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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:57 AM
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haunt them with jazz
and zydeco, blues, and a jazz funeral procession whenever possible. this idea was suggested a few days ago, but things were so busy around here, i don't know how many people saw it. i think this is a fabulous idea.
i am not that much of a music person, although living in chicago, i couldn't hide from jazz if i tried. but i mostly listen to it on the radio, or at the festivals, and don't own that much music. but i went to a used cd place yesterday and scooped up a few discs. part of how i am going to heal from this myself is to collect up the music that these bastards tried to flush, and play it loud as i drive my truck, which is covered with giant bumperstickers, like- impeach now, etc. it feels so good. i drove out to the burbs to the cindy rally yesterday, and it really raised my spirits.
do you have a favorite artist/recording that reminds you of nola?
and forgive my ignorance, but are there songs that are traditional to play at a jazz funeral? anything available on cd that would evoke that?
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:01 AM
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1. Crescent City Soul cd
It's a cd compiled from the box set of the same name. I've been playing it non-stop at home.

I don't know how appropriate it would be for a jazz funeral, but it keeps my feet moving.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:38 AM
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4. will look for the box
thanks
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:45 PM
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46. Volumes 1 *and* 2...I'm gonna be a wheel someday
I'm gonna be somebody.
I'm gonna be a real gone cat.
And then I won't want you.

You will cry, cry, cry.
You will sigh, sigh, sigh.
You will wonder why I don't look at you as I go walking by.


Ok, not the most sensative lyrics in the world. But its a great song on a fabulous record.

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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:46 PM
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47. Been doin' Dr. John myself
I find some comfort in his darker Night Tripper period stuff.

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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:53 AM
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52. That's one of my favorite tracks.
I wish we had the box set (thanks for the earworm), but this compilation does us fine.

So much good music.... The silence is deafening.

Evrythings gonna go my way
I won't need nobody
I'm gonna be a real gone cat
And I won't want you
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:35 AM
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50. put in an order
at amazon for the box set, if they can find it.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:34 AM
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2. What a great idea--I'd love to do a jazz club thing here...
I was thinking of this this morning--as a tribute to NOLA and the wonderful musicians to come from that area...

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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:39 AM
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5. i hope we do something big here in chicago
i have no doubt whatsoever that someone is cooking something up right now.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:49 AM
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6. That would be cool!
I lived there for a year and a half. I recall how the city loved it's jazz and blues--big time!

I'm sure they will have quite an event of it!

:hi:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:51 AM
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8. we have so much heritage in common with nola
so, so, so many great talents with connections to both cities. it'll be something else.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:49 AM
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7. That would be cool!
I lived there for a year and a half. I recall how the city loved it's jazz and blues--big time!

I'm sure they will have quite an event of it!

:hi:
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:36 AM
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3. I need to find the CD I bought of a local NO musician I heard.
He was absolutely awesome - sax and piano.

I can't remember his name right now, but I saw him in a bar in NO - I'll never forget his face.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:02 PM
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9. oops, this thread was duped
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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:03 PM
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10. Brass bands are a must!
Pick up some New Orleans brass bands, probably the most quintessential New Orleans bands that are out there. When you hear a sousaphone bass line followed by funky second line drumming, it's unmistakeable where the soul is coming from: New Orleans! Some of my favorites are:

Rebirth Brass Band http://www.rebirthbrassband.com
Dirty Dozen Brass Band http://www.dirtydozenbrassband.com
Newbirth Brass Band http://www.newbirthbrass.com
Kermit Ruffins http://www.basinstreetrecords.com/
Hot Eight http://www.tipsevents.com/foundation/coop/hot8/index.htm
and many others...

As for funeral songs, check out "St. James Infirmary". James Booker does a great version of it and pretty much any band from New Orleans plays it. Here are the first 2 verses:

I went down to St. James Infirmary,
Saw my baby there.
She was stretched out on a long white table, so sweet, so cold, so bare.

Let her go, let her go, God bless her.
Wherever she may be,
She can search this whole wide world over,
She ain't never gonna find another man like me.



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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:11 PM
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11. i love that song
james taylor did it back, back in the day.
i have a kid that plays the coronet, and one that play clarinet. i am thinking i am gonna make them learn a couple of appropriate songs. that would be a great one to start with.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:17 PM
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12. I went to a jazz funeral once
The band played a jazzed-up version of "Just a Closer Walk with Thee" a Xian hymn. They also played "When the Saints go Marching In" and another song that I don't remember.
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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:21 PM
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13. Down by the Riverside
Down by the Riverside is another played often
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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:04 PM
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14. Also check out "Do You Know What it Means to Miss New Orleans"
Exceptionally appropriate song now. Many musicians do a great version of it. Pete Fountain's is my favorite I think, by a small margin...
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:11 PM
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15. Start with Mack Rebennack (AKA Dr John)
"Dr John's Gumbo" & "Goin' Back to New Orleans" are specific tributes to the music of his city--& excellent albums.

But, as far as haunting goes, his "Gris Gris" will get the job done right.



www.drjohn.org/
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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:14 PM
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16. Yes, Dr John is terrific
I listen to his music probably more than any other.

There is a great (and heartbreaking) post about the future of New Orleans music on Radio New Orleans' blog:

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/09/report_from_wwo.html

Here's an exerpt:
"...the "roots culture" of New Orleans is itself greatly imperiled. We don't yet know their names, but there can be no doubt that there are musicians who have perished in this disaster. Carlos Lando tells me that Charmaine Neville is missing at this point, for example. Most will survive, but then they won't be able to come back into the city for perhaps up to a year. If they all stayed in one place in exile, they could come back as a group.

Perhaps Baton Rouge will be the new cultural center of levity. If they can find housing! The population of Baton Rouge has already doubled overnight and the situation promises to get much tighter. So, some percentage of New Orleans' musicians will be scattered around the country and will end up rooting somewhere else -- perhaps with family and certainly with jobs in or out of the music business. Whoever is left and returns to New Orleans will be coming back to a vastly different place.

A few clubs such as Tips and House of Blues will re-emerge. But the funky holes in the wall will not. Can Antoinette K-Doe possibly resurrect the Mother-in-Law Lounge? It was under 10 feet of water, from what I saw on CNN. New neighborhood clubs could emerge, but only if they have the critical mass to support them. That will probably happen, but my guess is that it will be a very slow process and will not reach the previous scope for many years to come, if ever. As you saw on TV, the underclass is coming out of the woodworks---that same underclass in which much of our roots music is rooted.

I have to wonder if those people being shipped to the Astrodome will ever make it back to New Orleans. And with the complete evacuation of New Orleans now on order, I have to believe only a small fraction of those folks will return as well. In 4 to12 months from now, or whenever it is that people can return, housing will be at a premium."
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:41 PM
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21. wait wait wait, Charmaine Neville!
She's the one that was talking to the priest about getting out of the city... I am not familiar with New Orleans music...

I think she is ok cause there has been a video of her circulating DU.....
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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:45 PM
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22. yes Charmaine is safe now
I heard an interview of hers and from hearing that I would stop short of calling her OK :(

Such a tragedy but Charmaine has a GREAT family and will recover from this. I really feel for all the local musicians who don't have a family like hers and will suffer tremendously from a loss of gigs and loss of community.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:46 PM
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23. Charmaine video link
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:46 PM
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57. one of those cases where
one person's diary can tell the whole story, in a way.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:36 AM
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51. night tripper is frrom my day
i might have it around here. i will dig. it might not play anymore, but...
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Francine Frensky Donating Member (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:15 PM
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17. Preservation Hall Jazz Band -- "Precious Lord"
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 01:21 PM by Francine Frensky
If you listen to it while watching scenes from disaster, it will send chills up your spine.

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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:24 PM
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19. that's a great one, listening to it now
I'd like to do a video montage with this song as backdrop to scenes of devastation mixed in with pics of shrub on vacation yucking it up with the good ole boys
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:18 PM
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18. Don't know funeral jazz
but check out Nina Simone. Her stuff might be soothing enough for a funeral, or if not, at least it's great music!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:28 PM
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20. I love this idea!
I am not a musician, but I love my Dixieland Jazz. I was never able to get into modern jazz as I do Dixieland. I guess it's just whatever touches your soul.

These unimaginable bastards aren't smart enough to understand the power that is about to be unleashed upon them. I'm certain that at first the will chuckle when they here Dixieland music. That will change.

Let the haunting begin.

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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:55 PM
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24. I hope someone will setup a NOLA musicians tour
There are many musicians in New Orleans that don't tour and rely on local gigs for their livelihood. It would be great if there was some sort of benefit tour setup so these musicians could earn a paycheck, stay connected to their community, and raise some funds at the same time.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:58 PM
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25. great, great idea
i have a friend that is pretty connected to the old guys in chicago. i will talk to him later today, i think, and see if there is anything in the works.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 02:00 PM
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26. thanks to all that suggested good songs
there is a music store around the corner from my studio. i will stop in on my way in tonight.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 02:09 PM
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27. Dirty Dozen Brass Band
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:41 AM
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53. i'll have to do that. this is running into money, here
just ordered a few dirty dozen on amazon. got the "this is" box, and "funeral for a friend", which is exactly what i was looking for. amazing grace, all that stuff, but ddbb. i need bigger speakers on my truck.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 02:58 PM
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28. How about WWOZ, they're streaming again
from exile they say. http://www.wwoz.org/
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 03:13 PM
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29. "The Death of Jazz"
by Wynton Marsalis, from the CD "The Majesty of the Blues." It starts out as a slow dirge and then turns into a wild celebration, a la a NOLA jazz funeral. It's a great musical comment on the ongoing argument about whether "jazz is dead."

It ain't dead as long as its millions of fans and thousands of players are alive!!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:44 PM
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39. i saw that one at the record store.
i didn't have my glasses with me, so i wasn't buying too much. there were several wyntons. i didn't want to pick without looking closer. but i know they had a couple of copies of this one.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 03:15 PM
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30. A funeral jazz band needs to parade past the White House
At least once a day.

TlalocW
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 03:17 PM
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31. Marching in the Second Line should be some "Ain'ts"
with paper bags over their heads, wearing signs saying Bush, Cheney, Rice, Chertoff, Brown, et al.
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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 03:19 PM
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32. Parade a day
each one for a different person killed in the aftermath
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:27 PM
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33. i sure hope so.
there sure enough are plenty of great musicians with nowhere to go.
i wonder if someone is trying to round up instruments for those who lost theirs.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:45 AM
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54. That's a GREAT idea
Remember the jazz funeral for democracy?
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:32 PM
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34. "I'll Be Glad When You're Dead, You Rascal You"...
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 09:35 PM by misanthrope
...by New Orleans native son Louis Armstrong would be a great one with which to haunt Shrub.

The stereotype of the jazz funeral has "Just a Closer Walk With Thee" on the way to the cemetary and "When the Saints Go Marching In" on the way back.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:54 PM
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41. was there a louie jordan recording of that?
there's a blues show on wbez that plays that song sometimes. pretty sure it is jordan. i'm sure there are many versions, tho. it's a goodie.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:24 PM
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44. The only version...
...I've heard to date was the Armstrong rendition we had at a radio station where I worked, however I'm sure it's been covered by tons of folks.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:06 PM
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48. I guess you've heard
Louis Armstrong's various versions of this I assume. It is one of his greatest songs really! :D

no more chicken you shall eat ... lol! GREAT!!! :D

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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:36 PM
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35. Ironically Enough...
...an anime series called Cowboy Bebop got me interested in jazz. Yoko Kanno, the composer for the series, went to New Orleans when she was younger & used the music she heard as an influence for the series. I wish Kanno was better known in the US, because she is great. She does many different styles of music, not just jazz.

Tammy
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:40 PM
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37. hubby and the kids love cowboy bebop
big kid that he is, they watch adult swim together all the time.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:38 PM
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36. and Satch!
We cannot forget Louis Armstrong. I already haunt them for I have a large collection of his music.

Do You Know What it Means to Miss New Orleans ....

:cry:

:kick:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:42 PM
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38. album?
i picked up one satchmo, mr jazz. i am collecting quickly.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:20 PM
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43. no I have mostly CD and some tapes
but yeah, I'm a collector alright. I got on to Satch about 6 years ago. The man was a genius! Too bad no one seems to realize this *yet*. Growing up I always thought of him as being Mr. Hello Dolly - end of story. Some of his music recorded in the late 1920s and 1930s is awesome stuff! Satch was THE BEST of New Orleans, no doubt in my mind.

And oh I do miss it. :( This whole thing is making me very sick.

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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:38 PM
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45. What Mark Twain was...
...to American literature, Louis Armstrong was to American music. He changed our cultural soundtrack more than any other person in the history of the nation. Pops' Hot Fives and Hot Sevens completely altered our soundscape forever.

Music critic Gary Giddens called him "the American Bach."

How many other American musicians have an airport named for them?

More on Louis
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:17 AM
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49. sorry, they will always be albums and records to me.
i am too old to change. i just meant what is the title.
i love satch. you can't live in chicago, and not know about jazz. even if you don't try. i have osmosified a lot of jazz history.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:49 PM
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40. Albert Ayler!!! (with a word caution)
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 09:50 PM by toddaa
Albert Ayler, especially with his brother Donald, was once described a run away New Orleans Marching Band disaster. Ayler is definitely an acquired taste. His monstrous vibrato and completely unrestrained free improvs filled with blasts of pure emotion are certainly not the same as Miles Davis' Kind of Blue or Bill Evan's Sunday at the Vanguard. But what they are is pure spirituality that cuts across jazz from its very early days all the way up to the present.

A good introduction to his music are the Greenwich Village recordings on Impluse! A double disc dose of Ayler and company taking simple marching band music, folk songs, and spirituals as far out as they can go. His masterpiece is Spiritual Unity.

If nothing else, you'll scare the shit out of Republicans.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:56 PM
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42. well that would be the main point.
an art car and crazy music is a deadly combination, i hope.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:15 PM
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55. Great old song by Sticks McGee, Wine wine wine, it starts...
Down in New Orleans where everything's fine.

All them cats is drinking that wine.



Fantastic song, had loved to dance to it. Now I just get sad. :(
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:27 PM
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56. a couple of links
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