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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:20 PM
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anyone seen this? WHOIS search bushclintonkatrinafund.org
"Go to Network Solutions, www.networksolutions.com and look up www.bushclintonkatrinafund.org.

" ... type in the name of this website or domain, as if you wished to reserve or purchase it. You will receive the message that it has already been taken, of course ..."

"Now, scroll to the place where you can learn more information about the owner of this domain."

"You will learn in the WHOIS Record that bushclintonkatrinafund.org was registered by the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund, 55 W 125th Street, New York, NY 10027 US, and the record was created 02-Sep-2005, expiring on 02-Sep-2005.

"Now, scroll down further. Note the underlying registry data for this record. Here is what you will find:


IP Address: 198.65.50.185 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)

IP Location: US (UNITED STATES) - COLORADO-ENGLEWOOD

Y! Directory: See listings

Web Site Title: Welcome to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund Official Web Site

Data as of: 14-Jun-2005





is there any way these dates could make sense?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:22 PM
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1. woah ....n/t
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:23 PM
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2. Yeah, don't panic....
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 07:25 PM by Autumn Colors
Whoever owns it probably has an account with that domain registrar for multiple websites and that's when they last updated their account info.

The "Date Record Created: 02-Sep-2005" is the date THIS domain name was registered.

EDIT: Clinton's office is up on 125th St.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:25 PM
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4. how can we find that out?
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:26 PM
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8. I manage a couple of websites
and I have one account with the registrar with all the various domain names on it.

The only date that pertains to THAT domain name is the 02-Sep-2005 (registered on 9/2/05, expires on 9/2/06).
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:29 PM
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14. Of course you're right
But you'll not convince the gaggle of fools who will be citing this piece of information for the next twenty years as proof of an infernal weather machine...:eyes:
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:44 PM
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18. OK, let me explain it this way....
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 07:51 PM by Autumn Colors
I open an account at the local bank... in June 2005. I then open up a second account (Account B) on 02-Sep-2005.

Someone pulls up a screen on the bank computer about my Account B and it says "Account B opened on 02-Sep-2005" .... then down at the bottom it says something like "Customer since June 2005" or something along those lines. That's all that date at the bottom is.

I'm sure Clinton's got other websites for charities or organizations he runs. It's easier to just have an account with a domain registration service so you have a user name and password and can just login and manage all of your domains.

CORRECTION: Sorry, that date at the bottom is when they last updated their account info (address, tel no, address) which affects all of their accounts. The next time they change any info, that date will change.

Eek.... I just made it more confusing, didn't I? Trust me, it's all OK.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:54 PM
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22. I think you missed my point
Your first explanation should be sufficient. It was good.

Unfortunately, the tin-foilers don't desire explanations. They desire the parlor game of tin-foiling, and for them, reasonable explanations ruin the fun.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:36 PM
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25. Oh gawd, let this get buried again
I'm with ya. Every nutjob in the world will be all over this. :eyes:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:26 PM
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Thanks for explaining this
It is confusing.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:24 PM
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3. That's FKN creepy n/t
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:25 PM
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5. Stop creeping out .... it's fine... read my other response n/t
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:47 PM
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19. I'm glad to see you're okay.
How is everything?
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:34 AM
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23. Ok, I guess
Back in Missouri on the family plot. Gonna try to go to work tomorrow at my old job. Gotta go buy work stuff later but some local paper guy is coming out here in about 30 minutes to talk to me.

Physically I'm pretty good except for a wrenched back and some intestinal uproar. Mentally, I'm kind of shaky. Sort of waver between anger, sadness and depression and I wake up full of anxiety. Keep having storm dreams too. That didn't happen while I was still in Mississippi. Just since I've been back.

Thanks for asking.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:08 PM
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24. Well, we're here for you.
:hug:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:26 PM
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6. Save this info guys!!!!!! eom
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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:26 PM
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7. WTFover???
those dates make no sense at all. Maybe angels do play that HARRP.

~Celtic
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:27 PM
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10. Would you people stop freaking out already? n/t
There's absolutely NOTHING FISHY about this.... You're tinfoil hatting over NOTHING.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:28 PM
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12. Autumn colors explains it
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freemen2005 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:27 PM
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9. BS - real info here
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 07:28 PM by freemen2005
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=bushclintonkatrinafund.org
http://www.whois.org/whois.cgi2?d=bushclintonkatrinafund.org


Domain ID:D107362187-LROR
Domain Name:BUSHCLINTONKATRINAFUND.ORG
Created On:02-Sep-2005 18:55:18 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Sep-2005 03:48:02 UTC
Expiration Date:02-Sep-2006 18:55:18 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Network Solutions LLC (R63-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:39876854-NSI
Registrant Name:Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
Registrant Organization:Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
Registrant Street1:55 W125th St
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:New York
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:10027
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2123488882
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:no.valid.email@worldnic.com
Admin ID:39876854-NSI
Admin Name:Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
Admin Organization:Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
Admin Street1:55 W125th St
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:New York
Admin State/Province:NY
Admin Postal Code:10027
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2123488882
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:no.valid.email@worldnic.com
Tech ID:39876854-NSI
Tech Name:Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
Tech Organization:Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
Tech Street1:55 W125th St
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:New York
Tech State/Province:NY
Tech Postal Code:10027
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.2123488882
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:no.valid.email@worldnic.com
Name Server:NS1.SECURE.NET
Name Server:NS2.SECURE.NET
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:28 PM
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11. go to the IP


" Welcome grapeliving to Your New Virtual Private Server !

We would like to welcome you to your new Virtual Private Server. We are committed to bringing you the best service and finest Internet hosting solutions available. To help you get acquainted with your Virtual Private Server we have prepared "Getting Started" pages on our Web site. We encourage you to visit these pages and add them to your list of bookmarks.

Best wishes in using your new Virtual Private Server!
"

I don't know enough about registration, but perhaps this is a recycled virtual server?

Why is there nothing there? wouldn;t the Bush-Clinton fund already have a site up there?
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:39 PM
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16. The pages are in a subfolder...
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 07:40 PM by Autumn Colors
I went to the main page (not the actual IP #) http://www.bushclintonkatrinafund.org and then did right-click, then properties. They have it set up so that when a person types in "http://www.bushclintonkatrinafund.org" it actually points to THIS URL:

"http:// bushclintonkatrinafund.org/clientuploads/Bush-Clinton-Katrina-Fund-right.gif"
(spaces intentionally inserted with above URL because it was displaying a graphic file and not the text of the URL)

It looks like all the webfiles are in a subfolder called "clientuploads".

There's absolutely nothing to be alarmed about regarding any of this.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:28 PM
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13. Nice try nt
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:32 PM
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15. It's registered to Bill Clinton's office ... look
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:43 PM
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17. Tis Cool. The dom names I just reg'd say the same: "Data as of: 14-Jun-20
A couple of days ago I registered 4 new domain names, I just went and checked and they all say the same "Data as of" date as Bush Clinton Katrina Fund's info. I haven't checked my older ones to see if the same as well.

I'm not tech savy enough to know why but my guess is something to do with a database perhaps.
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:48 PM
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20. That bottom date may change
If you have one account to manage all the domain names, that date at the bottom may change if you update any info (your address, tel no, etc) that affects all of the accounts.

The date you registered each domain won't change, only the expiration date will if you renew for additional years.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:23 PM
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21. Hi Autumn..
Thanks :) ... yes, I have one account and I know the dates I registered them won't change until I renew them. Just recently I updated my older domain names to reflect a change of address and phone but it was done after the June "data" date. I'll have to check to see how that data date changes and if it's the same on all my domain names both before and after the move. It has me a bit curious now especially since it's the exact same as the Bush Clinton one. 8) I just figured it was the date when the internic data base was last updated.

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