr uhhhh.... well you see being negative never solved anything....
after everyone is safe and after Bush's term has expired we'll offer our opinion. (Pauses for "I agree" posts) :sarcasm:
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:53 AM
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11. Wish they would stop calling them refugees! They're not foreigners!
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 11:54 AM by demo dutch
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:09 PM
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12. Why don't they just name it "Camp Freedom"?
:sarcasm:
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:22 PM
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13. DU List of Relocation sites -- please add yours
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4657680&mesg_id=4657680

BTW - the link this AM was to this same blogger and was self-deleted as unrealiable but I have no information one way or the other. I think he was refering to UNG Camp William in Bluffdale.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:37 PM
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21. Thanks! I added my area, Raleigh, NC. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:23 PM
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14. WHAT THE HECK?!
How are they able to get away with treating our fellow citizen's like this?! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:26 PM
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15. If they were housed on Ft Bragg, the result would be the same.
Barbed wire. Military people with rifles.

Camp Williams is an operational facility that trains NG soldiers:

"Training facilities include small arms weapons firing ranges, artillery firing points and maneuver areas. There are also many types of training available in the surrounding areas. This includes specialized winter, desert, mountain, and amphibious training. Most of this training can be conducted within a 50-mile radius."

And as such, it has certain security measures, including fences, people with weapons, AND strict access policies.

Sheesh.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:27 PM
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16. In Lubbock they're being housed at Reese AFB...
...behind barbed wire and an armed gate. No entry without proper credentials. I'm not sure what the rules are regarding exit.

Red Cross people and local volunteers are permitted to enter to help with their needs.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:28 PM
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18. See #15.
Military facilities have strict access policies.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:28 PM
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17. It wouldn't be the first time
Tule Lake is re-opened for business! :grr:
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:33 PM
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20. Please stop using the term, "refugees"
We've seen martial law enacted, criminal negligence in rescuing Americans causing THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS TO DIE, and now these internement camps.

What will be next? :scared:
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:42 PM
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22. Internment camps?
You don't expect military bases to have barbed wire and strict access control???
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:44 PM
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23. WTF?
These people are not criminals, they are victims of our callous, uncaring, incompetent fucking Government - why are they being treated like criminals? And the god damn idiot fucking press can't understand the charges of racism? The people that should be getting interred in these camps are the fucking Bush Administration, and the balless Democrats who go along with the program - god damn I'm mad!!!!!!!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:01 PM
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27. I'm as mad as HELL too!
And we are FREE in the USA???!!! These people aren't allowed out if they want to leave?! This is an OUTRAGE!

:grr: :grr: :grr:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:51 PM
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24. They are survivors or evacuees!!!!!!!!!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:58 PM
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26. What's with this "Insurgency" bullshit?
Are these the alleged "looters" and what-have-yous that they arrested in NOLA?

If *I* was not accused of a crime, and *I* was being held behind armed guards and barbwire, I don't think I'd be too terribly happy...
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:33 PM
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28. It's Repuke bullshit -
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 01:34 PM by libhill
trying to cover their sorry incompetent lieing fucking asses, by spinning the disaster to look like an "insurgency" - not gonna wash, ass hats - the country, the world, saw you mudder fukkers leave these people to die - spin it any way you want, no one is buying your fucking bull shit any more. You assholes are FINISHED!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:52 PM
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29. Lock
Please check this locked thread for information
This has been "debunked"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x153901
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